seanMO Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 I was just wondering if you guys could suggest a free download for creating basic web pages that works with win xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia_Jabba Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 frontpage express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthtoast Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 notepad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanMO Posted April 8, 2002 Author Share Posted April 8, 2002 notepd.lol how true. i actually used word pad and uploaded my .txt file. worked fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanMO Posted April 9, 2002 Author Share Posted April 9, 2002 Im trying to create a basic web page. in my program files there is a folder for MS frontpage but when i open it up there is nothing there except ver.3.0. but inside there is nothing to acces. this came with xp home. is there something i have to add to get this to work. something i have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon00 Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 All's I've used is notepad with my webpages. pure HTML - doesn't get any better than that. Frontpage is good though if you don't wanna learn HTML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthtoast Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 I can't stand programs to make web pages. They add all this extra crap... I'm in charge of my school's web site, and they often want some of their word docs (with charts, tables, etc) put up. So, I just have word save it as a web page, copy and paste from the source. Have you seen how it does tables? It's MASSIVE, so much extra worthless crap. It's amazing. In conclusion, Word sucks (for saving web pages) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia_Jabba Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 omg notepad lmao...i bet i could kick your ass in web design if u use notepad and i use dreamweaver...its just so tedious and useless...I know html...and I can tell u only people who have NOTHING else to do use notepade and stuff...pure html the best please...its just for those really big headded feaks who think highly of themselves when they can say I typed all my stuff...lol ok why u spend 3 hours typing it...i'll spend 5 minutes designing and go do something else and have it up on the web in no time...lmao NOTEPAD the best LMAO LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOneCanoli Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 FYI, I merged your two threads from the Valley and the Swamp into one thread. The Valley is for JKII discussion and the Swamp is for everything else, including web pages. As for your question about Frontpage. Frontpage is something you have to acually buy from Microsoft in their MS Office thing. It's a lot of money. I'd suggest sticking to free things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanMO Posted April 9, 2002 Author Share Posted April 9, 2002 Thanks. I understand that i can create something to be uploaded in word pad for instance, but how to add links for instance. I have never created a web page and obviously word pad doesnt have any tutorials. so im looking for a program that also offers templates and tutorials. Maybe i will look at zdnet for some programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyOneCanoli Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 Well, I'm no expert, but I've tried Claris Homepage 3.0 before. It had a simple tutorial for making pages. And if you search on the net, I'm sure there are hundreds of great tutorials on HTML about how to make stuff from notepad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 Notepad for when I do straight HTML...although that's pretty scarce nowadays. Most of my web design time is spent on PHP and MySQL queries. For all you coding gurus and notepad fans: Programmer's Notepad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia_Jabba Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 I was going to learn cgi but it got really boring...anyone else w/ the same feelings...I love flash though its really fun to see your stuff come out. I just dont see why people do the hardcore coding...I guess its the same reason people buy trucks and dont even use the dang thing to haul stuff. Looks cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 Perl and PHP are great skills to know. Don't try to learn it all at once. Just start a small project and learn it as you need it. I've been thinking of adding flash to my languages-roster...know of any good resources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forhekset Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 Frontpage is a POS. If you don't know HTML well enough to code by hand, go with a program like Dreamweaver. Anything but Frontpage. Yecch. matt-windu, check out http://www.flashkit.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forhekset Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 Originally posted by Mafia_Jabba omg notepad lmao...i bet i could kick your ass in web design if u use notepad and i use dreamweaver...its just so tedious and useless...I know html...and I can tell u only people who have NOTHING else to do use notepade and stuff...pure html the best please...its just for those really big headded feaks who think highly of themselves when they can say I typed all my stuff...lol ok why u spend 3 hours typing it...i'll spend 5 minutes designing and go do something else and have it up on the web in no time...lmao NOTEPAD the best LMAO LMAO Any code you spit out of a program like Dreamweaver is going to be bloated compared to what someone produces by hand in Notepad (if they know what they're doing). Not knocking Dreamweaver, I like the program a lot myself, but it doesn't produce the cleanest code in the world by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt-- Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 Thanks, Forhekset. I'll check that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanMO Posted April 10, 2002 Author Share Posted April 10, 2002 Do you mean I can write HTML in word pad . Or do I have to have another program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forhekset Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 You can write HTML in Wordpad, and just save your documents with the extension .HTML or .HTM, etc., but if you're going to use a text editor you could just as well use Notepad. Although if you're going to do something like code by hand there are way better editors than Notepad, like UltraEdit. Just don't try and use Word for writing HTML, whatever you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia_Jabba Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 ok...clean? so..im saving a few hours lmao and? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forhekset Posted April 10, 2002 Share Posted April 10, 2002 Originally posted by Mafia_Jabba ok...clean? so..im saving a few hours lmao and? Like I said, I think Dreamweaver is a great program and in fact I use it quite regularly. However, to the trained eye, the code generated by a WYSIWYG program is nearly always bloated and borderline sloppy compared to svelte, sleek handcrafted code (at least by my standards). If your code gets TOO sloppy, you may be nearly doubling the size of your pages, increasing loading times for visitors, unnecessarily eating bandwidth... The rational balance is, of course, to use a program like Dreamweaver to quickly generate templates for your website, then go in and hand-edit your code as needed... But for old guys like myself, there's a special feeling you get when you start out with a blank window in Notepad and painstakingly hand-craft something from scratch. Plus that way when something strange happens with your site, you can be sure it's something YOU did - you need not guess at what your WYSIWYG program might have done to your code. I type insanely fast as well, so maybe coding by hand is more of a hinderance for you than it is for me. At any rate, whatever works best for you, is what you should use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanMO Posted April 10, 2002 Author Share Posted April 10, 2002 Well i just went and wrote a basic page in html on word pad. there are alot of tutorials html. its just what im lookng for right now. and its free. God if a had known I could do it i would have done it sooner. the page needs alot of fine tuning but i just wanted to get it up and see if it would work. the first time i put it up it didnt work. ?? then i changed the way I save the the document(simple text as opposed to rich text format) and it worked. woot. I just need to create a basic site with text and some simple images. and of course a bunch of links. word pad shuold be fine for me. front page and dreamweaver are both over $200. way to much for what i need. once i get the basics down(and some more money ) i might sring for a program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanMO Posted April 10, 2002 Author Share Posted April 10, 2002 Oh ya and that good feeling your talking about from creating it from a blank page. yep . i hear ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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