Why did Trask Ulgo do it? (spoilers)

[Vaelastraz]

Well...there is a simple explaination for all of this, of course. Jolee had been stuck on Khashyyk for 20 years. In that time, he has aproxamitly seen 2 humans down there. Revan and Malak, going for the map the first time. Judging by his '152 attempts he knew all to well it was a dark-side artifact. And what do we know about Carth? We do know that Revan's generals were jedi themselves. I guess Carth was frontline guy whilst Revan was more of a 'behind the scenes' guy, imo. And for Juhani...whilst playing LS Male, she was talking about a female jedi inspiring her. I don't know much about Juhani though...

 

But then again...

You could be right and the game is just a bit 'strange' in matters of plotholes. Such as Trask's case.

 

 

Revan was the leader and hero of the mandalorian wars. To me Revan looks like a guy who would make speeches in front of troops to increaase their performance. After all it is said many times how charismatic Revan was, that he could persuade poeple!

 

So, it is a bit odd that Carth doesn't recognize Revan. But who cares?

 

Compared to same other Starwars Rpg I know, the story does not have that much holes *cough*

[Shem]

So, it is a bit odd that Carth doesn't recognize Revan. But who cares?

Here is why.

 

Carth only met Malak.

[mimartin]

1. How many people other then the Jedi Masters and Bastila knew that the pc was Revan?

 

I would figure no one other than the council and Bastila knew that the PC was Revan. That is something they would have to keep under their hats if their plan was to succeed. First they wouldn’t want the PC to know his/her true identity until they had a good chance he/she would not revert to the darkside. Telling others would increase that chances the PC would find out.

Another reason not to let that information get out is the danger of Malak hunting the PC down before he/she was strong enough to defend himself/herself. That is a very good reason for Bastila not to tell Trask, but she still might have trusted the loyal Republic officer enough to let him in on the secret.

 

2. How many people actually seen Revan with the mask off?

Personally I do not believe Revan wore the mask until he/she started his/her fall towards the darkside. To me the mask is an intimidation device and a lightside Jedi would not need such a device. My other explanation for the mask does not make sense for Revan (if the Exile wore the mask it would) in that he/she wore the mask out of shame. In that I mean (as Kreia says Revan had no choice but to become Darth Revan in order to save the galaxy) he/she is falling to the darkside out of a responsibility to the entire galaxy, but wears the mask he/she does not have to look at his/her reflection. Like I wrote that explanation does not suit Revan personality to me. You were a mask either to intimidate or hide (either from yourself or others), or he/she might of just thought it looked cool.

 

But did Calo Nord recognize him? I mean, I figured it was a Bastila thing, but when he describe Bastila's partners to Saul Saul instantly recognized the one as Revan?

 

Good point, but Saul also thought Raven was dead. If I was Saul and Calo started describing the PC, my first question would was this person a Jedi? When he said he/she did not use a lightsaber, I believe he would not be able make that connection. Then again if he knew the entire story of what happen on Taris, then it is possible.

 

Some more interesting talk to throw into the mix. If you remember visiting Zax and speaking to him about the assassin Selven, he tells you how she killed off the Ulgo family. And it just so happens Trask's last name is Ulgo. And somehow we managed to fly right over the planet where perhaps his potential family had been killed off.

 

So maybe Trask did it because he might have wanted to 'join' his family in a way that he could die with honor. Or perhaps he didn't want to be on Taris simply because that assassin might have targeted him. I'm just throwing this one out there, as it seems that Trask could potentially be linked with the Ulgo family of Taris.

 

I never caught that in all the times I played the game. Losing everything you care about except the military you served could very well explain the reason for Trask’s sacrifice. He had no family outside of his military family to live for so protecting his military family (like he was not able to protect his real family) would have been his only priority (very similar to the Carth storyline).

 

For Juhani...I never tried to follow her story, but to my LS male character, she stated that a FEMALE Jedi was her inspiration somehow.

 

I usually play with a female PC, and then she says it was the Revan then.

 

Here is why. Carth only met Malak.

Very good point and by the way that is the Revan I’m using right now.

 

Again thanks everyone, this is my first thread and I was extremely worried about making a complete fool of myself in starting this. I would have been happy if I received two or three answers. Even with a game that I have played over and over so many times over the years I have still been taught some new things and some new perspectives about the game by our discussion. Thank you.

[Totenkopf]

You forget something...

Like Carth states, Saul has always been a high-ranked guy. Even in the days of Revan. I guess they have occsinally met eachother. And since he only got the DS powers and clothing/look at the END of the Mandalorian wars, he was still LS/Neutral by face at that moment. The fact that Carth doesn't recognise you can be explained by the simple fact that Carth says he was with the '....force' at some time, and saw his wife dying in his arms, meaning he was a frontline soldier at the time.

 

 

Actually, I wasn't suggesting that Saul might not make some kind of intuitive jump as to the actual identity of the PC (hence saying it wasn't impossible). But, as was mentioned above, Revan was widely believed to be dead. Futhermore, as mentioned above, it's very likely that Revan's face was not yet masked predarkside. In light of his role in crushing the Mandalorians, it seems unlikely that no one would know what he looked like. Think of Eisenhower, Macarthur or Patton less than five years after WW2. Unlikely someone wouldn't have recognized them so soon after the war. Or any hollywood star who hasn't made a big pic in the last 2-3 years, but whose had notable RECENT box office successes.

 

Seems to me that Carth was merely stating that many in the fleet didn't get much FACE time with the Jedi, thus he's unable to give his gut impression of Revan. He met Malak, sure, but doesn't actually say he NEVER knew what any of them really looked like. For instance, we've all seen pics of say, George Clooney, but how many of us have actually MET him and been able to form our opinion of him w/o relying on 2nd hand info?