TSL Crashing every 5 or so minutes Windows 7

[4sostrander]

Nope, still get the glitch.

[Q]

Updating your sound drivers might help.

 

Go to Control Panel>Hardware and Sound>Device Manager and find out what kind of sound chip you have.

[4sostrander]

...It says "High Definition Audio Device."

I tried to update it automatically but nothing really happened.

[Q]

It doesn't say "Realtek" or anything?

 

Go to Start, and type "dxdiag" without the quotes in the search window, then click on the link that appears. Click on the Sound 1 tab and it should tell you the brand of your audio chipset.

[4sostrander]

Nope, nothing like Realtek.

When I run DirextX Diagnostic, it says that Sound 1 is my headset, and the driver is usb audio. under Sound 2, it says that the device is "Digital Audio (S/PDIF) (High Definition Audio Device)", and under Sound 3, it says Speakers (High Definition Audio device.)" The drivers for Sound 2 and 3 are HDAudio.sys. Hope this helps.

 

Edit: I got curious, so I decided to run the first KotOR's hardware scan and I got this:

 

[sWKotOR]

ReportDateTime=6/16/2013 4:50:54 AM

SysInfoVersion=v1.00.60

GameExists=1

GameVersion=v1.03.514077

GameInstallLocation=c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\swkotor\

 

[OS]

Name=Win9x

Version=Windows 9X v6.1 build 7601 Service Pack 1

Service Pack=None

Status=Fail

 

[swapFiles]

?:\pagefile.sys=0

 

[CPU]

CPUCount=4

CPUSpeed=2800

CPUFamily=15

CPUModel=5

CPUStepping=2

CPUVendor=AMD

CPUName=AMD Athlon II X4 630 Processor 2800MHz

Status=Pass

 

[Memory]

RAM=4096

Status=Pass

 

[Disk Free Space]

C: (NTFS), UNICODE=61.90GB

D: (NTFS), UNICODE=3.04GB

F: (NTFS), UNICODE=39.14GB

Q: (NTFS), UNICODE=2337.20GB

Status=Pass

 

[CD-ROMs]

DriveLetters=E:\,G:\

Drives=

 

[Video]

Video Card Name=RDPDD Chained DD

Video Memory=4096

Desktop Resolution=0x0x0

DirectX=DirectX (9.0+) (4.09.00.0904)

OpenGL Version=3.3.0

OpenGL Vendor=NVIDIA Corporation

OpenGL Renderer=GeForce GTS 250/PCIe/SSE2

NVidia Driver=(null)

Vid Card Status=Warning

Vid Card Driver Status=Fail

GL Status=Pass

DX Status=Pass

 

[Audio]

Sound Card Name=Rocketfish Headset (Rocketfish headset)

Status=Pass

 

 

;Game Options from swkotor.ini

 

[sound Options]

Sound Init=0

Music Volume=85

Voiceover Volume=85

Sound Effects Volume=85

Movie Volume=100

Force Software=0

EAX=0

Disable Sound=0

Number 3D Voices=16

Number 2D Voices=24

Environment Effects Level=0.60

2D3D Bias=1.50

Environment Effects=1

Environment Effects Nonstreaming=1

Environment Effects Streaming=1

 

[Game Options]

GUIsInScreenShot=1

EnableScreenShot=0

Reverse Mouse Buttons=0

Hide InGame GUI=0

Use Small Fonts=0

Keyboard Camera Deceleration=2000.000000

Keyboard Camera Acceleration=500.000000

Keyboard Camera DPS=200.000000

Hide Unequippable=0

Tutorial Popups=1

Subtitles=1

Mini Map=1

Floating Numbers=1

Status Summary=1

Enable Mouse Teleporting To Buttons=1

Mouse Sensitivity=33

Auto Level Up NPCs=0

Mouse Look=0

AutoSave=1

Reverse Minigame YAxis=0

Combat Movement=1

Enable Tooltips=1

Difficulty Level=2

TooltipDelay Sec=1.000000

Memory Access=1

Memory Level=1

Disable Movies=0

 

[Movies Shown]

Movie 0=127

Movie 1=239

Movie 2=255

Movie 3=153

Movie 4=255

Movie 5=253

Movie 6=32

Movie 7=6

Movie 8=0

Movie 9=0

Movie10=0

 

[Alias]

HD0=.\

OVERRIDE=.\Override

TEMP=.\Temp

MODULES=.\Modules

LOGS=.\Logs

LOCALVAULT=.\LocalVault

DMVAULT=.\DMVault

SERVERVAULT=.\ServerVault

STREAMMUSIC=.\StreamMusic

TEMPCLIENT=.\Tempclient

SAVES=.\saves

CURRENTGAME=.\currentgame

TEXTUREPACKS=.\texturepacks

STREAMWAVES=.\StreamWaves

 

[Graphics Options]

RefreshRate=60

Height=900

Width=1440

V-Sync=1

Anisotropy=8

Frame Buffer=1

Anti Aliasing=8

Texture Quality=2

Emitters=1

Grass=1

Soft Shadows=1

Shadows=1

Brightness=57

EnableHardwareMouse=1

FullScreen=1

Disable Vertex Buffer Objects=1

 

[Autopause Options]

Mine Sighted=1

End Of Combat Round=0

Enemy Sighted=1

Party Killed=1

Action Menu=0

New Target Selected=1

 

[config]

firstrun=0

 

Now, KotOR's always ran just fine for me on this machine. Since I'm having audio problems, though, it seems like KotOR decided to choose my headphones (Rocketfish Headset) as the default audio device, as opposed to...my webcam. So, that seems like a good start. There's something wrong with how KotOR2 is choosing my audio device, I think. But I don't know how to fix it, as I've uninstalled my webcam and all drivers related to it, and reinstalled the game since then multiple times.

[Q]

Which audio device are you trying to use; the headset or the speakers?

 

Go to Start>Control Panel>Hardware and Sound>Sound and you should get a list of the audio devices on your machine with a green check next to the default device. Set the device that you want to use as the default device, then reinstall and patch the game.

 

If that doesn't work, the next step involves completely uninstalling every audio device except the one that you want the game to use and reinstalling the game. Hopefully you won't have to do that.

[4sostrander]

Ah, see, my headphone already is checked - my webcam isn't even installed anymore, so it isn't on that list. My headphones have been checked as the default device ever since I started installing the game. And I don't really know how I can uninstall my other devices, as they're a part of my system as a whole, not separate applications.

[Q]

Which one do you want the game to use?

[4sostrander]

Er, my headphones.

[Q]

Environment Effects Level=0.60

Environment Effects=1

Environment Effects Nonstreaming=1

Environment Effects Streaming=1

 

GAH! Why didn't I see this before? I don't even have these settings in my .ini file. It looks like the last 2 settings are conflicting with one another. I tried running it that way and the game wouldn't even start. Set Environment Effects Nonstreaming=0, save and see if it runs OK then. It did for me.

[4sostrander]

Those aren't in my .ini file, either. I don't know how to change them, either. I'll try adding a few to my .ini file and see how that works.

 

Edit: The most recent swinfo.txt that I posted was from the first game, not the second. Those options that you listed where in Kotor1's .ini, but not the second one

Edit #2: also, that didn't work, still get the crash.

Edit #3: This might be important to note. The game runs for about 10-30 minutes before I get the first crash after a system reboot. Then, the game goes about 5-10, and then about 3-5, and on and on. It seems like the crashes get more frequent as the game keeps crashing without a reboot.

Edit #4: That's it, I'm stumped. I cleaned my registry four times, reinstalled the game each time. There is no way the game should think that my webcam is my sound driver, but it still does, and I'm positive that's causing the problems. I've uninstalled every audio device I can on my computer and cleaned my registry afterwards for each one. And I'm getting nothing out of it. I have no idea how to make this work.

[4sostrander]

A minor update. Bought it via Steam and installed it, with no other mods whatsoever, not even the Restored Content Mod. Problem still happened.

[Q]

I was stumped the last time. There's only so much I can do without the hardware in front of me.

 

Sorry.

 

Have you tried installing it on another machine?

[4sostrander]

I would on my laptop, but its OS recently crashed :c I seem to remember trying it and it didn't work, but I can't remember.

[Achilles]

FWIW, I've been having this problem too. Skyrim had a similar crashing issue that was related to having the audio set to something other than 16bit, 44100hz (CD quality).

 

I just went in and adjusted this setting. I'll post again later if I can play for a while without crashes

 

EDIT: Sooo, that didn't work. Locked up so hard after a couple of minutes that even task manager couldn't save me. Tried the Dantooine lag fix and haven't had a lock up since (knock on wood)

 

EDIT2: Spoke too soon. Entered combat against some droid and locked up again.

 

Here are my particulars:

 

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[sWKotOR]

ReportDateTime=8/21/2013 9:20:36 PM

SysInfoVersion=v1.00.60

GameExists=1

GameVersion=v2.10.427

GameInstallLocation=C:\Program Files (x86)\LucasArts\SWKotOR2\

 

[OS]

Name=WinXP

Version=Windows XP v5.1 build 2600 Service Pack 2

Service Pack=None

Status=Pass

 

[swapFiles]

c:\pagefile.sys=100

 

[CPU]

CPUCount=4

CPUSpeed=3100

CPUFamily=6

CPUModel=10

CPUStepping=9

CPUVendor=Intel

CPUName= Intel® Core i5-3350P CPU @ 3.10GHz

Status=Pass

 

[Memory]

RAM=4096

Status=Pass

 

[Disk Free Space]

C: (NTFS), UNICODE=95.10GB

E: (NTFS), UNICODE=61.82GB

F: (NTFS), UNICODE=64.52GB

G: (NTFS), UNICODE=71.37GB

H: (NTFS), UNICODE=26.95GB

I: (NTFS), UNICODE=48.95GB

J: (NTFS), UNICODE=53.36GB

K: (NTFS), UNICODE=70.01GB

Status=Pass

 

[CD-ROMs]

DriveLetters=D:\

Drives=ASUS DRW-24B1ST a ATA Device

 

[Video]

Video Card Name=RDPDD Chained DD

Video Memory=4096

Desktop Resolution=0x0x0

DirectX=DirectX 9.0c (4.09.00.0904)

OpenGL Version=4.3.0

OpenGL Vendor=NVIDIA Corporation

OpenGL Renderer=GeForce GTX 660 Ti/PCIe/SSE2

NVidia Driver=(null)

Vid Card Status=Warning

Vid Card Driver Status=Fail

GL Status=Pass

DX Status=Pass

 

[Audio]

Sound Card Name=Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)

Status=Pass

 

 

;Game Options from swkotor2.ini

 

[Display Options]

FullScreen=1

Disable Movies=0

Disable Intro Movies=0

Sort Modules=1

Width=1280

Height=768

BitsPerPixels=32

RefreshRate=60

 

[sound Options]

Music Volume=85

Voiceover Volume=85

Sound Effects Volume=85

Movie Volume=85

Number 3D Voices=32

Number 2D Voices=32

2D3D Bias=1.00

Force Software=0

EAX=0

Sound Init=0

Disable Sound=0

 

[Graphics Options]

V-Sync=1

Anisotropy=16

Frame Buffer=1

Anti Aliasing=8

Texture Quality=2

Grass=1

Soft Shadows=1

Shadows=1

Brightness=57

RefreshRate=60

Height=768

Width=1280

EnableHardwareMouse=1

FullScreen=1

Disable Vertex Buffer Objects=1

 

[Game Options]

UnlockedPlanetSongs=3

Enable Tooltips=1

Keyboard Camera Deceleration=2000.000000

Keyboard Camera Acceleration=500.000000

Keyboard Camera DPS=200.000000

TextureVariation=1

BodyVariation=0

AppearanceType=177

PCGender=0

GameCompleted=0

CurSithLord=0

Hide InGame GUI=1

Use Small Fonts=0

Hide Unequippable=0

Tutorial Popups=1

Subtitles=1

Mini Map=0

Floating Numbers=1

Status Summary=1

Enable Mouse Teleporting To Buttons=1

Mouse Sensitivity=44

Difficulty Level=1

Auto Level Up NPCs=0

Mouse Look=0

AutoSave=1

EnableScreenShot=0

Reverse Mouse Buttons=0

Reverse Ingame YAxis=0

Reverse Minigame YAxis=0

Combat Movement=1

TooltipDelay Sec=1

 

EDIT3: At the risk of jinxing myself (again), I think I may have found the solution. After setting Force Software=1, I was able to play for almost an hour with any lock ups. You can also trigger this via Options>Sound Options>Advanced Options and then selecting Force Software.

[4sostrander]

Forcing Software Sound doesn't work for me, I've already tried that :\ At least it works for you, right?

[Achilles]

Hopefully. Obviously, it could crash again and prove me wrong, however that was the longest I've played without an issue.

 

EDIT: Yep, last night was blind luck. Locked up again mid-dialog. Oh well.

[Achilles]

I risk jinxing myself again, but a few days ago I edited the ini thusly:

 

FullScreen=0

AllowWindowedMode=1

 

The game launches in windowed mode, however if I maximize the window it shows full screen (though I do have the small black aspect ratio bars top and bottom).

 

No lock-ups since the change.

[Achilles]

Well, that was nice while it lasted. Now I'm back to crashes every few minutes again.

 

I did manage to catch some errors in the event log. Posting them here in the hopes that they are helpful.

 

This happened first:

General

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Fault bucket 3167087374, type 5

Event Name: AppHangB1

Response: Not available

Cab Id: 0

 

Problem signature:

P1: swkotor2.exe

P2: 2.2.0.0

P3: 00000000

P4: 4fe3

P5: 0

P6:

P7:

P8:

P9:

P10:

 

Attached files:

C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Temp\WERF68F.tmp.appcompat.txt

C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Temp\WERF7B9.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml

 

These files may be available here:

C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppHang_swkotor2.exe_d8d15c5cacee43a3b2864145c438b97e4f4f68fd_0fc92d58

 

Analysis symbol:

Rechecking for solution: 0

Report Id: 83807f55-143a-11e3-9a91-bc5ff4449b78

Report Status: 0

Note: I can't find squat on fault bucket type 5. I found one site that explained 1-4, but that was it.

 

Details

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- System

 

- Provider

 

[ Name] Windows Error Reporting

 

- EventID 1001

 

[ Qualifiers] 0

 

Level 4

 

Task 0

 

Keywords 0x80000000000000

 

- TimeCreated

 

[ SystemTime] 2013-09-03T01:45:50.000000000Z

 

EventRecordID 7513

 

Channel Application

 

Computer ...

 

Security

 

 

- EventData

 

3167087374

5

AppHangB1

Not available

0

swkotor2.exe

2.2.0.0

00000000

4fe3

0

 

 

C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Temp\WERF68F.tmp.appcompat.txt C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Temp\WERF7B9.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml

C:\Users\...\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppHang_swkotor2.exe_d8d15c5cacee43a3b2864145c438b97e4f4f68fd_0fc92d58

 

0

83807f55-143a-11e3-9a91-bc5ff4449b78

0

 

This happened next:

 

General

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The program swkotor2.exe version 2.2.0.0 stopped interacting with Windows and was closed. To see if more information about the problem is available, check the problem history in the Action Center control panel.

Process ID: dcc

Start Time: 01cea844e4e7460f

Termination Time: 240

Application Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\LucasArts\SWKotOR2\swkotor2.exe

Report Id: 83807f55-143a-11e3-9a91-bc5ff4449b78

Note: the problem history in action center control panel was non-existent

 

Details

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- System

 

- Provider

 

[ Name] Application Hang

 

- EventID 1002

 

[ Qualifiers] 0

 

Level 2

 

Task 101

 

Keywords 0x80000000000000

 

- TimeCreated

 

[ SystemTime] 2013-09-03T01:45:51.000000000Z

 

EventRecordID 7514

 

Channel Application

 

Computer ...

 

Security

 

 

- EventData

 

swkotor2.exe

2.2.0.0

dcc

01cea844e4e7460f

240

C:\Program Files (x86)\LucasArts\SWKotOR2\swkotor2.exe

83807f55-143a-11e3-9a91-bc5ff4449b78

55006E006B006E006F0077006E0000000000

 

 

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Binary data:

 

 

In Words

 

0000: 006E0055 006E006B 0077006F 0000006E

0008: 0000

 

 

In Bytes

 

0000: 55 00 6E 00 6B 00 6E 00 U.n.k.n.

0008: 6F 00 77 00 6E 00 00 00 o.w.n...

0010: 00 00 ..

[Achilles]

Ok, taking a huge risk here, because every time I think I've beat this, it happens again. But here it goes...

 

I think I figured it out.

 

Step 1) Uninstall your anti-virus

Step 2) Experience TSL without crashes every 5 minutes.