Quantum logic, is any use of logical reasoning inherently flawed?

[ET Warrior]

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard presented. If you hold up two fingers and three ADDITIONAL fingers just appear out of nowhere?

If you're going to follow that to it's conclusion, there must be some universe where 1+1 is equal to infinity, so if you hold up two fingers an infinite number of fingers also show up. This obviously would then end up destroying that universe in a terrible flurry of eye-poking.

 

There is almost no way I could be convinced that there exists some reality where if you take one of something, and get one more of it, you have anything other than two of that something. If there are more than two, then you obviously got more than one more.

[Windu Chi]

That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard presented. If you hold up two fingers and three ADDITIONAL fingers just appear out of nowhere?

If you're going to follow that to it's conclusion, there must be some universe where 1+1 is equal to infinity, so if you hold up two fingers an infinite number of fingers also show up. This obviously would then end up destroying that universe in a terrible flurry of eye-poking.

That is exactly what I mean, by illogical and contradictory; when all possibilities happen, ET.

See, it is extremely hard for you to imagine such a reality with your strict navigation of logic and rationality.

Also there is no conclusion if infinity is involved in the argument.

There is no conclusion to be reach.

Well, that is our society's definition of the concept of infinity.

And theory of the big bang or big smack(M Theory; n-dimensional brane collision for the creation of our universe), the idea of infinite parallel universes of Matrix Theory is ridiculous also; infinite universes imply there was no beginning to existence.

So, the most strongest theory of physics for unification of the strong, weak, electromagnetic and the elusive gravity interaction have ridiculous unification physics, philosophical and illogical implications.

But there are less weirder theories about the unification of the four forces of our local universe, unless there are more forces.

There is almost no way I could be convinced that there exists some reality where if you take one of something, and get one more of it, you have anything other than two of that something. If there are more than two, then you obviously got more than one more.

But all of existence maybe is that weird, ET,

just my suspected belief.

Continuously being filled or infinitely filled(:lol:whatever the hell that translate into) with ridiculousness and illogical characteristics.

 

so if you hold up two fingers an infinite number of fingers also show up. This obviously would then end up destroying that universe in a terrible flurry of eye-poking

 

The very idea of infinite number of fingers will destrory our universe too, also this is very fascinating; the idea of creation(I mean creation of anything in our universe, not biblical) of anything is partially absurd too; if anybody bound theirself to the idea of creation their reasoning according to logic is illogical; you have to continuously and endlessly explain every n creator and the result of every n creation.

 

Specific questions like:

 

Who created God and who created every n Gods; the idea of a beginning is adsurd if our current finite logical postulates is followed, this seem to be evidence that logic maybe is flawed.

Where do time come from; the idea of something creating time, without time of itself is adsurd, well adsurd base on the laws of physics from our perspective universe.

All motion(kinetic energy) with all matter and energy interactions that will have half potential energy also, have to time already active; the very idea of something creating something with no time is illogical and the laws of our perspective universal physics break down.

Like for example if time is = 0 in displacement/time then the velocity is infinite.

When one play with 0 in mathematical formulas all math fail and in turn all physics calculations fails.

That is why Issac Newton and Gottfried Leibniz had to develop the concept of limits of mathematical functions to describe motion with the derivative; the expression of rate of change.

df/dx: derivative of some function respect to x, x=/0; cannot equal zero x~0 must become infinitely close or infinitesimally(infinitely small quantities) close to zero; 0<x<1; x=/ negative number; which will be the case if x<0

 

I can go on giving examples but this post will have a never ending message, because there are all possible examples to show.

Ridiculous, but still very fascinating!

[Samuel Dravis]

You are only considering a very, very small part of what I mean by infinite possibilities; with M Theory(Matrix Theory) spacial dimenisons lower then three maybe a physical reality; a contradiction from our common sense(or experience) of reality; many people think the concept of D<3 as a paradox to common experience of our 3-D universe.

Another example arithmetic operations like 3+3=6 in our universe, but in another universe 3+3=9 or 1+1=5 in which I mean mathematics might be set by the greater level of supreme beings in all of existence for every specific universe; that for any number n, n+n+3=p; if n=1 n+n+3=5 as above, this will always be the result in that specific universe.

So if you put up two fingers to signify the arithmetic operation of 1+1=2 in that strange universe of variable mathematics, three fingers will appear to signify the sum as 5.

An obvious contadiction and completely illogical to what the axioms of arithmetic says in our universe.

Strange, but that is what I mean by, ''all possibilities happen''.

Samuel!

 

That doesn't seem particularly illogical to me. Let me show you. These numbers all have the same meaning:

 

1000100

2112

1010

233

152

125

104

75

68 (base 10, normally used)

62

58

53

 

They're just using different number bases (2 through 14). The logic used to make them is consistent. It's just different than we're used to. The type of thing you seem to be thinking of is that these things are illogical to us; but that seems only true if we tried to use the same things we commonly use now on something it doesn't apply to. I'm sure that any such "paradox" that comes up is not really one in its own context.