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Well, quite a few things can determine whether or not DSL is good or not. ADSL is usually Top of the Line DSL and is far more expensive than a weaker version. So, to help a public opinion more, riddle us these:

 

1) Upload / Download speeds?

 

2) Your location relative to the DSL Central Office

 

3) Which media-type are you going to use to connect the line coming into your house.

 

4) Cost montly

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Just for clarification: Transfer speeds are measured in bits.. so to find how fast you'd download Program X, divide the megabits by 8, and that will give you the number of bytes per second (which is usually in the Kilobyte range). Dont mean to correct you but thats a common mistake among buyers that they actually think they are getting something faster than it actually is :)

 

Even still, a 1.5mb upload/download seems pretty cheap for 50/mo. The one we have at my CISCO Lab costs 120/mo and is 1.8mb upload/download, so are you sure its 1.5mb upload AND download?

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Originally posted by UseDaAgression

Im on 56k now.

 

1. It says in the ad 1.5 megabytes but for my area i belive it said a average of 756 or somthing

 

2. searching

 

3.searching

 

4. 50$ per month

 

In my area it only supports cable...but a nice one...

 

3MB Down, 1MB Up <-- Up to and it has happened many times

$44.95 per month

 

Yours is 1.5MegaBIT, 768Kbps Upload...pretty nice I say...but $50 is just rip off...totally....if you have support for DirecTV DSL, you should have access to regular DSL too...

 

Since I don't have ADSL DirecTV, I can tell you this: ANY CHARGING Cable or DSL service is way better than 56k, especially the evil AOL. Cable and DSL (DirecTV) should have a very low latency while playing JO MP...I don't know about 56k though....when I had 56k (AOL) playing on the zone, if i'm lucky, 500ms-700ms, if not, 1-4 seconds and lag out :(

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Yours is 1.5MegaBIT, 768Kbps Upload...pretty nice I say...but $50 is just rip off...totally....if you have support for DirecTV DSL, you should have access to regular DSL too... [/Quote]

 

Thats not what he said. The Ad says 1.5Mb, but he said 768Kbps average for his area.

 

Yea im still checking into everything im assuming no matter what though it will be better than 56k? Ps. YOU CAN REPLY TO MY SABER STANCES BUT NOT THIS HOW RUDE[/Quote]

 

1: Who are you talking to? :)

 

2: Almost any connection will be better than Dialup. Dialup will never go away though because it is much more reliable than DSL or Cable if something catastrophic happened and a couple of main backbone lines went down. And I should be more specific in saying TCP will never go away instead of Dialup but the truth is the same for Dialup (except it would be a 'government ISP' in this case).

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That's true. Dial-up is very reliable.

 

When I was still on phone line, and if I couldn't connect, I just entered in a different phone number and boom. Working internet!

 

Of course, you really can't do that with an ethernet cable plugged into a cable/xDSL modem.

 

-Caster

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I just recently got ADSL through Bellsouth. I get 1.5 Mbit downstream with a 256kbit upstream. It was only $20 more a month than dial-up and the speed is just mind blowing after being on 56k for so long. Now I don't have to wait over night for a 100+ Mb file to dl, its usually finished in 10 minutes now. Gaming is much more fun and reliable on the internet now. Where I was getting a ping of 300-350 in Counter-Strike I am now getting a ping of 70 at my clans server and on a few servers it has even been as low as 30-40. If you do get ADSL it will greatly enhance your web experience ;)

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Originally posted by hahadude

dialup more reliable? I've had a cable modem for almost 2 years and i think its been down for 15 min in 2 years. When i had dialup i got busy signals all the damn time. Get the DSL. It will be worth it.

 

Your not understanding the original concept behind TCP I guess..

 

Heres a quick rundown: The TCP/IP suite of protocols was developed as part of the research done by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA). It was originally developed to provide communication through DARPA. Later, TCP/IP was included with the Berkeley Software Distribution of UNIX. Now, TCP/IP is the standard for internetwork communications and serves as the transport protocol for the Internet, enabling millions of computers to communicate globally.

 

With that in mind, heres what I said again, with more depth: Dialup was originally concieved as a way to exchange information between groups of people (government officials in the case of the original concept of Dialup) if there was a catastrophic shutdown of all major communications. I dont have the original plan for this so Im just guessing when I say lines would be laid across the US that support this private network. The advantage this had over normal phone communications is that dialup signals dont necessarily need to go through a central hub like phone communications do. Thats the reason I think lines would be laid down to serve as the backbone of the network originally planned.

 

DSL/Cable is only so reliable as far as routers are up and running correctly and provided the routers have lines to send that information on ;) Should a nuke vaporize the major hub in Atlanta, a lot of internet communications would go down. Keep destroying those offices, and you'd come to an Internet halt. In essence, an assumed Blue Screen of Death for the entire Internet.

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Originally posted by Desslock

 

Thats not what he said. The Ad says 1.5Mb, but he said 768Kbps average for his area.

 

Oh oops hehe :)

 

Although I never seen an ad that will tell you the speed in Megabyte...only Megabits...heh they almost have the same symbols...

 

Hey Agression are you sure it's MegaBYTE (MB)? Not MegaBITS (i think the abbreviation is Mbps) ?

 

By the way...do I smell swamp gas here...?

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Almost all measurements about transfer speeds will be in bits. Its a martketing ploy playing off the fact that bigger numbers = more people interested. 1.5MegaBits (1536 kilobits/second) is actually 192 KiloBytes a second. As you can see it can get a bit confusing. Program sizes over the internet are normally measured in bytes. This means you could download a 1mb (1024kbs) program in 5.33 seconds. Thats still pretty fast compared to a 56Kbps transfer rate, which only downloads at 7 kilobytes/second. (but to answer your original question, a capital B signifies Bytes and a lower case signifies bits.)

 

By the way...do I smell swamp gas here...?[/Quote] *sniff* *sniff* *Looks behind him* Uh... oops :)
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I pay $50 for 1.5 Mbps down and 128 Kbps up. With that tweak from http://www.speedguide.net that was posted earlier boosted my Net connection noticeable; although it was fine before that. I'm waiting for the DSL2 (SDSL) that is being tested in the East that has speeds up to 44 Mbps like an OC3 connection except its cheaper. When it gets to the West coast, it will lower the current dsl prices.

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