Exar Kun II Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Though this does not concern Episode 1 or 2 directly, it's a question regarding the continuity of the films. I'm not nitpicking, I'm just curious. In Episode IV when we first meet Obi-Wan, he shows Luke the lightsaber that belonged to Anakin. The next time we see Obi-wan use the saber is in the Cantina at Mos Eisley. The last time we see Obi-Wan, is in his classic face-off with Vader/Anakin. Now, Obi-wan is clearly holding the saber when Darth, ironically, cuts him in half, the same way Obi-wan did Maul years before(yes, I know Obi-Wan didn't "die" in the normal sense but, he was gone, nonetheless). Obi-wan is clearly holding the lightsaber when this happens. Now, Luke does not recover the saber, and we do not see him with it for the rest of the film. There is no mention of it again. NOW. . . In Episode V, Luke has the lightsaber, and if you look at the base grip, it is the same as Anakin's. This leads me to ONE of 2 conclusions. 1. Obi-Wan let Luke keep Anakin's saber. I find this unlikely, because I cannot fathom Obi-Wan being as irresponsible as letting Luke, who didn't even really know what a Jedi was at the time, keep what was undoubtedly the most powerful handheld weapon in existence(the sentimentality of it being his father Anakin's nonwithstanding), as Luke would not have been able to wield it. I always thought that Obi-Wan, after showing Luke the saber and explaining who his father was, had taken the weapon back and that was the one we saw him use for the duration of the film. Perhaps the saber that we see Ben die with is his own, and Luke still had Anakin's. I say this because. . . 2. In Episode V, Luke has a lightsaber, and if you look at the grip, it look's like Anakin's, as I stated previously. Now, either Ben let him keep the weapon after their first meeting(again, which I find difficult to believe)or the more obvious answer is that Luke built his own from scratch. If this is the case, then how? Luke had not even begun his Jedi training(accept for his brief encounter with the seeker on the Millenium Falcon in Episode IV), so how would he have known how to construct a lightsaber? Did Obi-Wan's spirit guide him through the process? WHERE DID THE SABER COME FROM? If i'm thinking too much, just tell me to be quiet:D . Any answers are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Obi wan let him keep it. Remember that he told luke "your father wanted me to give you this" Then Luke uses that saber to practice deflecting lazer blasts with the helmet on. remember? then in ESB vader cuts his hand off and he drops the saber. In ROTJ he builds his own saber. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebelwerfer_ Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 motion mans' right, something else I found out (from the action figures) is that vaders light saber is very very similar to the one luke uses in ANH and ESB (yes I know that it used to be ankins') the bases are exactly the same except vaders is black. This totally gives it away that Anikin lost his lightsaber when ben kicked his arse and then ben took it and gave it to luke, and meanwhile vader made his own similar to his old one but made the blade red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Master Eric Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Actually Luke built his new lightsaber in between ESB and ROTJ, not during ROTJ. You can read how he did it in the book "Shadows Of The Empire" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaster21801 Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Originally posted by Exar Kun II Though this does not concern Episode 1 or 2 directly, it's a question regarding the continuity of the films. I'm not nitpicking, I'm just curious. In Episode IV when we first meet Obi-Wan, he shows Luke the lightsaber that belonged to Anakin. The next time we see Obi-wan use the saber is in the Cantina at Mos Eisley. The last time we see Obi-Wan, is in his classic face-off with Vader/Anakin. Now, Obi-wan is clearly holding the saber when Darth, ironically, cuts him in half, the same way Obi-wan did Maul years before(yes, I know Obi-Wan didn't "die" in the normal sense but, he was gone, nonetheless). Obi-wan is clearly holding the lightsaber when this happens. Now, Luke does not recover the saber, and we do not see him with it for the rest of the film. There is no mention of it again. NOW. . . In Episode V, Luke has the lightsaber, and if you look at the base grip, it is the same as Anakin's. This leads me to ONE of 2 conclusions. 1. Obi-Wan let Luke keep Anakin's saber. I find this unlikely, because I cannot fathom Obi-Wan being as irresponsible as letting Luke, who didn't even really know what a Jedi was at the time, keep what was undoubtedly the most powerful handheld weapon in existence(the sentimentality of it being his father Anakin's nonwithstanding), as Luke would not have been able to wield it. I always thought that Obi-Wan, after showing Luke the saber and explaining who his father was, had taken the weapon back and that was the one we saw him use for the duration of the film. Perhaps the saber that we see Ben die with is his own, and Luke still had Anakin's. I say this because. . . 2. In Episode V, Luke has a lightsaber, and if you look at the grip, it look's like Anakin's, as I stated previously. Now, either Ben let him keep the weapon after their first meeting(again, which I find difficult to believe)or the more obvious answer is that Luke built his own from scratch. If this is the case, then how? Luke had not even begun his Jedi training(accept for his brief encounter with the seeker on the Millenium Falcon in Episode IV), so how would he have known how to construct a lightsaber? Did Obi-Wan's spirit guide him through the process? WHERE DID THE SABER COME FROM? If i'm thinking too much, just tell me to be quiet:D . Any answers are welcome. Ok, I can't believe no one addressed this... Luke and Obi-Wan BOTH have sabers. Obi-Wan's OT saber is similar to his PT saber, but less intricate it seems. Luke DOES use Anakin's old saber, he just left it on board the Falcon while they were in the Death Star. You never see it clipped to any belt he may be wearing. But in short, Obi-Wan used his OWN saber, which he would be more accustomed to, whenever you see the blue blade on screen in Obi Wan's hands.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaster21801 Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Originally posted by J. Master Eric Actually Luke built his new lightsaber in between ESB and ROTJ, not during ROTJ. You can read how he did it in the book "Shadows Of The Empire" In fact, that's why his green saber looks so much like Ben's saber from ANH... Luke used the guide book that Obi-Wan had in his house. If you look at the two saber hilts, there are definite similarities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian iTi Posted June 1, 2002 Share Posted June 1, 2002 Originally posted by Exar Kun II Though this does not concern Episode 1 or 2 directly, it's a question regarding the continuity of the films. I'm not nitpicking, I'm just curious. In Episode IV when we first meet Obi-Wan, he shows Luke the lightsaber that belonged to Anakin. The next time we see Obi-wan use the saber is in the Cantina at Mos Eisley. The last time we see Obi-Wan, is in his classic face-off with Vader/Anakin. Now, Obi-wan is clearly holding the saber when Darth, ironically, cuts him in half, the same way Obi-wan did Maul years before(yes, I know Obi-Wan didn't "die" in the normal sense but, he was gone, nonetheless). Obi-wan is clearly holding the lightsaber when this happens. Now, Luke does not recover the saber, and we do not see him with it for the rest of the film. There is no mention of it again. NOW. . . In Episode V, Luke has the lightsaber, and if you look at the base grip, it is the same as Anakin's. This leads me to ONE of 2 conclusions. 1. Obi-Wan let Luke keep Anakin's saber. I find this unlikely, because I cannot fathom Obi-Wan being as irresponsible as letting Luke, who didn't even really know what a Jedi was at the time, keep what was undoubtedly the most powerful handheld weapon in existence(the sentimentality of it being his father Anakin's nonwithstanding), as Luke would not have been able to wield it. I always thought that Obi-Wan, after showing Luke the saber and explaining who his father was, had taken the weapon back and that was the one we saw him use for the duration of the film. Perhaps the saber that we see Ben die with is his own, and Luke still had Anakin's. I say this because. . . 2. In Episode V, Luke has a lightsaber, and if you look at the grip, it look's like Anakin's, as I stated previously. Now, either Ben let him keep the weapon after their first meeting(again, which I find difficult to believe)or the more obvious answer is that Luke built his own from scratch. If this is the case, then how? Luke had not even begun his Jedi training(accept for his brief encounter with the seeker on the Millenium Falcon in Episode IV), so how would he have known how to construct a lightsaber? Did Obi-Wan's spirit guide him through the process? WHERE DID THE SABER COME FROM? If i'm thinking too much, just tell me to be quiet:D . Any answers are welcome. Ya to answer your question Obi-Wan has his own lightsaber, he never used the one he gave to Luke. If you look at the one he uses at the bar scene and the duel w/ Vader, the one he gives to Luke, his fathers saber, is diffenet, I cant believe u never noticed that!And I cant believe u even asked a question like that, no hard feelings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Kun II Posted June 1, 2002 Author Share Posted June 1, 2002 Originally posted by Mandalorian iTi I cant believe u never noticed that!And I cant believe u even asked a question like that, no hard feelings Well, you can certainly believe it, because I asked it:D . Seriously, I went back and looked at Episode IV(I didn`t have access to it at the time of the post)and I see the saber handles are distincltly different, so. . .I have my answer. Thanks, everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 Who cares? its a saber! Just kidding. I used to be obsessed woth building/buying saber props, and I read that ESB Saber was the same as ANH saber, except it had a few modifications. And If you read "Shadows Of the Empire" , As suggested earlier, You will read that Luke built his new saber to resemble Ben's from ANH. And, The saber does resemble it a great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewok Hunter Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 Originally posted by Jaster21801 Ok, I can't believe no one addressed this... Luke and Obi-Wan BOTH have sabers. Obi-Wan's OT saber is similar to his PT saber, but less intricate it seems. Luke DOES use Anakin's old saber, he just left it on board the Falcon while they were in the Death Star. You never see it clipped to any belt he may be wearing. But in short, Obi-Wan used his OWN saber, which he would be more accustomed to, whenever you see the blue blade on screen in Obi Wan's hands.... this could be because lightsabers are not standardly used by stormtroopers, which luke was sneeking around as Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaster21801 Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 eh, I had a witty reply, but it doesn't really matter... cuz that may very well be his reason... of course, if he had been SMARTER, he might have taken it with him, then he mighta had more luck with doors and the dianoga and such... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xX-Ender-Xx Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Thanks for the info. guys. Believe it or not I have been curious about that saber for a while but i never thought of asking you... thanks for the help.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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