Ihatetheblind Posted March 6, 2002 Posted March 6, 2002 To all of you who have played elite force or Q3TA have you seen any examples of models wearing capes or trenchcoats. I was just wondering cause I know in most older games capes, cloaks, trench coats, and just about anything with that fluid movment looks really wierd, like its rooted in places (ie all jk1 models). I would really like to see some cool models like darth vadar or basically anyone with a big jedi cloak on that flows correctly. Is it going to be possible for people to make models with such aspects without having to make an entire mod for it?
indianajones9 Posted March 6, 2002 Posted March 6, 2002 Can't be of much help to you, but that would be cool. Hitman had great cloth effects.
Ihatetheblind Posted March 6, 2002 Author Posted March 6, 2002 I can only hope that jk has half the physics of hitman. That game had the best physics in a game that I have ever seen. I guess it will probably be like most games in terms of cloaks where they are rooted everywhere except the bottom, probably to expensive in terms of cpu cycles too bad I really wanted to see an awsome vadar with this new engine, but without a cape he just looks like a garbage can.
Guest Jolts Posted March 6, 2002 Posted March 6, 2002 its possible, million different ways to do it. Check the editing forum for a thread on it. http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33523
Belgirion Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 well there is a death star mp level and a bespin level...they probably will have a darth vader skin (hopefully one w/ a cape too!)
Locke101 Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 its quite possible to make them flow correctly. I ahve Return to Castle Wolfenstein and the Axis wear dress like clothes and they look good. If i can i'll post a screenie later
Belgirion Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 yeah i have RTCW too but I haven't really stood and watched the axis soldiers
DaAan Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 its possible, but it depends how technicall u wanna get, u could code in a shed load of new cloth physics, or u could simply re-do all the animations but have the cape/robe move with the model
Locke101 Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 well i can't get a screenie. dumb angel fire won't let me post it!
Bowen Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 If you've played RTCW, then maybe you've seen the Nazi flags hanging on the wall. They seem to flow real well. Of course there is a difference of something on a stationary object and a mobile one but I would thing some of the physics involved here would be similar.
Silent_Thunder Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 "they probably will have a darth vader skin (hopefully one w/ a cape too!)" Remember what Raven said about the Boba Fett skin? They said that they wouldn't include him because he's not in the time line, and neither is Darth Vader..
Anakin Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 If anyone has examples of this working, I need to know I want to know which games, screenies ect so that we can work out how its done and how we are going to make the Jedi's have flowing Capes in the TC. PM me with details or post it on here Thx.
Graphicsgod Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 Q3 is the "BEST", and easiest, engine for making textures come alive! The easiest and best way to do what your talking about, is with a shader file (which is nothing more than a text file with a form of C programing telling the textures what to do). All textures with effects are controlled with a shader file. A cape might be better animated, then with a shader file. But if you mess around enough, you might get the shader file to do what your asking. Go here for more info on shaders in Q3.
sith hunter Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 I will really like to see darth vader´s cape flowing like the cape of Zorro of the Game "the shadows of the Zorro". It is cool to see the sword battles in that game (you are seeing it like a movie) , raven should copy that.
Major Clod Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 The Ghoul2 Animation system that Raven are using for JKII is a skeletal animation system. You will need to animate all clothes with what will be quite a complex bone structure if it is to look fluid. Also, the capes/robes will all have to be hand animated... quite a job there to make it look realistic.
nu||ifier Posted March 7, 2002 Posted March 7, 2002 Medal of honour has quite a few skins that have long coats - they arent like supermans flapping in the wind - but they look ok
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