luismuziotti Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I think this game has a serious problem with its engine, same graphics as Jedi Outcast but the game simply has something wrong, I don't know how to make it run smoothly in my computer, can somebody tell me what can I do to make this piece of **** work as its predecessor? I need to know what are the options in the game menu that most affect the framerate, I've been told that turning off the dynamic glow help but that didn`t work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahamrick Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Maybe do some research. Yes, it's still based on the Q3 engine but things have been MODIFIED. The textures are higher rez, other things have been changed to improve the graphic quality. IT WON'T RUN LIKE JO DID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseJedi Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I have 3 times the minimum specs and it lags like crazy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I don't know about you, but I am getting the same (within 5 fps) framerates I got in JK2, and I'm only running on a Geforce2 gts (32 mb) and 256 megs of ram on a 1 ghz system. If you tweak the options properly you should get decent performance similar to JK2. Run the system analyzer program that came with the install and see if any errors pop up (run all the tests in advanced). I had to initially "downgrade" My Nvidia drivers to make the game run well. Also disabling the following options in display setup (in game) may help you: -Turn OFF detailed shaders -Turn OFF Dynamic Glow (you can still have glowy sabers with -Dynamic Lights, so don't worry) -Turn OFF force feedback mouse -Turn OFF EAX support -Turn DOWN Anisotrophic Filtering (some suggest 50 %, I put it at 0, it doesn't make THAT much difference, especially when you're fighting and speeding around). -Turn your resolution down to 1024x768. Unless you have a monitor bigger than 20 inches, there is no reason to go higher than this anyway. You can uncap your framerate (in the cfg file) from 85 fps to something higher (whatever you had it set to in JK2 is fine). This may not work for everyone of course... Messing with com_hunkmegs according to Raven does not work in JK2/JA (it auto-allocates memory, despite what we all thougth before), so that may not help you. I have my detail settings on Medium geometric detail, Medium texture detail, and it looks fine and runs decently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I don't know about you, but I am getting the same (within 5 fps) framerates I got in JK2, and I'm only running on a Geforce2 gts (32 mb) and 256 megs of ram on a 1 ghz system. If you tweak the options properly you should get decent performance similar to JK2. Run the system analyzer program that came with the install and see if any errors pop up (run all the tests in advanced). I had to initially "downgrade" My Nvidia drivers to make the game run well. Also disabling the following options in display setup (in game) may help you: -Turn OFF detailed shaders -Turn OFF Dynamic Glow (you can still have glowy sabers with -Dynamic Lights, so don't worry) -Turn OFF force feedback mouse -Turn OFF EAX support -Turn DOWN Anisotrophic Filtering (some suggest 50 %, I put it at 0, it doesn't make THAT much difference, especially when you're fighting and speeding around). -Turn your resolution down to 1024x768. Unless you have a monitor bigger than 20 inches, there is no reason to go higher than this anyway. You can uncap your framerate (in the cfg file) from 85 fps to something higher (whatever you had it set to in JK2 is fine). This may not work for everyone of course... Messing with com_hunkmegs according to Raven does not work in JK2/JA (it auto-allocates memory, despite what we all thougth before), so that may not help you. I have my detail settings on Medium geometric detail, Medium texture detail, and it looks fine and runs decently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider AL Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Moderator, could you please rename this thread. The game does not "suck" because this person is having trouble getting it to work on his system. The volume of negatively charged ion... er... threads is now reaching critical mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Originally posted by Spider AL Moderator, could you please rename this thread. The game does not "suck" because this person is having trouble getting it to work on his system. The volume of negatively charged ion... er... threads is now reaching critical mass. Exactly. What "sux" is that people don't know the difference between problems with the game and problems with their system/settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I fixed it. Np. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TogaAssasin Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Ok I have some serious performance issues, Now I'm running on a BEAST of a machine and the single player game simply runs like ass, I get INSANE framerates in MP (hitting my 80FPS Vsync cap) but in single player the same settings yield a framerate of 0...... hmmmmmmmm. Using the newest 3.7 ATi Catalyst drivers, system is. Athlon XP3200+ 1Gb Corsair XMS PC3200 DDR ASUS A7V600 ATi Radeon 9800pro Sound Blaster Audigy 80Gb Seagate Barricuda V SATA I'm running at 1280x1024x32 Highest quality everything 4xAA and 8XAF in multiplayer, and my frameratem hovers around the 80FPS mark limited by refresh (vstync on). Now in single player using the same setting I get skipping in the cinemas and oooooh I say about 2 FPS in game. Turning AA and AF off and going to 1024x768 and turning everything down to High (meaning no very high geo detail) I get about 25FPS. WTF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samus Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 This is really weird. I had performance issues as well, though not that serious. Have you tried turning off dynamic glow? It helped tremendously for me. I run at 90 FPS now (demo). Also, the vsync doesn't seem to do work right. When I turn around fast, I can clearly see ugly horizontal lines on the screen. Isn't vsync supposed to take care of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luismuziotti Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 Thank you very much for taking your time writing me these explanations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeV1589 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 One thing I found gave me an extra 40-60 fps (!!!) is setting shadows to simple instead of volumetric, the code must be buggy to cause such a severe drop in FPS for simple shadows, either that or the installation screenshots are true and player shadows really do fade out...haven't seen that myself yet. With this disabled however I could set everything else to full and still get at least 80fps at 1024x768 on a Geforce 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WadeV1589 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112033 - also a performance thread, one thing I suggested there is turning of volumetric shadows as for some reason in JA they knock off between 40 and 60 FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkendShadow Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 when i use force push and pull my frames skip when i spawn in multi the green glow makes my frames skip when someone picks up a force block my frames skip how do i fix it!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseJedi Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Originally posted by Spider AL Moderator, could you please rename this thread. The game does not "suck" because this person is having trouble getting it to work on his system. The volume of negatively charged ion... er... threads is now reaching critical mass. There is something wrong with the game if someone with a GeForce 2 GTS can run the game better than someone with an ATI Radeon 9800 or a GeForce4. It doesn't "suck" but I think some additional testing would have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseJedi Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 Kurgan what is your FPS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjvegetto Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 what driver set u downgrade to cause i ising the same driver i used in JO and those are 44.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseJedi Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 what FPS do u have TSunami? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjvegetto Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 my system is as follows P4 1.8ghz 386ram gf4 ti4600 128 (44.03drivers) game setting 800x600 32bitcolor 32bit texture bilinnear high high shadows off dyanmic glow off feedback off the fps i ever seen was 60 lest i ever seen was 15fps some level run good some just run like crap but most the lvl i usally get an avrage of 25-40fps with these setting in jo i never drop below 60fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseJedi Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I am having the same problem. I have a GeForce MX440 SE and I get on average, 20-40 fps on medium settings. I think JA has some compatability issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luismuziotti Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 Anyone knows if this prople at Raven know about this problem, cause I think that we are talking bull**** here, and the problem is that we need an update now. I can't believe that this people released this game with all those bugs. I want my money back!!!. This is the first game since I bought my computer that I can't actually play. Command & Conquer Generals and Splinter Cell are very heavy but playeable, this game can't be heavier than C&C and Splinter, but it doesn't work right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeto101 Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 i dunno, k, i got a 3 ghz p4, 512 meg of ddr ram and an ati rad 9800 pro. And my frame rate goes all buggy sometimes when i use push or pull. Any suggestions?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseJedi Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 I find that frame rate goes down only in certain areas. I canget 90fps in some places but get 10 in others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahamrick Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 My system specs are posted as below, but I've noticed by following reccomendations that were posted for the demo I can pretty much get a constant 70-80fps. First, make sure force feedback for the mouse is off. Second, turn the shadows to simple. When I had shadows set to volumetric I was gettin -15- fps if I was lucky. Turned that to simple, and I jumped up by nearly 55 fps. Another thing, for those using the Radeon 9800 Pro and using the 3.7 drivers, if that annoying flashing you get is bugging you, turn off dynamic glow. Everything else is set to high, anistropic filtering is max, detail is max. Resolution is 1024x768. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luismuziotti Posted September 21, 2003 Author Share Posted September 21, 2003 And other thing, Prime, how old are you?, I think by the way you speak that you are still crapping your diapers. I read all your replies in other threads, and I went to the conclusion that you not even have any teeth. C'mon Grow up, maybe I can help you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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