lukeiamyourdad Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 That is all fine and dandy, but BF2 is meant for killing. Any way you look at it. It's a good FPS I'm sure, with a story and stuff, but when it comes down to it... you're shooting Nazis. Well, BF2 doesn't take place during WWII. Yes, you are killing, but there's more to it then just mindless killing. It's about teamwork, piloting vehicles, etc. You can succesfully make an ad without making it crude. Yeah, I'm aware that the media has an obsession with games like GTA and Manhunt and stuff. It really doesn't matter. I would compare it to a high school rumor that has been spread around about you or something along those lines. All you have to do is say "I don't give a f***." and be done with it. So imagewise, gamers have nothing to worry about. What are they going to do? Censor us? :| And why does the opinion of non-gamers matter? What makes us want their acceptance so? *** em. They want to think it's mindless entertainment; let them think that. Same thing goes for these ads. So they appeal to people. The devil lived in rock and roll, rap, and now video games I guess. I don't think any of us gave a damn about what other people thought about our musical preference. The industry is now so huge it needs to be demarginalized and show to the world that it's more then just stupidity. Look at comic books. They used to be pretty cheesy and aimed at kids. Now they're considered art and graphic novels are recognized as litterary works. We will still play games, they can't censor us, but if things continue, they'll look at us as murderous monsters. Even goth people get less flak then gamers. Gamers, unlike punks and goths, are not marginal. We're mainstream and we need the world to understand that we are not outside of society. Besides, the worst we look in the face of public opinion, the more people will join the ranks of the anti-gamers. What good can come of it? It might not go to the point of censoring, but they'll surely put a lot more obstacles in our path. If we look better in the eyes of the general public, people like Jack Thompson won't be able to do anything at all. They're all going to yell in the dark and the industry and us will prosper without having to worry about anything. Is there something to be worried about? Yes, or else nobody would be worried by anti-games activists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Windu Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I don't think we fear anti gamers. I don't think any of us do. Goths receive less flak than us because there aren't idiots running around claiming that goths murder because of what they listen to. You can make an ad without being crude, but this goes back to the game itself. BF2 is a war game. Ain't no niceties in war, if I may say it simply. No reason to sugarcoat. Look at comic books. They used to be pretty cheesy and aimed at kids. Now they're considered art and graphic novels are recognized as litterary works. There are still many who would say that comic books are nothing more than kiddie stuff. Even so, comics have taken a long time to transcend toward a graphic novel/art status. It's just a matter of patience until video games can be considered mainstream art. Because there are games out there, like Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, etc that are more about story and gameplay than mindless killing. And they do receive a lot of attention, even though they may be overshadowed at this point by the media's love for GTA. It's all about controversy because that's what sells the press. All we need is just a little patience... I still say **** the media though. We don't need them to praise us. We know what's good. Eventually others will too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I think we're all missing the bigger issue. These ads ****ing suck. Boring, redundant, and highly retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagobahn Eagle Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 They think you load up, grab a gun and run through blasting for no reason.... Well, whenever I load up a public Battlefield server, that is precisely what they do:p. I think we're all missing the bigger issue. These ads ****ing suck. Boring, redundant, and highly retarded. Exactly. Thank you, InsaneSith. BF2 is a war game. Ain't no niceties in war, if I may say it simply. No reason to sugarcoat. But what this ad is saying is that killing is fun, and that war is good. As a side note, it is sugar-coating war. War is a terrible, last-resort action, not something glorious and fun and macho. I supported the invasion of Afghanistan, but I was not happy about it - unlike certain others. I wasn't like "h00t, war!:D", I was like "damn, here we go again:(". People who go "yay, we're invading Iraq" are just plain dumb and need to cut down on their intake of McPropaganda burgers with McFoxNews Freedom fries. I'm not saying war games and -movies have to be violent and brutal like Saving Private Ryan or U-96 Das Boot. If you watch war movies/games to learn about warfare, you're making a huge mistake as that is not their task. I dislike inaccuracies in historical moves/games, but still, I also dislike people who think they learn things from watching Titanic, Pearl Harbour, Saving Private Ryan,Apocalypse Now!, Rainbow Six, Call of Duty, or Splinter Cell. In short: You missed the point entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 doesn't clicking "kill" the ad, rather than take you to it's web site? I've seen "kill" used in that sense a lot and no-one has ever taken it as an incitement to murder. You quite often see "kill this ad". You have lots of products called "popupkiller" and "viruskiller" and they aren't a problem either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I remember a time when games were 2D pixelated beauties you played when you had free time or wanted to take a break... It's true. Games have taken the "violence" factor over the edge. Just about every game that releases now has some bit of violence and the ads aren't doing anything to demote it. But heck, I enjoy the games, so I don't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Once the graphics get to near-lifelike levels it will be interesting to see if the violence can kkep up. Somehow gibbing a 50000 polygon dude seems like it might be different to gibbing a lifelike human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoxStar Posted October 21, 2005 Author Share Posted October 21, 2005 I'm just saying taht its a tasteless ad is all. I mean almost anything would be better than that. Do you even need a "click here" button for ads anymore? Most users are savvy enough to know that clicking an advertisement is going to take you somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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