Gohan_Trunksss Posted August 27, 2002 Posted August 27, 2002 title mainly explains it, my compile stops at second step and i have let it compile for hours and its still stuck at that step. any ideas on how to solve this? there is nothing in the junk.txt that shows error.
Mister_Sinister Posted August 27, 2002 Posted August 27, 2002 Make sure there are no intersecting brushes, uhhmm, and if that doesn't help, ask Rich. Either that or reinstall whatever editor you're using, since the compiler could be messed up.
Gohan_Trunksss Posted August 27, 2002 Author Posted August 27, 2002 intersecting brushes? u mean like the z-fighting brushes?
Mister_Sinister Posted August 27, 2002 Posted August 27, 2002 No, I mean like a wall that passes through another wall.
Gohan_Trunksss Posted August 27, 2002 Author Posted August 27, 2002 oh, ok ill try to check best i can if that dont work ill re-install GTK and see if that works
Karshaddii Posted August 27, 2002 Posted August 27, 2002 A. You have a leak. Fix it. B. You did not make use of detail brushes. Depending on how you built your map you may wa...hmmm... 1. If your map is a fairly small map (like a multi map) or is surrounded by a skybox--or has low detail--the you should turn all brushes that DO NOT TOUCH THE VOID into detail brushes (select them and press "ctrl+m") 2. If your map is large or takes place indoors then make wise choices on what you turn into detail brushes--as you may want structural brushes in some places to make leafnodes. ...If you care to have me go on and on and on about the use of detail brushes then just say so....now I will get back to the topic. C. As Mister_Sinister said--intersecting brushes--can really, REALLY--especially if they are structural--can slow down the vis process. D. Hint brushes. Hinting really brings the vis process to its knees--and if you have an incorrectly placed Hint Brush--then its going to KILL the VIS process. To test and see if any of these are your problems--then compile the map on the BSP NOVIS selection. If it compiles--then one of these is your problem. If it still doesn't.....then....uhhh.....hmmm. Ask Rich or Emon = )
Gohan_Trunksss Posted August 27, 2002 Author Posted August 27, 2002 ok lol, u mentioned skybox, i have been haveing a problem with that, andy tried to help me but it seems it didnt work, when i delete the roof of the sky box it compiles fine but if i keep the roof on it stops and the second step, but i need the roof of my sky box so it doesnt do that weird thing that freezes in gameplay. if i do the control +m to my sky box should it fix this? ok lil update , tryed bsp novis and it completed
Karshaddii Posted August 27, 2002 Posted August 27, 2002 Whatever you do---DO NOT make your skybox or any other brush touching the void a detail brush (by pressing ctrl+m). So its the skybox huh? Things to try. 1.Delete it. Make it again. Line up the brushes so they do not intersect each other. Texture the entire thing with system_caulk. Then face texture (press "ctrl+shift+click") the visible inside of the skybox with whatever texture you want. 2.Do the same but use a different shader. Maybe it doesnt like the particular shader you are using (I don't know why this would be a problem but might as well try it anyways.) 3.send the map to me and I will take a look. kastraelie@clearsource.net But you also gotta remember. You said this is your first map ever (am I correct) the VIS process *can* take hours. The better and more skilled you become--the more techniques you learn to lower VIS time. If all else fails just wait it out. And it probably will finish if the junk.txt don't show any errors.
Karshaddii Posted August 27, 2002 Posted August 27, 2002 Just read your update. Wait it out. I think it's just taking its sweet time. Leave the compiler on and go watch Dragon Ball Z from the beggining up until the point where Goku becomes a Super Sayen. It should be finished by then. = )
Gohan_Trunksss Posted August 27, 2002 Author Posted August 27, 2002 LOL, dude thats like 3 days worth of db and dbz series. anyways plz tell me what is the void lol, dont forget im new and if i cant get it to work in the next half hour ill send it to ya.
Gohan_Trunksss Posted August 27, 2002 Author Posted August 27, 2002 ok it got past the vis process, i did the control m thing, so i guess we fiex it , i still wana know what the viod is though, so if u will please tell me so this dont happen again
Karshaddii Posted August 27, 2002 Posted August 27, 2002 VIS? VIS is the process where the compiler breaks down the map into leaf node.s.....wait....this is a very, very complicated subject....and I feel that I should direct you to a more expert source. 1. ---Greatest tut ever made on the like http://www.nibsworld.com/rtcw/tutorial_detail_and_hint_brushes_part1.shtml 2. Pretty Da** good page http://fps.brainerd.net/hintbrushes.htm
Emon Posted August 27, 2002 Posted August 27, 2002 I don't think you've got a leak, I dont' even think you could get past the BSP stage with one. Let it go all night, and if it finishes in the morning, it means you've got a really poorly constructed map that's just taking extremely long to compile.
Gohan_Trunksss Posted August 27, 2002 Author Posted August 27, 2002 It works again. thanks for your guys help.
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