Morkath Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 *waves hand at Toshiya* You will tell us the secret location of the double lightsaber... And these are not the droids you are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Apparition Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 I think it's a cool thing but not something I'd want to use because cheats have to be enabled on the server and you know there will be tons of people who won't work well under the honor system just so you can use a dual sided lightsaber model. And if it was done in 15 minutes, it probably doesn't have collision detection or even different animations. But hey, you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkath Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Yeah, i dont plan on using it on public servers, but like with my friends it would be cool. And collision detection would be easy, just copy, mirror paste or whatever =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 lol, i don't think u understand collision detection morky =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkath Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 no not really heh =p Are you refering to keeping the saber from hitting your own model? Or when it does a "hit" on your target? Either way I really dunno =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Quel Droma Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 its when the other end of the saber actualy hits and stuff, not just another picture thingie on the end of a normal saber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkath Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Right, so just copy the hit detection code of the first half, rotate it 180degrees, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damazig Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Just hope that we will all soon be able to control a double light saber in its full capacity and beauty, cause only being able to control it in a cheats able server sucks and will be nothing particularly interesting. :atat: :atat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah Boon Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 so, does the ui_freesaber command work? I really wanna see a double sided saber~! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Apparition Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 You guys don't seem to get it. You won't see this in a multiplayer game any time soon. If ever for this game. It isn't just a matter of adding collision detection for the second blade (which, Mork, is a huge ammount of effort. Collision detection was what took up most of the development time) they would need whole new moves and animations so that you don't stab yourself and for the motions to look fluid. Above that, you would also have to be able to regulate common motions like walking, jumping, running, using force powers so that they work visually with the dual saber. It's not just a matter of taking 15 minutes and putting it together. The one that is in the cheats is just simply there for aesthetics. It's really cool but it's not what you want. This is not something that is generally feasible at this point. Perhaps in the next portion of the Jedi Knight series we might see it and maybe if Raven wanted to take the long amount of time to put it into an expansion pack we might see it. But the perfect dual sided lightsaber won't be found in the mod community. That doesn't mean people won't make some wicked looking versions though Take what you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rit Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Well If it helps I loaded up Cygwin and ran a "strings jk2mp.exe" ... strings is a Unix command that lists all the text strings contained in a binary. I'll email out the strings output to anyone who wants it- I haven't gone through all of them but one little treasure I found when grepping random ideas is "dualBlade" ..... I haven't tried running the command yet if anyone wants to look and tell me if it does anything. A strings on jk2gamex86.dll shows another interesting set of strings (internal variables probably): cg_debugsaber BOTH_SABERPULL BOTH_SLAMSABERDOWN BOTH_SABERTHROW2STOP BOTH_SABERTHROW2START BOTH_SABERTHROW1STOP BOTH_SABERTHROW1START BOTH_SABERKILLEE1 BOTH_SABERKILLER1 BOTH_REACHFORSABER1 BOTH_SABERSLOW_STANCE BOTH_SABERFAST_STANCE I'll play around with it some more and see if I can't find anything else. Regards, rit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkath Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 debugsaber just shows the saber locations in the console as they move. the rest are animation codes I believe, and no freesaber didnt work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah Boon Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 so, what is it? How will it turn out to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milestone Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 The thing is, once someone does unlock it, don't expect crap from it. I mean, Toshi said he only did in 15 minutes so don't expect to go around wielding it like Darth Maul doing all the Bo type attacks. Unless...Toshi you're not that good a programmer to program a full move list in 15 minutes... Now we all need is the ability to wield 2 lightsabers at a time ala the latest Epi2 trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aik Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Until I see this thing for myself, on my comp, I'm gonna be goddamn skeptical... The dual lightsaber thing would be goddamn cool, much cooler than a dual-bladed one IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfyboy Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Dual Sabers would make me wet my pants. That is a fact people... Double ended will have to do for now though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwolf018 Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Maybe this is an easter egg. Try playing with the date on your PC. I remeber the biggest easter egg of all time was the cloud city and fighitng darth vader. VERY L33t! I never knew about this. Tell me more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetal IceCream Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 easter egg this easter the final day of easter falls on april 1st... april 1st is known as ...... april fools day what was that big april fools joke pulled a couple years back on voodooextreme.com ... hidden stuff in a game and even the developers got in on it ... place ya bets ppl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spite Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Babbling idiots eh? Well I just won't tell you now! -spite PS: Some of the different Lightsaber styles actually look really good with it. I'm not saying anything else about it ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morkath Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 was expecting someone to say that. And we allll believe you too...really =p If you really knew you wouldnt be an ass and keep it from everyone, youd tell us.(not the raven people they made the game and keep it secret for a reason) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spite Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Ok I lied. Set your timeclock to April 1st start a map Here's the tricky part, you CANNOT have cheats on when you do this. Get a -666 score during that map Type "I do not know the power of the darkside" devmap map Select your lightsaber, select again to holster it then.. /THEDESTROYER You're all horrible disbelievers and do not deserve this knowledge. -spite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsEr-X- Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 "Get a -666 score during that map"??????????????????????????? YA SURE:rolleyes:.......................... UsEr-X- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalishnikov Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Spite speaks the truth. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go kill bots while wielding my new saber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaccix Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Fighting with a double-saber would be kewl, but two-saber fighting would be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfyboy Posted March 30, 2002 Share Posted March 30, 2002 Kalashinikov, can you post some pics to ease our mind? How exactly do you go about getting a -666 score? IMO this is bull until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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