Tchouky Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Ok I'm sure you have the skin and you're waiting for the sdk to create your sliver dual-phase lightsaber ! BUT ... do you play with telekinethic powers like : force push force pull force jump and saber throw..... just wondering..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antilles98 Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Sure do. He was able to do that after he absorbed energy. And since we can't absorb laser fire in this game, a little lee-way is allowed (in my book). AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creston Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Is it me, or is Corran Horn (AFTER the Xwing series) sorta like the new Luke SkyWalker Meets Han Solo Meets Wedge Antilles or something? I mean, in every set of books, they injured Luke so he wouldn't just forcewhip every bad guy's ass, he was just too powerful. But Corran, nooo, he doesn't get nerfed every story, he just keeps running around being all 733T with his supercool lightsaber, wasting Yuuzhan Vong left and right, marries the chick everybody wants, is the best Xwing pilot etc etc etc. Hellooo?? {/useless rant mode} Creston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Av8tor Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Not really, he is one of the weakest jedi in all of the new books and while he is my favorite character besides kyp durron, he is not the best pilot. read the first four X-wing books. Both wedge and bror jace out fly him. On the pluss side he is likely the smartest and most charming of the newer characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMouse Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 Married the chick everyone wants? I think if you took a poll, you'd find a lot more people would want Mara... I love the character. I have ever since his first published adventure back on Garqi. The pictures of him in that first appearance in the Star Wars Adventure Journal actually look a heck of a lot like me! ~JediMouse~ Oh yeah, and I was really peeved at the Vongs' lack of honour in destroying Ithor anyway... what an incredible duel scene! (Can anyone remind which book it was in? They all kinda blur together after a while...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuRn Posted April 11, 2002 Share Posted April 11, 2002 it was the second Dark Tide book Dark Tide: Ruin Corran is great becuase hes not the perfect jedi, not the best pilot, but he has alot of emotion and depth. he always does the heroic thing, hes a smartass, really intelligent guy, and doesnt always likes to fight but when he does watch out if you also notice the only author that writes about him is Michael Stackpole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMouse Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Without doubt, without peer, the best author ever to take on the Star Wars mythos. Even including Timothy Zahn. Even including Alan Dean Foster. He's equally skilled and at home centering a story around the technology of the Star Wars galaxy, like the _X-wing_ books, or the magic of the Star Wars galaxy, like _I, Jedi._ You'll notice when he puts words into the mouths of characters we already know, they seem to belong there -- things we, the fans, believe they might say. Sorry, started to gush a bit, there. Just a real big fan. ~JediMouse~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted April 13, 2002 Share Posted April 13, 2002 Oh, man, Michael Stackpole's SW books are simply the tip of the iceberg of his talent. Have you ever read any of his original stuff? Try his book Talion: Revenant, and you will wonder why you ever thought Tolkien was good. Seriously, he just blows other authors out of the water. When I pick up one of his books, I can count on finishing it in under a week. They are just that good. And, if you haven't noticed, I too think he is the greatest author of SW or anything else. Just read Talion: Revenant and you will see what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMouse Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Is _Talion: Revenant_ part of a series? Is it the first one? I wouldn't want to accidentally pick up a series in the middle (like, say, Episode IV....) ~JediMouse~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 No, it is a stand alone book, that is so good, people want a sequel. It is the first Original book that he ever got published, and is still possibly his best. The other one that is on par with it is The Dark Glory War. That is a series but the first one in it. There are gonna be four books in the series - The DragonCrown War Cycle - but right now, he only has Dark Glory War and Fortress Draconis out with the last two in the works. So, if you are breaking into his original works, start with Talion: Revenant. It's a stand alone book that will have you hooked and wanting more. After that, you could either try the DragonCrown War books (I read Dark Glory War four times) or go for another one of his stand alone books - Once a Hero. Now, there's a book that will grab you and not let go. It has a sort of wierd plot that centers around a legendary sword destined to win the user an empire and the human who happens to win it over. It has this incredible forbidden love story too. But, don't let that turn you away, usually, I avoid gushy stuff, but this one is just incredible. So, you have Mike's style of writing, an incredible plot, a great love story, and a sort of tolerance backing. Really incredible book. You might want to get ahold of it ASAP though, because it just went out of print, so what's at the bookstore is what they have left. If you can't find it, you can buy it directly from Mike at stormwolf.com I have bought from him and he is very good at getting the book(s) to you. But, back to Talion: Revenant, just read it. I have yet to meet anyone that didn't like it. It turned me and my sisters into Fantasy fans, and sort of inspired me to write my own book. So first read that one, then his other ones. All of them are incredible, so you really can't go wrong. A quick warning about Talion: Revenant though: The chapters are set up a little wierd, but it really works. The odd numbered chapters are where the main character, Nolan, is grown up and all, but the even numbered ones are during his childhood. The chapters slowly but surely link up to where by the last chapter the evens have caught up with the odds. It sounds wierd, but it is actually very cool. Just read it and let me know what you think (I have this thing where I like to know if people like what I convince them to read.) So, just feel free to private message me and let me know. Enjoy, they are really one of a kind books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercy Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 i am also a big fan of Mikes works...hell the funny thing about Talion:Revenant is that it was his first actual novel but it was not published for around 8 or 9 years after he started writing...he thought it was to long for people to read and be interested in... man i would love to see him do a whole series on the Talion's...very fascinating world he created there... i havent started his The Dark Glory War...been waiting but i might just have to go buy it now... and I, Jedi just rocked...that was an awesome book, especially how he brings in Luke and then sort of phases him out for a couple of chapters until the end....a very vivid book... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Mahone Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 I'm going ot have to weigh in on the opposition to all the Mike-love being bandied about. I've long considered him a journeyman hack, a gun-for-hire each time some fledgling RPG or somesuch would like to be novelized. I wasn't impressed with his stuff for Star Wars either. To each their own, I wager... ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Well, he was a RPG and computer game designer before writing full time, so it is only fitting that he write for some of the RPGs. I am not an RPG fan, but his Fiddleback Trilogy for the Dark Conspiracy RPG were very good. But back to the subject I've long considered him a journeyman hack, a gun-for-hire each time some fledgling RPG or somesuch would like to be novelized. Getting published for original stuff is hard as it is, so taking a few jobs as a writer for RPG people or Star Wars or Battletech (all of the stuff he is interested in anyway) is very understandable and admirable. Admirable in the fact that he took some really potentially bad and cheesy stuff and made it really good and made it his own. I can't say that I wouldn't do the same thing in his shoes. And, now, with his name out there on so many things in other peoples universes, and so many fans of those works, his original stuff has a greater chance of selling better. So, in short, this "journeyman hack/gun-for-hire" has really made himself successful through accepting jobs to write in others universes therefore opening himself to more people when he does original work. So, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you shouldn't call names and make him sound like some bum on the street accepting half a hamburger just for contracting freelance to write in others universes that he is a fan of in the first place. So that's that. Now, go ahead and tell me truthfully, that you wouldn't accept an offer from Del Rey to write a Star Wars story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkbroiler Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 So Corran is supposed to be this charmer, handsome, the to last, a big MAN THING? Have you ever noticed how ugly he is on the cover of I, Jedi? It's horrific! almost as ulgy as this bith! (good idea for a poll, jedi mouse) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Mahone Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by JediKnight_114 Well, he was a RPG and computer game designer before writing full time, so it is only fitting that he write for some of the RPGs. I am not an RPG fan, but his Fiddleback Trilogy for the Dark Conspiracy RPG were very good. WAR Wasteland But back to the subject So, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but you shouldn't call names and make him sound like some bum on the street accepting half a hamburger just for contracting freelance to write in others universes that he is a fan of in the first place. So that's that. Now, go ahead and tell me truthfully, that you wouldn't accept an offer from Del Rey to write a Star Wars story. You mistake my emphasis. It's not on the journeyman part, it's on the hack part. I've read his stuff for several lines, and I've never found it to be very impressive. He's a mediocre talent but has done well with it. Now, while there's something to be said for that, it doesn't make up for his writing ability, which is what we're discussing here. He's not some bum on the street by any means. But he's no Aasimov either, not by a long stretch. Would I accept a writing job at Del Rey for a SW story? Yes. Point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Xwing Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 I don't know if its possable but did you all remember when corran was fighting the vong in a duel on Ithor? Well he has a trick lightsaber, when he hits the activation switch a certain way the blade extends to double the length of a normal lightsaber ...now that would be cool if someone comes up with a mos to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Seeker Posted April 15, 2002 Share Posted April 15, 2002 You mistake my emphasis. It's not on the journeyman part, it's on the hack part. I've read his stuff for several lines, and I've never found it to be very impressive. He's a mediocre talent but has done well with it. Now, while there's something to be said for that, it doesn't make up for his writing ability, which is what we're discussing here. Again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and he can't please everyone I guess, but personally, I think he is the best author that I have ever read. The ability to make a character feel real to the reader and have the reader actually care about the character(s) is a feat rarely acomplished by authors, but Stackpole pulls it off nearly every time. I mean, when I'm talking about characters in his books, it's almost like I'm talking about real people because that is how he makes them feel. Then, there are the plots themselves; stories that hit home in people and are stories that we can relate to. Stories that are so engrosing and gapless that they could very well be a part of unsung history. Then, there are the action sequences in the books. Some books, IMO are made or trashed with how well an author can pull off a fight scene. Why? Because there is so much happening at once especially in a grand battle, so to find the ballance and be able to focus on the main character's exploits in the battle while simultanously showing the incredible scale of what is going on and giving some other characters some description but never straying too far from the main character is another one of those things that is hard to come by. For example, I am reading the Lord of the Rings Trilogy right now, and have been kind of dissappointed. The story, plot and setup is incredible, but the execution of it all is just lacking. Tolkien seemed to focus far more on the surroundings' every little detail (which is why the movie looked so great) rather than character developement. The characters all seem to feel like just a few personalities who share multiple bodies. He never delved into what they were thinking, how a situation affected them, never gave background other than in bits of stilted dialog. I never so far have been able to sympathise or care for the characters. Like when Boramir died I didn't feel sad or upset or anything or even dissappointed, but more of just indifferent to it and hoped that the story picked up after. His battle scenes are just pathetic. He never actually focuses on a confrontation but more on a sideline character who was hiding or out of the action. Example: When Boramir died it was through the eyes of Aragorn. But, Aragorn wasn't part of the battle. He came running when he heard the horn, but got there too late. So, we see dead Orcs scattered about, Legolas with an empty quiver and Gimli with a bloodied and notched axe, but we saw none of the kills that led to this outcome. If done differently, we could have seen Boramir valiantly defending the hobbits which would have redeemed him and let us sympathize with him when he died and therefore feel for him.] But what do we get instead? A calm dead strewn battlefield and never got to feel the battle. The movie did it perfect though, so I suppose that is why I was a bit dissappointed, but there is my standpoint on what makes a book. And compared to Tolkien, Stackpole just seems to win with me. But, there are those who prefer to know what the surroundings look like instead of what the characters are feeling and thinking and what is going on in the surroundings, so again, these are just my feelings on the matter and you have every right to your opinion. But just out of curiosity, have you actually read any of Stackpole's books in full, or just for "several lines?" Would I accept a writing job at Del Rey for a SW story? Yes. Point? The point is that you said that he was a gun for hire since he did so many spinoff jobs (which insinuated) instead of his own stuff, which is where the Del Rey question came in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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