Unit Count

[PrivateMiles]

Does anyone like the unit count/reinforcement count. I personaly don't like the reinforcement count because you can't send in a lot of units at once.

DS_Miles

[dede_frost]

I think the unit cap is necessary. I mean, since the graphics and particle effect on this game are pretty intense, a larger unit cap would certainly mean more lag, unless you have a super-computer (by that I mean 2 7800GT cards running on SLI), and seeing most people dont have access to that kind of system, I think its better left untouched (specially for multyplayer *Imagines all those plygons being trasmited by dial-up... imagines what 0.2fps would be like...*).

[PrivateMiles]

You do have a good point there. I never thought about that.

[ScorLibran]

And even if video lag weren't a problem, micromanagement would be. Right now in the Empire campaign (mission 7), I've got 50 Victorys and 25 Tartans in my assault fleet. Imagine all these units being in one battle with a similar number of enemy units. You probably couldn't even see anything...the whole screen would be covered with ships.

[AFH]

And even if video lag weren't a problem, micromanagement would be. Right now in the Empire campaign (mission 7), I've got 50 Victorys and 25 Tartans in my assault fleet. Imagine all these units being in one battle with a similar number of enemy units. You probably couldn't even see anything...the whole screen would be covered with ships.

 

These space maps are way to small, big ships can shot over half of the map lol thats ridiculous (and I am not talking about these rocket cruisers ).

In Land battles its ok, but it should be higher in space battles, because now it doesnt feel like real fleet battles, just like a small skirmish or raid. Double the space maps and upgrade the unit limit at tech 2 by 10 and at tech 3 by 10 (40 at max is good) and space battles would be really epic.

[falconeer999]

Even the land maps I think are small. Or, at least, have narrow paths. I rarely ever meet the cap because the paths are just too narrow for that many units. As the Imperials, my normal assault group would be 2 tanks, 2 AT-AT, Vader, 1-2 Tie Mauler, 0-1 artillery, and then I'd drop in 2 units of storm troopers from the AT-ATs. It takes forever to get anywhere because everyone always tripping over and going around each other because of narrow walking room.

[MistenTH]

The MP maps are much bigger.

 

There are mods to increase caps and such. If you can, you can change it yourself. It isn't hard.

[wuyanxu]

i don't like the way your space forces are chosen based on your ship ratios. i want it to be like the land battle, where you chose what to reinforce. so your Boba bounty hunter won't get killed before the battle start.

[PrivateMiles]

I have a question. What do you guys think the unit count should be for space?

I would say 30 at least or a few less.

[ScorLibran]

I like AFH's idea...up the pop cap with each tech level. Start at 20 for the Empire and 25 for the Rebellion (as long as the Rebellions fighters and bombers take population slots, that is), then up the limit in space battles by 10 each time your tech levels up.

 

Whether to set a hard limit at 40? I'm not sure... If the space maps become big enough (and I'd like to see them BIG), then you might even be able to step up 10 with each tech level up to tech 5 - which would have a pop cap of 60. Seems pretty big, but with a huge space map, you could divide your fleet and have multi-pronged and/or offset-timing attacks. This would seem more realistic to me. (If all these spaceships in another galaxy were real, that is. ).

 

It'd also give new meaning to "Tactical Battle Imminent". I already spend almost an hour in the longer individual space battles now...with a huge map and 60-population in ships, a space battle could take a whole day. I'm all for that.

 

I'd love the idea for the game to become more "epic" in its scenarios. A space battle could last a day, and a land battle may be something you're in for several days. Right now I complete a campaign in 2-3 actual days. With "epic" scenarios, a campaign could last weeks or even months. And the galactic map would become more of the meta-game, as it should be in my opinion.

[†Saint_Killa†]

40 pop cap is fine for me.

 

A map would be really epic if they just made space maps more wide open and less debris and asteroids in them. It makes the map too crowded and a complete nuisance.

[ScorLibran]

40 pop cap is fine for me.

 

A map would be really epic if they just made space maps more wide open and less debris and asteroids in them. It makes the map too crowded and a complete nuisance.

And Atzerri's the worst, in my opinion. That stupid vertical row of asteroids that you have to go around the bottom of in order to get to the space station, and the enemy pounding on you the whole way down. Even worse when you're trying to protect an active Interdictor left sitting at your jump-in point.

[PrivateMiles]

I mean the land battles give you what, 10. I mean 10 gets you not that much strategy. And for space if the map was huge, I mean Huge, then it should be 60, so you could get big fleets.

[wedge2211]

Yeah, but in land battles "one unit" tends to be composed of several units. Add in garrison units, AT-ATs dropping troopers, and the fact that heroes don't count towards the unit cap, and I think the numbers involved in the land battles can get quite large...Imagine landing three AT-ATs, taking up three unit cap points. They can drop two squads of troops each, comprised of 16 soldiers each--96 stormtroopers is a large enough number to project the military might of the Empire.