edlib Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Well, blue (or green) vs. red was a simple choice in the earlier films: it was easier to tell the good and bad guys apart. Like white hats and black hats in the old-timey westerns. It might also been easier from a technical standpoint as well: before advanced CGI getting other colors to work might have been far more difficult. Before CGI, everything had to be rotoscoped and hand animated. Perhaps there was some reason why those colors worked better or were easier to work with than others. (But this is all merely speculation on my part...) Notice before Ep.II there are no guns that shoot blue or purple lasers, only red or green. (Also, Ep.II is the first instance of fighters shooting missiles at each other: something very difficult to pull off convincingly without CGI.) Perhaps if Lucas had had the CGI tools at his disposal now back in '77, the rules towards saber colors might have been a bit different. As far as the in universe reason goes: I always assumed that the Sith didn't have the same access to the saber crystals that the Jedi had for whatever reason,.. or that the red ones simply had properties that appealed more to dark-side users for some other unknown reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Ah but he had blue lightsabers back in 1977, so he could have had blue blaster bolts back then too if he'd chosen to. Likewise missiles have been in films for a long time, they aren't something that just cropped up with CG. Maybe "real world" stuff is harder to do convincingly because people know what it's "supposed" to look like. But how many people have seen a real missile in flight? Just base it off of what the majority of other movies use for missiles, and you're golden. The Superman movies had missiles! Also, Luke's saber in ROTJ was originally blue. Check out the trailers and even the original movie poster! It was changed to green at the last minute. Lucas did say green showed up better in front of the desert colors or something, but whatever. He could have made Luke's green back in 1977 instead of blue. Of course before they started painting in the sabers, they were originally white, but that technique just didn't please Lucas, and the rods tended to break too often, making the sequences a lot more expensive and tedius to do. We've all speculated about the saber colors, but like I said, no convincing theory really accounts for it all. The best one we came up with was "personal preference/tradition." Considering the base of the Sith, they'd have access to all the "crystals" they could possibly want. If nothing else, they could raid the factory/warehouse that produces all the "spares" that the Jedi Order has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlib Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 If I remember correctly: Many of the blaster effects in the early movies were made by making scratches in dark film stock, and then back-lighting it with colored gel to get the color. Perhaps using blue didn't work so good in that application. I don't know... From my experience in working with concert lighting I can tell you this: Blue gel that looks really blue tends to block a lot of the light, so appears very dim, and you need twice as many lights to get the same coverage, or is so light that it doesn't show much of a color, and appears as an off-white. The "Stun" bolt used to take out Leia in the beginning of the first film was somewhat bluish though, so I guess they could have done it in other places had they wished, although that was most likely an animated effect, and probably done in a different manner than the other bolt FX. Most movies that had missiles in them back then also didn't have the sheer amount of model work, film composting, pyro, etc. that the SW movies had. I imagine that ILM could have pulled it off with model work and hand animation had they really wanted to, but it would have been just too time consuming and expensive to pull off on top of everything else that was appearing on screen. Despite everything, budgets and deadlines still play an important part in the making of all of these films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk47 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 if you wath rotj you will see luke uses a type of force choke on the 2 gammorean guardsthats force grasp if you play revange of the sith the game you'll see its like force choke but it doesn't do any damge unless you throw them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cercueil Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 its force grasp because good guys dont choke. whap. as for the sabers: im sure if vader/anakin wanted a new saber he would ahve asked for one. however, it appeared he liked his blue one and kept that one as Im sure the Emperor had more things on his mind at the time than ensuring his new apprentice was asthetically pleasing to some code of good vs bad guy motiff. had someone asked me, had I been lucas, such a question I would have given the same or similar answer. as for Grevious: he made comment that the sabers were part of his collection. from this we could surmise that he got them by killing Jedi or that just took them from the corpses. regardless...he had them and it had nothing to do with his alignment. Later in the film he remarks that he was trained by dooku, but that doesnt say that he had to have the red sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachineCult Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 What? You don't ask for a lightsaber you build them yourself! Sith Lords/Jedi Masters don't just keep them in a drawer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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