Darth Talliusc Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 i really like yoda and all but vader is well... hes got more midichlorians than yoda (raw force power) and hes not hindered by only using the force in defense and he has a longer lightsaber, yoda on the other hand is well passed his prime, wont let himself use his anger to access more power and cant even walk without aid.... actually that last point isnt very good since vader cant breathe without aid...... ok lets just say that exar kun would wreck them both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Groovy Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 I got really exited when I saw this posted and just as I got ready to vote I hesitated and withdrew from the poll. Yoda and Vader are equally my favorites in the Star Wars universe. I truly could not live without either one, nor could I choose one over the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Originally posted by Dath Maximus Obi seek help! What did I do ?!?!?!?!? I didn't say nothin bout no llama! Anyways, back to the topic, I think if Yoda and Vader had a fight, Yoda would win, because they are both very old people, and using the dark side drains your life, so that doesn't help vader much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turgenev Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 (No pun intended) Let's break it down into the critical arguments. 1. Vader has more raw force power; Obi-Wan said so in Ep1. However, Yoda's got half a dozen centuries of USING that Force power, and refining his skills. 2. At which point in their respective careers would they be fighting? Presuming they both fight in their prime, I'd have to say "I dunno", because we see Yoda in his declining days, and still being relatively bada$$. So, Let's say "movie prime", meaning what we actually see of them. 3. Vader wins. Why? Sadly, cuz Yoda's constitution wouldn't be able to hold out. Dude's old. Yeah, he danced around Dooku pretty well, but how long would he have been able to keep that up? And he was matching Dooku power for power, not actually overtaking him. And for those that argue that "if Yoda is so great, why didn't he kill Vader"... while I vote for Vader, my answer to that is this: Yoda has to choose his own ground. He wouldn't be fighting JUST Vader. He'd be fighting the ENTIRE EMPIRE. A man against a million - while that'd be a FREAKIN' FANTASTIC movie to see, it ain't gonna happen. (Imagining a Star Destroyer being yanked out of orbit by a pissed off Yoda) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Doo Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 Vader is quite weak actually. He does not match the Jedis of old like Yoda, Windu, Dooku, Jinn, or even Kenobi. I dont know why someone at all votes for Vader, he cant even keep the same saber for half an hour (AOTC). And dooku is much stronger than Vader. Dooku spent like 50 years on his Saber abilitys, Anakin only kill Sand Tusken children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Omega Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 Anakin was a padawan at the time............. If you didn't know, Obi Wan jacked up his saber a bit when going into the waters. That can be eaisly preventive, managing a factory raid is not....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticSpade Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 Originally posted by kfretz I agree....Yes, it is true that Yoda is the most powerful jedi but Vader is also quite powerful.....Dooku sucks compared to vader and Dooku almost defeated yoda so vader could easily.......i mean yoda just moves heavy objects but Vader is the only charater we have seen that really utilizes the force grip.....i would love to see Vader just choke out yoda. yoda is very powerful but luke is the only one who can defeat Vader, thats why he is so important, therefore chain rule states that Vader could beat yoda First off i have to state this again. YODA was playing with Dooku we haven't seen YODA at his best yet. Dooku relies entirely on defense, YODA uses an offensesive style but the whole time he covers his @$$ there's no way you can get through his attacks. And YODA was 900 in ROTJ but i get your point. YODA was banished to the Dageba system you see y in Ep3. But i agree with what was stated earlier, if they are both in there prime no BIONIC ENHANCEMENTS ie: Vader YODA would surely win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Talliusc Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 yoda wasnt banished. he hid there because dagobah is full of life and would help him should he ever need to defened himself. later on there was no point in leaving as there was the presence of a dead dark jedi from bpfassh there. like a negative and positive charge they cancel each other out. thats why vader and palpatine never found him... and im getting really sick of all this yoda talk. i used to like the old dude but now i wish he'd never been put on a film reel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda_623 Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 Um....I'm just gonna say Yoda and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatTant Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 I think that the force desides who wins . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfmanNCSU Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 Hey Mat, and welcome to the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatTant Posted July 12, 2002 Share Posted July 12, 2002 thx. Im already a darksider , I go by the name of ATIK when I play . I just don`t like tha 1.03 patch so I play with 1.02 =) MatTant = Mat Tant = lunch lady in swedish . [ its my DJ name ] ... anyway ...=)... I just realized that I have little skills wrightin` in english . So , I`ll try not to emberess myself too much. okok . Look . first of all , IF they had to fight , and the location they fight is a VERY important factor. [remember Vaders throwin stuff around fettish?] . And Yoda jumpin around and stuff ... humhum en second . Why use force powers ? I mean , the would surly dispel each other e-z as hell? [ ok , vader would probably try to do such a sneak thing like Maul did] But Yoda would sence this , would`t he? .. I meeeeean like , he can see into the future right? =) ... humhum ... Who asked this stupid thing anyway? =) Sorry if my english sucks , thats one of the reasons Im wrightin` here , cause` I really love english ... Je , ajt . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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