MotionMan Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Read the 2nd part of my sig . Its straight from StarWars.com:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 I don't accept the novelizations as canon... the screenplays, yes... the novelizations based on them, no. There's too much room for an author to go off and slip in his own ideas, concepts and theories, for them to be anything more than uncanonical EU. I completely disagree with the way Salvatore interpreted Anakin in the AotC novelization. Also, "Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker" was not written by Lucas, but Alan Dean Foster... no, no, don't point out that George Lucas is given writing credits on the book--it really was ghostwritten by Foster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 LOL Jedi Monk I was about to get to that in my next post. Anyway thanks for saving me the time;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Alan Dean Foster, the guy who wrote Splinter of the Mind's Eye (and you're right according to this http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/2001/02/news20010201b.html). Well, if you want to get technical, they're all "based on stories by George Lucas." The EU can only make claim to using the liscensed characters. I'll keep looking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharaFett Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 yea- but i'm saying george lucas LEGALLY, OFFICIALLY, ect. DECLARED THAT HEIR TO THE EMPIRE IS, IN FACT, EPISODES 7-9. SAY WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT ABOUT THE REST OF THE EU. I FEEL JUST THE SAME WAY ABOUT EU AS YOU DO. I DONT LIKE THE WHOLE PAALPATINE AND PALPAATINE BUSINESS, BUT HEIR TO THE EIMPIRE IS OFFICIALLY AND LEGALLY EPISODES 7-9 once more, rephrased, IF GEORGE LUCAS WERE TO MAKE EPISODES 7-9 (he isnt), THE SCRIPT WOULD BE LIKE THAT OF THE HEIR TO THE EMPIRE SERIES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Anybody got a copy of Star Wars Insider #23? Supposedly it says this: What's "gospel" and what isn't? "Gospel," or canon as we refer to it, includes the screenplays, the films, the radio dramas and the novelisations. These works spin out of George Lucas' original stories, the rest are written by other writers. However, between us, we've read everything, and much of it is taken into account in the overall continuity. The entire catalog of published works comprises a vast history -- with many off-shoots, variations and tangents -- like any other well-developed mythology. From the Star Wars Encyclopedia (1997) by Stephen Sansweet Which brings us to the often-asked question: Just what is Star Wars canon, and what is not? The one sure answer: The Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition -- the three films themselves as executive-produced, and in the case of Star Wars written and directed, by George Lucas, are canon. Coming in a close second we have the authorized adaptations of the films: novels, radio dramas, and comics. After that, almost everything falls into a category of "quasi-canon." I just found these on the 'net (SW.com forums to be exact), I'll consider them hearsay until I can confirm....(as I don't own those sources) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 once more, rephrased, IF GEORGE LUCAS WERE TO MAKE EPISODES 7-9 (he isnt), THE SCRIPT WOULD BE LIKE THAT OF THE HEIR TO THE EMPIRE SERIES. No... if Lucas were to make Episodes VII-IX (man, it'd be cool to see an "X" in the title of an SW movie!), they would be original, Lucas-created stories. Heir to the Empire is just as contradictable as anything else in the EU. I vaguely remember the interview you're referring to, and I believe Lucas said that he was finally letting people write post-RotJ because he'd decided not to make any post-RotJ movies. Something like "If anyone wants to find out what happens after Jedi, this is it..." doesn't mean it's canon, just means he's tossing us a bone. The movie adaptations can't help but reflect some of the canon, as they are telling the stories of the movies. But everything 'between the lines' isn't canonical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Well, that's about all I can do with it for now, heh... I figured I was correct to assume that the official screenplays of the films, official novelisations of the films, and official radio dramas of the films were all canon in that order... ie: the non film sources I listed are canon so long as they don't contradict the films themselves and they go in decreasing order of authority. So the EU, while it might represent official SW continuity, can totally and utterly contradict the films (mainly the prequels) and thus you can see they aren't canon. I'll leave you with some parting thoughts from Curtis Saxon: http://www.theforce.net/swtc/continuity.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Talliusc Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 GL will only do these 6 movies, sorry, i wish it wasnt true but it is. he never actually said that he was going to do 9. that was just crappy media hype that he was too lazy to correct for a while. he has gone on record saying that in 2005 he is going to direct tv stuff, no more movies for a while.... but then again he has been known to change his mind a fair bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediGhost[SITH] Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Let's picture Episode 5 for a minute: All the sith are gone, maybe a few cheap stormtroopers here and there are left over from the Empire. Okay... What's the storyline? Is it some kind of cheap deal like Jedi Outcast (takes place AFTER Episode 4) where Desann comes along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goten583 Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 Yeah i think you're kinda slow on that whole story, he was asked it so much by the media. I'm surprised that some people dont know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 Let's picture Episode 5 for a minute: All the sith are gone, maybe a few cheap stormtroopers here and there are left over from the Empire. Okay... What's the storyline? Is it some kind of cheap deal like Jedi Outcast (takes place AFTER Episode 4) where Desann comes along? Episode 5 is The Empire Strikes Back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Spirit Posted July 19, 2002 Share Posted July 19, 2002 There can never really be an end to this debate. George Lucas is the uber-controller of Star Wars so whatever he says goes. And if he changes his mind then no one can stop him! All fear the power of George Lucas!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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