mez1109 Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 Alot of people are saying how crap Jango Fett was, then again he didn't really kill anybody in the movie, except his helper. If the Jedi (Anakin & Obi), did not sense the poisoned dart fired, he could have actually FINISHED them both or at least one of them off. So would Boba Fett be better then his father (even though Boba is a clone), or are they both crap, and just extra in the story-line. Then again Jango has his own computer game, Boba dosen't. Also shouldn't the Storm Troopers, who were cloned from Jango, genetically improved, given better weoponary, saved the Jedis and have advanced military training be able to kick Jedi Ass, and not be just sliced up like Melons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogus Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 The storm troopers are normal "people" (they can be human or mandalorian or other race that can fit in a suit) who were enroled in the academy and turned into, well, Grunts as you might call it. the idea was derived from the clone troopers on kamino but never kept as a final thing. they started getting "people" who have minds of their own and can make battle decisions. I think jango looks better and has better choicew in hand held weapons, he used 2 light pistols and boba used one rifle. boba doesnt look as good because he has dents and all scratched up armour but he sruvived the pit of carkoon and is still living. in a sense by looks of armor and operating areas they are two different guys. to cut it short Jango is fasionable with all the silver but boba got da brains he survied the pit got more money, captured solo even with all the problems encountered in shadows of the empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 Anakin and obi did not sense the dart because it was not directed at them.....had he shot it at them they would have sensed it and moved.....and he would only have one chance to get a shot off because of jedi reflexes, so he'd only kill one, leaving Zam alive to tell them who he was....making it far easier for the jedi to track him and capture/kill him. And even the clone troopers couldn't kick jedi butt, let alone storm troopers. You will notice that jango lasted 3 seconds when a jedi actually wanted to kill him, so why would a clone trooper last any longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 Originally posted by ET Warrior You will notice that jango lasted 3 seconds when a jedi actually wanted to kill him, Exactly. Some were impresed with how Jango handled himself vs. Obi wan in Kamino. You have to realize that Obi-wan was trying to capture Jango not kill him. On the other hand Jango was trying to kill Obi-Wan. Jango would have not lasted to the arena battle to be beheaded by mace if Obi-Wan would have actually tried to kill him in Kamino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellFyre69 Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 Keep also in mind, that obi is just a jedi knight, while Mace windu is a jedi master. There is a lot of big difference of skillz in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichDiesal Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 Plus he has a purple saber, which obviously makes him better than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 19, 2002 Author Share Posted June 19, 2002 Obi was hanging from the steel rope, so a GOOD bounty hunter would have had a spare weapon an shot his head off. I Jango did not lose his Jet Pack, or was able to lose the steel rope faster he could have killed Obi. You could say they were evenly matched in that battle. Mace Windu is not just any Jedi Master, he is one of the greatest Saber fighters, even Count Dooku was scared of him. I thought Jedis sensed if someone else near was to be killed or attacked, just as they noticed Padme being nearly killed by those worm things. Maybe Jango Fett wanted them alive? Still, Boba might not look as cool as Jango, but he is STILL ALIVE, noone achieved to kill him. Jango didn't do much with his small hand guns, did he? They should have given him a bigger part, and killed him off in SW3, as George is cashing in from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle d'Tana Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 I would say, they have both the same skillz(Boba and Jango). I mean they are the same man, the exactly same man! And Boba hates jedis cause thy killed his father! And Boba can only survive against Luke cause he will not make the mistake of his father.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 19, 2002 Author Share Posted June 19, 2002 That what I think, but why is Boba a better survivor, could his ruined armor explain this? Maybe he has been in more battles. He could actually be about 15 to 20 years old in SW3. If the difference between SW1 and SW2 is 10 years, then the difference between SW2 and SW3 could be 10 years as well. Unless someone knows how many years pass after SW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassick Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 Actually Jango would most likely have killed Mace if he hadn't been trampled by the reek just before, so he was dazed. Coleman Trebor couldn't block all of Jango's shots. Mace couldn't either if Jango hadn't been trampled. The only reason Obi-Wan deflected all of Jango's shots is because he uses Form III lightsaber combat, designed for the most defensive protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 20, 2002 Author Share Posted June 20, 2002 So Obi Wan couldnt have kept it up for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 Originally posted by mez1109 Obi was hanging from the steel rope, so a GOOD bounty hunter would have had a spare weapon an shot his head off. I Jango did not lose his Jet Pack, or was able to lose the steel rope faster he could have killed Obi. You could say they were evenly matched in that battle. If obi wan was really trying to kill Jango he would have done it before he was hanging on the side of that platform. Maybe Jango Fett wanted them alive? I dont see nay reason why he would want him alive. Still, Boba might not look as cool as Jango, but he is STILL ALIVE, noone achieved to kill him. Bobba is dead. If you see a person die in the movies he is in fact dead. Dont mix EU with the movies. We are talking about the movies and story that geogre lucas created right? Or were you talking about ONLY the fictional stories about SW in the EU universe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 Originally posted by Rassick Actually Jango would most likely have killed Mace if he hadn't been trampled by the reek just before, so he was dazed. Coleman Trebor couldn't block all of Jango's shots. Mace couldn't either if Jango hadn't been trampled. The only reason Obi-Wan deflected all of Jango's shots is because he uses Form III lightsaber combat, designed for the most defensive protection. I disagree....If coleman trebor is the blue alien that jumped onto the balcony to confront dooku, then he has a reason that jango shot him.....one, they were extremely close, and two he was off guard. He was expecting to fight only dooku, and didn't notice jango. Mace had his full concentration on him and there was no way jango would have killed him. Even if he would've had both of his blasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 20, 2002 Author Share Posted June 20, 2002 Jedis are very good fighters, but they could not survive a clone trooper, Darth can not be the only person who killed all the Jedis, as Yoda could still finish him off. Boba is not called a bounty hunter for nothing, and he is a big bother in the old SW, a man with no force powers, fighting against Luke the greatest of all Jedis, well come on give him some credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 but luke didn't even do anything to Boba. Boba was defeated by a blind Han Solo armed with a stick. And any Jedi could survive a clone trooper. If they couldn't, then there wouldn't even BE Jedis. Now if you had like, 50 clone troopers against one jedi, that jedi will probably die. But you need a LOT of them to take down a jedi And luke was nothing compared to Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 Fergot about that, hehehe what a melon. Can take on the most powerful people on the planet, but gets the sh*t beaten ou of him by a blind guy, he probably was so good that he could not take on a blind, ome legged, one armed, one eyed (as if that make a difference) alcoholic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 The Stick had the force within it, as it used to be a Jedi in a previous life. Still, who is better (the whole point of this thread), Jango or Boba, no matter if one is the exact clone of the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 OK ill answer that question. I think Jango showed the most skill. My opinion is based on how much they did and showed within their screen time in each of the movies thay came out in. Bobba didnt really do anything. He just followed the milinium falcon to bespin(cloud city). Then he notified the empire. Resulting in Vader capturing all of them(besides luke he wasnt there). Jango went up against Obi-wan and he did fairly well vs. a jedi(who was trying to capture him;) ). He also killed that one jedi who was going for Dooku. So I say Jango was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory_Vetack Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 Originally posted by MotionMan Bobba is dead. If you see a person die in the movies he is in fact dead. Dont mix EU with the movies. We are talking about the movies and story that geogre lucas created right? Or were you talking about ONLY the fictional stories about SW in the EU universe? [/quote Actually you never see him die, all you see is him falling into the pit, but, you're given no proof that he has died, so it all relies on what George Lucas wants to do for Episode 7 (which will probably be made...) he has two options, 1) Kill, Boba, and tick off all his fans, or 2) go along with Expanded Universe and books and let him live, of course if he chooses #2, he'd have to create new armor for Boba, on account the pit has them now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 Actually you never see him die, all you see is him falling into the pit, but, you're given no proof that he has died, so it all relies on what George Lucas wants to do for Episode 7 (which will probably be made...) he has two options, 1) Kill, Boba, and tick off all his fans, or 2) go along with Expanded Universe and books and let him live, of course if he chooses #2, he'd have to create new armor for Boba, on account the pit has them now..... He will probably not make an eposides 7-9 he had said so in many interviews.(I do hope he does though) In the EU story he is in the sarlacc and he is talking to guys in there? LOL is it like a lounge with sofas and stuff and everyone is having drinks? Anyway he may be alive in the books(thats fine, it makes for a good story) As far as the movies go he is dead. face it. I dont have anything against EU. I enjoy some of their stories and the comic books are very good too. All im saying is dont mix the two You dont have to agree with me. Maybe this quote from starwars.com will shed some light. There's been some confusion of late regarding the 'Infinities' symbol, and Star Wars Expanded Universe continuity in general. Terms like "canon" and "continuity" tend to get thrown around casually, which doesn't help at all. When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves - and only the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 Luke fell down a very nealry bottomless looking shaft, but he survived, not because just of Jedi powers, but by hanging on (with one hand, impossible) to a antenna, then telepathically stating his position. Boba did not lose his hand, has a Jet Pack, and grabling equipment. A good bounty hunter always has a backdoor or second escape plan, so a remote control ship could have been waiting for him below. Same thing happened to Darth Maul, but he was chopped in half, I dought that a stick does much damage, specially when wearing a metal suit. Maybe in SW2 during the OB1 and Jango Fett fight, george was trying to tell us that you can not throw Jango down from somewhere high that easily, and of course the grabling equipment. He could still be just dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mez1109 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 This is the federation starship the SS Enterprise, Our mission, to search the galaxy for new worlds with new women to inpregnate with starfleet seed. Oh yeah, to help Spock give me crapy logical ideas so that DR. Mc Coy can prove that the human race is the best & to keep on saying Your Mad JIM, You cant do that JIM. Also Scotty just wants a bottle of Scotich Scotch so that he can throw the whole idologies Spock & Mc Coy put forward back at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 ummmm......that last post seemed kind of random....I say Boba Fett is dead.....if the Sarlacc was escapable, why would Jabba use it as a way to execute his enemys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RectalFury Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 How are you digested over a 1000 years anyway? Wouldn't you die before 1000 years was up? Obviously the sarlacc gives you special powers that make you live longer. Maybe that's why yoda was so old. He fell into a sarlacc, but someone tied a string to his ears and pulled him out. Then he lived for a long time. Makes since no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.BF Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 well jabba probably thinks it is unescapable, and besides, if any one ever could escape, boba fett's probably the only one hard enough to do it. Boba is nails. Mr clean kiwi jango just doesn't even rate in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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