[TSL] New Robe WIP

[Harker]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi

What I'm trying to say is that this way is too much randomic.

You cant be exact on what color you want.

There must be a better way to select colors to recolor it.

Seems to work for most though... there must be something you're missing or something explained above you aren't quite getting.

 

I know personally, I try to first figure out where all the pieces of the flat texture go. Then I get an idea of what I want to change.

 

Next, I duplicate my flat layer. Typically I will take another copy and desaturate it completely to gray scale (using hue/sat tool in adjustments.) The I make a new layer, take opacity of that layer to 50% and start painting with 100% on the brush. This helps me "stay in the lines" and let me be precise. One I get the color of something (say a light blue for JUST the shirt) I crank the layer to 100%, and start playing with blending options. I'm ONLY worried about this piece right. Typically you are going to use Overlay, Multiply, Darken, and Lighten. Some colors and textures will lend themselves better to dodges and burns, however.

 

Then, I make a new layer, and work another piece (say the cloak part of the robe) and repeat.

 

NOW, if I want certian elements to match, I typically keep them together on the same layer (even if it means linking or merging the layers.)

 

I do a LOT of layer stacking and erasing holes in layers so pieces come through. Again, using the opacity of the layer can REALLY help you be precise. Oh, and STAMP TOOL IS YOUR FRIEND!!

[Darth_ToMeR]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi

That way it looks like ****.

It doesnt look nice or my PS is screwed.

You must be missing something with the Hue/Saturation. If you can tell us what excactly are you doing, we can see if you're doing something wrong.

[General Kenobi]

When your editing very small sections and the like recoloring and whatnot you can paint the "part" of the .tga more accurately by using the Polygon Lasso tool and selecting the "part" your working on. Then once its selected do what we've been talking about by painting it on but while selected. It will only let you paint inside the selection. So if your editing something very small you can use that little tip to get into even the smallest of corners.

 

Just popped into my head so I thought I'd throw that out there.

[Lorden Darkblade]

Ok. First I select what I want to change just 1 piece, then I change with hue/saturation.

Don't say it's because I don't create a layer cuz it is not.

I tried and was the same.

I simply want a good way to select colors.

Like you can do with the brush.

Thats a very nice way.

I want to be able to select colors that way to change the color of the part of the skin I want.

[General Kenobi]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi

Ok. First I select what I want to change just 1 piece, then I change with hue/saturation.

Don't say it's because I don't create a layer cuz it is not.

I tried and was the same.

I simply want a good way to select colors.

Like you can do with the brush.

Thats a very nice way.

I want to be able to select colors that way to change the color of the part of the skin I want.

If your talking about editing the colors by simply "selecting" the red on a red/white/blue uniform use the Magic Wand tool. It selects color by "a guessing method" if it goes over what color you want play with the Tolerance and it should help. If you get one small section you want selected say red that you wanna recolor; do a Select/Similar and it will pick up the rest of the red in the picture. This way is VERY unaccurate though I'd highly recommend making selections with new layers like we've all been talking about in the thread.

[Lorden Darkblade]

Dude I select it with the lasso.

You're making things harder here...

I already said what I do.

 

Ok. First I select what I want to change just 1 piece, then I change with hue/saturation.

Don't say it's because I don't create a layer cuz it is not.

I tried and was the same.

I simply want a good way to select colors.

Like you can do with the brush.

Thats a very nice way.

I want to be able to select colors that way to change the color of the part of the skin I want.

[Harker]

I think I see what you are getting at Uchi.

 

You are saying (correct me if I'm wrong) that when you have something selected, you want to effect the color of that selection with the same ease as if you were to click on the swatch pad (color selector) and BAM, color changes.

 

The problem with that, is it doesn't work that way. You can effect the HUE of the selection using the HUE tool and step through the colors one at time using your arrow-up key when the number value of the HUE tool is highlighted. Photoshop sees APPLIED color (brushing new color onto something) and PRESENT color (color that already exists) in different ways. Thus, there is a control variance in how they are treated.

 

There IS a clunky way to do what you are wanting, but it gives you very few options. Under IMAGE > ADJUSTMENTS is a VARIATIONS tool... you may want to check it out. Another way would be to use the Replace Color tool... but I have never liked that tool when dealing with such small resolution images such as these.

[Lorden Darkblade]

Mmmkay...

This is getting worse and worse can someone post if they know a tutorial on how to do this?

[General Kenobi]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi

Mmmkay...

This is getting worse and worse can someone post if they know a tutorial on how to do this?

There are only a few "simple" ways to change the color of a .tga file, and we've talked about all of em' . There are other methods but these all require plug-ins and filters and the like.

 

What on earth are you trying to do that we aren't covering?

 

If its a front part of a robe you just select the robe and if you follow what we've been saying it will work. Just go to my mods site and there are examples of recoloring in exactly the manner we've been talking about. download one and open the .tga in photoshop. Then you'll see how I did it and that might help.

 

As for the tutorials, I think there are a few out there but I'm POSITIVE they will tell you to do things almost exactly the same way as we have said. This is simply the approach most modders use.

 

As I said there are many more ways to alter other than what we've said but far to complicated.

 

But very simple instructions for making a change to an area of a .tga:

 

1. Select the piece you want to edit with the polygon lasso tool

2. Click in the menu bar on "layer" "new adjustment layer" and then pick which one you want to use. (say hue and saturation)

3. Click Hue and Saturation and when the dialogue box opens up click the checkbox to "colorize"

4. Move the hue slider to get your right color

5. If to bright a color play with the saturation

6. Click OK and I GUARANTEE it will change the color

7. Do over and over to all pieces you want to edit in the .tga

8. When done click on the layer tool box options and choose flatten.

9. Save the file.

 

I don't know how to explain it more than that.

[Lorden Darkblade]

Ok this subject is over.

I'm asking one thing and I'm getting another thing as answer, I guess my english is not good enough to say what I want to know.

[General Kenobi]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi

Ok this subject is over.

I'm asking one thing and I'm getting another thing as answer, I guess my english is not good enough to say what I want to know.

 

What your asking is exactly what we're explaining. So guess so...

[Harker]

Best of luck Uchiha, sorry the barriers of communication stopped your progress.

 

@ Darth_Tomer, keep us updated!

[Nasadus]

Try this method.

When you select the part that you want to paint with the polygonal lasso go to Image>Adjustments>Desaturate.

Then go to Image>Adjustments again but this time either go to Color Balance,Selective Color or Channel Mixer.Experiment a bit with those and see how it goes.

 

When you have painted it with the color you want you can make it lighter or darker by going to Image>Adjustments and then either go to Curves or Brightness/Contrast.

 

Hope this helps.

[Mono_Giganto]

Uchiha Itachi, are you entirely sure that you're following the hints here exactly? 'Cause I read through them and pumped out my first decent skin in Paint Shop Pro. Thanks guys!

[General Kenobi]

Originally posted by Mono_Giganto

Uchiha Itachi, are you entirely sure that you're following the hints here exactly? 'Cause I read through them and pumped out my first decent skin in Paint Shop Pro. Thanks guys!

 

More than welcome. I can't use all the tools that RedHawke and T7Nowhere do like they do but now Photoshop I could write a book. I'm a graphic design artist by trade. Always happy to help with a Pshop question.