KaBuTaR Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 yes... i did read the sticky! tried everything there, no effect. I have a voodoo3 2000 on a PII 350. I installed JKII, ran it, got this error: JK2: v1.0x win-x86 Mar 4 2002 Initialising zone memory ..... ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars JK II Jedi Outcast\GameData\base\assets1.pk3 (8011 files) C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars JK II Jedi Outcast\GameData\base\assets0.pk3 (6674 files) C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars JK II Jedi Outcast\GameData/base ---------------------- 14685 files in pk3 files execing default.cfg couldn't exec autoexec.cfg ...detecting CPU, found AMD w/ 3DNow! ------- Input Initialization ------- Skipping check for DirectInput Joystick is not active. ------------------------------------ ------- Force Feedback Initialization ------- ...inhibited, not initializing ----- Client Initialization ----- ----- Initializing Renderer ---- ------------------------------- ----- Client Initialization Complete ----- --- Common Initialization Complete --- Working directory: C:\Program Files\LucasArts\Star Wars JK II Jedi Outcast\GameData ----- R_Init ----- Initializing OpenGL subsystem ...initializing QGL ...calling LoadLibrary( 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\opengl32.dll' ): succeeded ...setting mode 3: 640 480 FS ...using desktop display depth of 16 ...calling CDS: ok ...registered window class ...created window@0,0 (640x480) Initializing OpenGL driver ...getting DC: succeeded ...GLW_ChoosePFD( 16, 16, 0 ) ...35 PFDs found ...GLW_ChoosePFD failed ...GLW_ChoosePFD( 16, 16, 0 ) ...35 PFDs found ...GLW_ChoosePFD failed ...failed to find an appropriate PIXELFORMAT ...restoring display settings ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3) ...setting mode 3: 640 480 FS ...using colorsbits of 16 ...calling CDS: ok ...created window@0,0 (640x480) Initializing OpenGL driver ...getting DC: succeeded ...GLW_ChoosePFD( 16, 16, 0 ) ...35 PFDs found ...GLW_ChoosePFD failed ...GLW_ChoosePFD( 16, 16, 0 ) ...35 PFDs found ...GLW_ChoosePFD failed ...failed to find an appropriate PIXELFORMAT ...restoring display settings ...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3) ...shutting down QGL ...unloading OpenGL DLL ----- CL_Shutdown ----- RE_Shutdown( 1 ) ----------------------- GLW_StartOpenGL() - could not load OpenGL subsystem I downloaded WickedGL, put the quake 3 regular display drivers in teh folder after renaming to quake3.exe, then copied the opengl32.dll to the gamedata folder. ran it again - the above error was gone but got an error saying that the openGL 32 subsystem thingy could not be loaded from C:\WINDOWS\system32\. Any ideas what to do? anyone? i've pretty much tried everything... upgrading drivers and all. everyone else seems to be able to get it to work except me! could it be the version of wickedgl i'm using? it's an old one i think - before the thing went shareware - Windows95/98/ME/2K Version WGL1B30 I did get it to start once (not sure what happened) but wickedgl popped up a msg saying that i was using the wrong drivers because of multiple texturing on my board or something when i'd installed single texturing drivers. not sure what this means... sys specs- win xp pro pII 350 MHz voodoo3 2000 192 MB RAM if anyone has any ideas - PLZ - would be great... thanks EDIT: the opengl i'm using is actually putting in an older dll than the one XP has. If it's possible, would someone possibly be able to email me the proper one that was installed by wickedgL? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Have you tried messing with WickedGL settings like loading minimal software support, etc. Or tried GLDirect. A lot of people have confirmed success with it, but in all honesty a PII 350 MHz machine with a V3 2000 will be lugging to the point of crashing even with the lowest settings. My best suggestion is save some cash and build a pc that will run it. P4/AMD 800MHz-3.84 GHz 256MB MINIMUM PC-133 Or Faster/More GeForce 4/Radeon series cards NO AUDIGY for sound. It is incompatible with JO. WIN XP Pro or WIN2k or WinME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaBuTaR Posted May 5, 2003 Author Share Posted May 5, 2003 Right, noted... you're probably right I didn't know Audigy was incompatible with JO but I'll keep that in mind... Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted May 5, 2003 Share Posted May 5, 2003 Well, its the whole issue where there is the option for the Advanced EAX support, for some reason or another, the Audigy just causes problems to the point of crashing Jedi Outcast, which is frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jom Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 I have had success playing JO in the past but I haven't played in a while...at least since I went to XP. I used the Wicked GL program. I have since restructured by HD and all so I had to reload a new copy of JO. I tried the Wicked GL thing and it doesn't work now. I also cannot find this jk2config file anywhere. Neither can JO if you note the output I got below. BTW, I did put up the patches 1.03 and 1.04. config: AMD 1800+ 512 of RAM VooDoo 3dfx (yikes!) ___________________________________ JK2: v1.03 win-x86 May 3 2002 Initialising zone memory ..... ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData\base\assets5.pk3 (4 files) D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData\base\assets2.pk3 (289 files) D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData\base\assets1.pk3 (8011 files) D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData\base\assets0.pk3 (6674 files) D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData/base ---------------------- 14978 files in pk3 files execing default.cfg couldn't exec jk2config.cfg couldn't exec autoexec.cfg ...detecting CPU, found AMD w/ 3DNow! ------- Input Initialization ------- Skipping check for DirectInput Joystick is not active. ------------------------------------ ----- Client Initialization ----- ----- Initializing Renderer ---- ------------------------------- ----- Client Initialization Complete ----- --- Common Initialization Complete --- Working directory: D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData ----- R_Init ----- Initializing OpenGL subsystem ...initializing QGL ...calling LoadLibrary( 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\opengl32.dll' ): failed ...shutting down QGL ----- CL_Shutdown ----- RE_Shutdown( 1 ) ----------------------- GLW_StartOpenGL() - could not load OpenGL subsystem ________________________________________________ Any ideas? Thanks jom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Like I told Kuabutar, even if you get it working, the perfomance will be so terrible, especially in terms of looks and FPS, that it would be better just to get a new card. You can get great deals on pricewatch.com or Ebay. Got a GeForce4 Ti4800SE 128 MB DDR for $150 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jom Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Great! Thanks.... Also, it is an AGP card I'd want to get and not PCI, right? Sorry...I'm a bit behind on the video jargon. jom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 yes, any card made after 99 or 2000 will be AGP, so yes, the GeForce4 series and any future ATI/NVidia cards will be AGP, but most likely they will be AGP8.x although some may continue the AGP4/2 specifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jom Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Thanks! Today I've done some searching and checking stores around my area. It is exceedingly confusing with all the model numbers etc etc. 1) Is there a site or a thread here dealing with different cards? Which is best? Bang for buck? etc 2) I've encountered a Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 128 MB at a store and online at Ebay. Is this good enough? It is far cheaper than the one you mentioned... Thanks for all your help. jom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 From my understanding the GeForceFX is the newest chipset, so the FX 5200 should do well for Jedi Outcast, after reviewing its specs. GeForce FX 5200 Ultra Graphics Core: 256-bit Memory Bandwidth: 10.4GB/sec. Fill Rate: 1.3 billion texels/sec. Vertices per Second: 81 million/sec. Maximum Memory: 128MB the card I have now has this for specs GeForce4 Ti 4200 Vertices per Second: 113 Million Fill Rate: 4 Billion AA Samples/Sec Operations per Second:1.03 Trillion Memory Bandwidth: up to 8GB/Sec. Maximum Memory: 128MB But I recently ordered the Ti4800 SE 128mb DDR which does this GeForce4 Ti 4800SE Vertices per Second: 125 Million Fill Rate: 4.4 Billion AA Samples/Sec. Operations per Second: 1.12 Trillion Memory Bandwidth: 8.8GB/Sec. Maximum Memory: 128MB The card you brought up should do fine for Jedi Outcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jom Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 Hello again I went and got that ti4800 card you suggested (got a good price too) but I'm still getting this error: ********************************** JK2: v1.03 win-x86 May 3 2002 Initialising zone memory ..... ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData\base\assets5.pk3 (4 files) D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData\base\assets2.pk3 (289 files) D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData\base\assets1.pk3 (8011 files) D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData\base\assets0.pk3 (6674 files) D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData/base ---------------------- 14978 files in pk3 files execing default.cfg couldn't exec jk2config.cfg couldn't exec autoexec.cfg ...detecting CPU, found AMD w/ 3DNow! ------- Input Initialization ------- Skipping check for DirectInput Joystick is not active. ------------------------------------ ----- Client Initialization ----- ----- Initializing Renderer ---- ------------------------------- ----- Client Initialization Complete ----- --- Common Initialization Complete --- Working directory: D:\Program Files\LucasArts\Jedi Outcast\GameData ----- R_Init ----- Initializing OpenGL subsystem ...initializing QGL ...calling LoadLibrary( 'C:\WINDOWS\System32\opengl32.dll' ): failed ...shutting down QGL ----- CL_Shutdown ----- RE_Shutdown( 1 ) ----------------------- GLW_StartOpenGL() - could not load OpenGL subsystem ********************************************* The file it is looking for "System32/opengl32.dll" is, in fact, there. So why doesn't this damn thing work? jom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy867 Posted May 24, 2003 Share Posted May 24, 2003 You still may need to update the video drivers to 41.29 or something like that. (available @ http://www.nvidia.com) Also, make sure that the Voodoo drivers have been UNinstalled. Also, try uninstalling Jedi Outcast after backing up any mods/models/skin and also use regcleaner to help uninstall it if necessary. Then reinstall, after updating the video drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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