Jello123 Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by Pyro vegeta, in other words stfu and emf b4 i swift kick u 2 ur fagt fase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxVegetA Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Rofl, how about if you shut up, eh? Just because you have your clannoobs licking your feet doesnt give you the right to own the thread, and shut up people. Did i told you to shut up even though i completely disagree with your opinions and think you are just another idiotic noob.......no. I am sure any smart person would realize that my solutions posted above, actually solve the problem. Tards like you dont want to accept that all your posted coments about ctf, were absolutely lame, in some ways correct but lame, because you could fix it easily with serverside options. tards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Side Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by Vestril I'm too tired to go through this whole post, and it's probably somewhere up there already...but didn't we go through this with Jedi Outcast? and didn't they make most of the changes we asked for, thereby making the game less fun, and causing the flames to increase? I hope Raven took this site off their checklist Well i think 1.4 kinda changed tons of thing for the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxVegetA Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by [div3rse.jello] ahhhh, diverse................what a shame. well who cares, anyway its another comunity of noobs protecting each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Side Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by AxVegetA Rofl, how about if you shut up, eh? Just because you have your clannoobs licking your feet doesnt give you the right to own the thread, and shut up people. Did i told you to shut up even though i completely disagree with your opinions and think you are just another idiotic noob.......no. I am sure any smart person would realize that my solutions posted above, actually solve the problem. Tards like you dont want to accept that all your posted coments about ctf, were absolutely lame, in some ways correct but lame, because you could fix it easily with serverside options. tards Did i pay someone to make a mod? no did i buy the game ? Yes and i seriously think FF duel-s/o CTF are beyond unbalanced so it raven that should work their asses to make those game type balanced making a option menu is a good idea but that work should be handed to raven not people like hex working for 0 cent P-S:im not asking for a patch immediatly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jello123 Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 actually if u read jack **** i didnt post ANY opinions on anything in this whole forum go ahead and check and that quote was from pyro btw u should go look up wat a tard is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxVegetA Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by [div3rse.jello] actually if u read jack **** i didnt post ANY opinions on anything in this whole forum go ahead and check and that quote was from pyro btw u should go look up wat a tard is ROFL you thought i would take my time to read your posts, lol. And side you are right, that shouldnt be that way, and i really think JA needs to be patched, but i dont want to happen the same as in JO. Instead of runing your private servers with that xmod, run it with the settings previously mentioned and you ll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jello123 Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 looks to me you just did.. and jeez neway READ UR OWN POSTS I am sure any smart person would realize that my solutions posted above, actually solve the problem. Tards like you dont want to accept that all your posted coments about ctf, were absolutely lame, in some ways correct but lame, because you could fix it easily with serverside options. tards so what..are you telling me you dont read any posts but call them lame anyway? ok there and dude..none of my posts have more than 30 words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the weiner dog! Posted September 23, 2003 Author Share Posted September 23, 2003 Hey vegeta let's go play some JA. opps forgot, you don't have it yet. Click that little "X" in the top right corner of your screen please. Serious though, would you be up for a quick friendly game of Jedi Outcast? I know this is off topic, but I really would like to see you in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxVegetA Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Ohhhhh again whiner dog You KNOW that i dont play JO anymore (i broke the cd) and that i dont have JA (yet), but still you keep trying to act brave challenging me. lol how pathetic, this is the third time you do it , knowing what i would answer. lol and jello i thought you could be any more smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the weiner dog! Posted September 23, 2003 Author Share Posted September 23, 2003 No one is acting brave; I play the game (both JO and JA) and have a good time doing so. I like the challenge of live opponents over single player bots; I thought maybe we could just get a little friendly game going. Guess not. But again I have to ask, why are you here? You don’t even have either game so why come here and insult people who do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by Side Well i think 1.4 kinda changed tons of thing for the best I remember that, but I also remember how the game was pretty good when it came out, and that by the time 1.04 hit the streets I was tired of it all... anyway, I didn't mean to change the course of the thread, just to make a smart-alec "observation" and then leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the weiner dog! Posted September 23, 2003 Author Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by AxVegetA It IS the answer you ******* retarded noob. Use your ******* brain and THINK, before diminishing others opinion. Originally posted by AxVegetA Screed is what we call a claned noob nerd ****** with mental disorder Let’s try something here. Some think the mods here are either not paying any attention at all, but I think they are. But for some reason they are choosing to turn a blind eye to the flames of some people. This guy has been reported countless times because of flames like this, yet no ban. Now my clan mate MediaBlitz gets insulted by a moderator and banned because he makes a sarcastic post yet this guy can flame away without any punishment? Let’s see if the mods are paying attention or not. weiner dog! = FK unnamed. Yeah, it’s me guys, the one who is banned from here. How’s it going? Now if you read this and re ban me you have to acknowledge the quotes in this post so when I come back after being banned again =p I expect to see this guy banned as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by the weiner dog! Let’s try something here. Some think the mods here are either not paying any attention at all, but I think they are. But for some reason they are choosing to turn a blind eye to the flames of some people. This guy has been reported countless times because of flames like this, yet no ban. Now my clan mate MediaBlitz gets insulted by a moderator and banned because he makes a sarcastic post yet this guy can flame away without any punishment? Let’s see if the mods are paying attention or not. weiner dog! = FK unnamed. Yeah, it’s me guys, the one who is banned from here. How’s it going? Now if you read this and re ban me you have to acknowledge the quotes in this post so when I come back after being banned again =p I expect to see this guy banned as well. unless they IP ban you... I saw a moderator in another Jedi Knight forum spamming and trolling...something tells me the quality control here has given way to the frightening tide of people.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxVegetA Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 [ Edit: Please lay off the personal attacks and flames. Trying to skirt the profanity censor is also a no-no. Consider this your warning. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 And i have the right to flame you all, because you ruined my excitement i had for JA with negative information and negative opinions. And i dont think i am the only one. Good news, I've said nothing but nice things about the game, so you don't have the...right to flame me You'll probably enjoy the game when you get it, but in the meantime, switch to decaf you'll be a happier person in general:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumor Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 why go into a post and reply to it saying you aren't going to read it but yet put in your 0.02 USD ? doesn't that just sound...strange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by Rumor why go into a post and reply to it saying you aren't going to read it but yet put in your 0.02 USD ? doesn't that just sound...strange? Uh...I was too tired to read each and every one of the 7 pages, as it was late at night and my days start pretty early. I read the first post....however I suppose I may have misphrased a little, sorry for confusing you Why respond to something I said a page ago on the thread and assume it would be directly obvious who you were talking to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comm539 Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Yay dynamic ip's. Aren't you glad you didn't pay that little extra for a static ip now [fk]mediablitz was banned for replying to an offensive post by a mod stating that good players were lifeless nerds. How you can ban the replyer without the initial flamer is beyond me. But what vegeeta is doing is wholly worse than anything mediablitz wrote, yet vegeeta isn't banned. Just because your level of skill was undermined by the addition of a simple double button tap, theres no need to cry about it. I realise you struggle to master most concepts of the game, but keep at it and you'll manage it one day. Or maybe not then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardent Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 lemme start this with: stfu about vegeta. AX = nib and that's all you need to know. if he gets banned, bonus, if not, ignore him. just leave it alone Originally posted by Prime That's okay. I had forgotten about that little hitch. I see what you guys are saying It's not a hitch, as far as I can gather. It was an intended response. Not the one I'd have made myself, but whatever floats their boats. Certainly that is the case for many. But what about those of us who like to play every now and then just to have fun getting some frags? As I have said before, when I play (usually on public servers) I seem to do pretty well. I won't call myself a competative gamer though. I know there are lots of others like me. But this isn't really the issue. I've stated what my definition of a casual gamer is, and I am moving on from there. Owning is like riding a bike...once you've been there getting back up on top isn't that hard. Just expend some effort in the beginning and you can play casual from there on out. It's how we rock it. That's kind of a neat idea... Well, I am an RPG design mechanic. I guess all that critical thinking practice comes in handy. I don't want to get into a "what takes skill" debate. Neither do I. That's just my opinion, and you're free to ignore it. I don't mean "accurate" in terms of targeting, I mean accurate in terms of how it looks and the amount of damage it does compared to the "real word", and compared to a lightsaber. Let me be blunt: if kicking did 0 (yes, big, fat, 0) damage but still knocked people over AND gave me an opportunity to capitalize I would jump for joy. That's all I, and probably most of the competitive players, want. Fair enough, but what I mean is that the changes at least have some basis in SW. Gametypes requiring everyone to do flips off peoples' faces to have any success at all doesn't quite do it, IMO. I got dared to play an entire match without using kick and I did fine. I think I had all 10 caps on my team (go speedrage capping!) and the other team only capped three times. You certainly can have success without kicking, but you need to know how to use your saber (something a lot of "casual" players don't know how to do either). I'm not quite sure how this relates to JO RPGers not wanting to play the game. Whether or not they are terrible players or not is another matter. It's probably fair to say that compared to most of the competitive community, they're downright poor. Oh no. I'm not saying at all that RPGs are not popular or that casual players don't play them. I love RPGs like the Baldur's gate series and I can't wait to play KOTOR. I am refering to JO RPG players. Those that go on servers and walk around with their sabers down and chat. Well, I don't know exactly what they do, but there are many servers out there where no one is trying to kill anyone else, or trying to capture flags, and so on. All I am saying is that those who enjoy doing this are different than those who like to just hop on a server and try adn get frags for a while (those who I am refering to as 'casual gamers'). Well, my point is you made an unclear division. I'll agree that JO (and now JA) RPGers are really weird by-and-large. Although I sit around with my saber down and taunt people sometimes, too. And I go 'wtf nib?! u chatkiller!" when someone kills me...but it's all tongue-in-cheek. Just because you login without actually intending to play the game the "way it's meant to be played" doesn't mean you're any less of a player, since in most cases you still bought and own the game. Mainly because those other things do not directly kill you. Joining a game and seeing everyone doing nothing but flips off peoples' heads instead of using lightsabers or guns affects the SW immersion (I realize this immersion is much better in SP than MP) much more than flips off a wall. If wall walks led directly to kills, I suspect that many would be against them as well. However, if everyone used nothing but lightsabers, people would be happy, if you see my point. Okay, better example...what about saber throw? The concept of throwing your lightsaber, guiding it to the target and doing damage that way was pioneered with the Dark Forces saga as well. Not many people complain about saber throw in and of itself, however. Of course, it doesn't require exquisite timing of a double-tapped jump. You just mash the alt fire button. I suspect that's where the division is defined. Again refering to just the "JO RPGer", and not a person who plays RPGs, they don't care about balance because they do not play the game at all. They use MP as a big chat room. Kicks and saber imperfections don't really matter to them because they never use them, and neither does anyone else on the server. That's not true. When I'm bored I login to RPG servers and challenge people to duels. And then I take full advantage of the (usually) FF settings. may very well be right about there being a solution that would satisfy both sides if that is the case. I didn't think that the problems required gutting JA. No, but it definitely required, in the words of Tim Allen, "more power." *grunt* But it didn't really work out fine. Since just about everyone (from what I know) played the 1.04 patch, this ment that those who stuck with 1.02 and 1.03 had a much smaller community, and a lot fewer servers to play on. When you find something you like and you make the decision to stick with it, you're usually taking into account things like the size of the community and whatnot. I played NWN for a long while, I found a couple of servers I liked. Now, I rarely, if ever, encountered new people I liked, but I had fun with the people there. This is how a lot of the competitive clans function, frankly. Heck, I'm friends with most of the guys in =X=, div3rse, rK and most of the guys in fk. We also play with some of the euro clans (JW and eUc come to mind) and I get along with most of those guys. But we rarely see people outside of our accustomed circle unless we make it a point to go smurf somewhere. Most people who aren't ready for a big challenge stay out of the =X= and div3rse clan servers. Which is fine...just the way we like it. Anyone here who has suggested that competative players go back to JO because they think it is so much better has been railed against. Saying that if a new patch came out that some people should stick to the old version is sort of saying the same thing, isn't it? So why isn't that an option for competative gamers? I'm not saying they should, I'm asking why is the above different. Well, you'd be equally mad if someone told you to "go back to quake2, nib!" Saying that people can make a choice between patch versions isn't nearly the same thing. You've still got the same game, but you've got it the way you like it. So keep it. We would. But I think I have stated what my definition of a casual gamer is, and I fit into that definition. If you feel it is a misnomer, that's fine, I'll use another name I don't think you fit the generic stereotype of the 'casual gamer.' Although you do seem to be a casual FPS player. But there's a distinction there. I am not trying to insult yours or anyone else's intelligence. Sorry if I offended you somehow. It seems so hard to try and make a point without pissing someone off these days Heh I wasn't pissed off. Ask the guys, I don't tend to get riled up over this stuff. My job is to rile up everyone else. Fair enough. But in that case competative gamers should not come here and say that they speak for all competative gamers I don't. I speak for myself, but I'll certainly share what I think the rest of our community wants. Which more often than not coinsides with my opinion, since I'm in it for my buds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 To be honest, I had (up till now) avoided this thread, because I was sick of reading the same tired debates over what are (in my opinion) minor issues. However, I can see that (unfortunately) certain individuals just couldn't help resorting to flames and letting this get personal. That's when a thread that has any value unfortunately gets ruined. It's called de-railing a thread. Shame on you for not keeping it civilized and interesting (and shame on those who took the bait and jumped right into the flaming), and instead turning it into a petty shoving match. I *know* most of you are capable of better than this. Now don't get me wrong, debates can be had and opinions shared without attacking people and flaming them. On other forums this may be the order of the day, but not here. It serves no useful purpose and it just clutters up the forums that are already too cluttered from new people who are still learning the ropes. So go ahead and start a new thread on the topic, but keep it civilized, or it will end up like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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