HellFyre69 Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 this is about the emperor SW novels *Spoilers* I used to read A LOT of SW books, and I belive there was a novel, that they tried to revive the emperor. Also That luke entered the dark side, howerver thx for the love of leia, and han, and all his friends he was able to come out of the dark side before it was to late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 20, 2002 Author Share Posted June 20, 2002 The ultimate of all questions has been answered. The DEATH STAR is not a CRAP STAR. The DEATH STAR is not a COOL STAR. What is it then? The Death Star is not perfect and has its silly faults, but nobody said it was perfect. The Death Star is a machine made by people or some type of life form, so the fault is with them. The Empire even though they beat the Rebels in fire power, man power and technology, they are crap at using it. The Death Star always got distroyed, because they failed. Not because of Luke who had the force power, in SW4 he didn't even know how to use them properly, not until SW6. The Empire had the greatest Jedi Anakin, and probably the first Sith Lord who was old and great in the force, but they still lost. If the Rebel Alliance had the same power as the Empire in the form of the Death Star, they could have ruled the Universe. Basically, the Death Star was controled by a bunch of idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 Originally posted by mez1109 The Death Star always got distroyed, because they failed. Not because of Luke who had the force power, in SW4 he didn't even know how to use them properly, not until SW6. Actually he did use the force to destroy the 1st death star. remember obi wan telling luke, "Use the force luke"? The Empire had the greatest Jedi Anakin, and probably the first Sith Lord who was old and great in the force, but they still lost. If the Rebel Alliance had the same power as the Empire in the form of the Death Star, they could have ruled the Universe. Basically, the Death Star was controled by a bunch of idiots. The empire fell because it was destined to happen. Yes they had Anakin the chosen one. Yes they had more fire power. And yes they had the mastermind that we call Sidious. It was not ruled by idiots. The empire fell for one simple reason.... Anakin. He was always meant to bring ballance to the force. He did. He killed the emperor. Thus crumbling the empire. It doesnt matter if the 2 death stars were destroyed. They would have built more. Without the leadership of a powerfull person like sidious the empire would be weakened greatly. So when anakin killed palpatine he brought ballance and he incapacitated the empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gore222 Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 not only is flying around with 10000 megaton atomic bombs stupid, it's dangerous. I mean, what if the engines burned out and destroyed Couruscant our the entire Core? buhahahaha that would be cool too see in the movie though:monkey4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 The Death Star always got distroyed, because they failed. Not because of Luke who had the force power, in SW4 he didn't even know how to use them properly, not until SW6. But he still used the force to make that shot, he didn't use his targeting computer if you'll remember, and obi wan told him "Luke, use the force"......the force was with him, and so he made his shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 Look ay my above post. I was missing a thats why it didnt come out before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReIIiK Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 Don't forget that the AT-ATs kinda suck, but it strikes fear into those to oppose the Empire..........just like the DeathStar (FEAR!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 20, 2002 Author Share Posted June 20, 2002 I didn't mean Luke never used force powers, he had the force powers and used them, but he is only ONE not even trained Jedi, against two very powerful and experienced Jedis. The Empire had a much better chance, Luke's force powers were so weak (conpared to powerful Jedis) that even in SW2 Darth could have killed him if he wanted to. Then you can argue that the Empire would have won if Darth done his job right and killed hime instead of wanting Luke to join him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 And you can argue that the Colorado Avalanche would have won the stanley cup if Joe Sakic would have scored more goals.......but he didn't, and so the avalanche lost to the red wings. Vader wanted his son to join him, which is what the emperor told vader to try and do, so Vader actually WAS doing his job right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 Vader knew that Luke will put balance into the force, probably the same reason Luke and his sister were seperated. Vader was taking a chance, and it was a really bad chance he was taking, but ET Warrior you are right, as the sith are arogant Jedis, they knew the danger of Luke, but thought that they could control him and use Like as a weapon and Darth's replacment. All those years, and Anakin never got to go on holiday, and as soon as he tries to retier, he dies. Life is hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 Originally posted by mez1109 Vader knew that Luke will put balance into the force Actually its Vader/Anakin who is to put ballance in the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 I Anakin(Vader) STILL thought in SW4-6 that he was the one to put balance in the force, which he didn't do for years while becoming Vader, why were Luke and his sister seperated, and Obi Wan was called the crazy man by Luke's parents who adopted him, was watching him all the time. Until Luke came of age, and Vader decided to capture his son or kill him, during that process killing his parents and leaving their burnt bodies behind (why burn them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 Originally posted by mez1109 [/i] I Anakin(Vader) STILL thought in SW4-6 that he was the one to put balance in the force, which he didn't do for years while becoming Vader, why were Luke and his sister seperated, and Obi Wan was called the crazy man by Luke's parents who adopted him, was watching him all the time. VaderAnakin was the one to put balance in the force. Yes luke had a big part in him doing this, But if it was meant to happen. Luke was a key to Anakin doing what he did. In the end it was Anakin/Vader fullfiling the prophecy. Not Luke. Until Luke came of age, and Vader decided to capture his son or kill him, during that process killing his parents and leaving their burnt bodies behind (why burn them). Vader didnt kill Lukes parents. If he did then Vader would kill himself? And he killed Padame too? I think you meant his uncle/step uncle and aunt/step aunt. And besides the storm troopers killed his parents, but they were not ordered by Vader to do this. Vader found out about Luke afterwards when he heard his name mentioned as a rebel pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 22, 2002 Author Share Posted June 22, 2002 Why kill them? Maybe they were looking for Obi Wan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 Ummm, they were looking for R2 since he had the data plans for the Death Star... Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 We'll replay the scene for you, to jog your memory mez Luke and obi wan are next to a destroyed sandcrawler, many dead jawas Luke: Well it looks like sandpeople alright, look there's gaffi sticks, bantha tracks, i've just never heard of them hitting anything this big before ObiWan: They didn't but we are meant to think they did. These tracks are side by side, sand people always ride in single file in order to hide their number. and these blast points, too accurate for sand people. Only imperial stormtroopers are so precise. Luke: These are the same Jawas that sold us R2 and Threepio, if they found out who they sold them to it would lead them back.......home! ObiWan: No Luke, it's too dangerous Then we see luke drive home so fast, arrive, and owen and beru are dead. Edit-Some of that might not be quite right...typed it from memory.. And luke and leia were separated because they didn't want vader or the emperor to know about Leia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 22, 2002 Author Share Posted June 22, 2002 It was those damn sand people, very good memory ET Worrior, I already fergot. Still dosn't prove the sand people did it, they don't burn people, they just sale scrap and steal it. Why did Obi Wan take so long to contact Luke, he could have tought Luke when he was a young lad. Oh yeah does sand people that killed Anakin's mother, they come to attack poor R2D2 as well. I bet you someone knows what those sand people are called, so many names, and all are weired, I bet you George can't even remember them and has to check up his notes onece or twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 Umm, the Sand People (Tusken Raiders) didn't kill Owen and Beru, the Imperials did when they tracked the droids to them. I never understood why the Imperials felt the need to disguise themselves as Sand People though. Guess maybe they were worried they'd scare off whoever had the droids if it was known that Imperials were scouring the area. As to why they killed them. *shrug* Maybe because they didn't want to leave anyone alive that could warn whoever had the droids... Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 22, 2002 Author Share Posted June 22, 2002 ET Warrior is actually WRONG, and I am right. NO????? You must be making a mistake Kryllith, it.......it.....just can't be. So all the time he took the p*ss out of me I was half right, damn. Before I start dancing arround my sombrero (spelled wrong, then again I wouldn't know), please confirm that I, YES I, was actually rightish, please do that Kryllith, thank you. Kryllith, may God bless you, and your future/present children be healthy and strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 22, 2002 Author Share Posted June 22, 2002 By the way..... ......Imperial SCUM, what have they done. Now this is a serious investigation, Did those imperial look like one of the following suspects: 1. 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 ???????? when did i say it was the sandpeople? I was pretty sure that my post was simply clarifying that the imperials did it because they knew that owen and beru had purchased the droids................... As to why they killed owen and beru.....most likely the stormtroopers were going about, smashing everything looking for the droids, owen and beru perhaps stood in front of the doorway (where they were dead) and told the troopers they couldn't enter, because they didn't want anymore of their stuff smashed....and the stormtroopers shot em and went in anyways........i dont really know, but it's possible that's how it happened. Still dosn't prove the sand people did it, they don't burn people, they just sale scrap and steal it. Do you mean Jawas? They sell old droids and such...Sandpeople/tusken raiders are just a nomadic warrior type race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 22, 2002 Author Share Posted June 22, 2002 Sorry ET Worrior, just a misunderstanding So it was those Imperials all the time. The weren't after Luke, or were they. What is the chance that Princess Leia's ship was flying over the area where Luke lived. Then C3PO and R2D2 trying to escape to that same planet, and landing near the area where Luke lived. Coincidents, or they knew where going, did Obi Wan contact them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted June 23, 2002 Share Posted June 23, 2002 They actually didn't land very close to where luke lived.....they just got picked up by the Jawas and the Jawas took them to the Lars homestead. They were not after luke....had no idea about luke...they just wanted the droids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 23, 2002 Author Share Posted June 23, 2002 Did Vader even know he had any children. Probably no, if he did, he would have tracked them down. Maybe he fault Padme just got FAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted June 23, 2002 Share Posted June 23, 2002 Have you seen ANH mez? Cause if you havent, then all your questions about : who killed lukes aunt/uncle, or did vader know he had kids would be answered. People already have answered these questions for you in this thread. I already said that Vader finds out about Luke when his name is mentioned as a Rebel pilot. Thats when Vader finds out he had a son. He finds out about Lei in ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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