smokejag Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 lightsabers in deathmatch? I've never seen such egoism in a game before. I mean christ you people take it personally beacuse other people use guns and not sabers exclusively, or if you dont use sabers exclusively you're not as good or as much of a "fan" gimmie a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saient Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Yes very true. Like DeTRiTiC-iQ said: "The point is in FFA you have every weapon at your disposal. There shouldn't be people running around only using Sabers, if they want sabers, they can play sabers only. Sabers do have advantage over other weapons in certain situations. But the saber is just another weapon in multiplayer, the saber isn't weak, far from it, its just you have to pick the moment to use it. I am completely against changing the balance of the weapons and force powers, since I don't really see a problem, except that saberists are too damn stubborn to use a gun once in a while. " So for those true Jedi: There are SABER ONLY servers out there!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthtoast Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 I find it funny. These people come into servers and complain when someone shoots them with a gun. Someone tells them that if they want to only use sabers, go to a saber only server. The person says, "Just stop being p*ssies and use lightsabers," I normally use saber because I think it's fun, but when I see that, I go pure guns just to tick them off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joruus Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Yeah I have to agree here. I play CTF pretty much exclusively and the nutballs running at me with their sabers and their force powers really need to get a clue. I understand its a Star Wars based game, but really, theres not gonna be ANY Jedi in JKO MP that can pull off attacking a gunner with his saber and his force powers unless the gunner is just wholly and totally incompetant. There are a dearth of server types out there. So I cannot understand why a saber purist would join a guns server...and then start *****ing about the guns. If I wanna play Jedi, I go to a sabers server, if I want to combine all the aspects of the game, I go to a regular server. Its a simple choice people. If I've got your flag, I'm not gonna throw down my gun and whip out my saber just because your attacking me with yours. Its not logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joruus Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Of course, on the whole, not everyone whines about it. But the ones that do are the same ones that whine about force powers being lame. Typical personality type, they can do anything they want, but if you kill them with something, its lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emon Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 I totally agree with DeT-iQ on that. If you want to play sabers only, play on a ****ing sabers only server! No one is going to stop using guns, and they are by no means wussy, weak, or for newbies. The people who complain are the newbs that are loosing because they won't use guns. All I have to say to those sabers-in-FFA games is: Why don't you... [image removed] [Edit - Stormy - no need to be unfriendly. ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|HfH|Tsavong La Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Smoke? Is that you? !CC! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiSilverthorn Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 I agree with you about whining about people who use guns (andd whining in general)but I disagree with you about the built-in balance of the sabers vs guns. ESPECIALLY in CTF!!! This has been mentioned in another thread about posible patch ideas, etc, but it should be made more realistic in that if somebody is carrying heavy firepower they shouldn't be able to move as freely and as fast as somebody just wielding a saber. If a patch or a mod would come out modifying the speed you can run while carrying a gun that would go a LONG way towards balancing the play....That way you would get a fair mix of both types of play (Sabers and Guns) as it is now in CTF you basically HAVE to play with guns because somebody carrying a gun can run just as fast as a saberer and blast them to kingdom come....It doesn't matter as much in FFA (the point then is to kill any way possible) BUT in CTF it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic_series Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by smokejag lightsabers in deathmatch? I've never seen such egoism in a game before. I mean christ you people take it personally beacuse other people use guns and not sabers exclusively, or if you dont use sabers exclusively you're not as good or as much of a "fan" gimmie a break. only a lamer would complain about people using lightsabres in a game. the whole point of jedi knight is that lightsabres are above guns, but some guns are overpowered right now, can you say alt fire repeater rifle ? using a lightsabre in a ffa and beating people with guns would usually suggest that the person with the lightsabre is better. what's harder ? using a melee weapon or a ranged weapon ? obviously ranged weapon, especially considering those with huge splash damage. lightsabers in deathmatch? I've never seen such egoism in a game before what you think this is quake ? when force powers are disabled, then using sabres and complaining about guns is one thing, but this is jedi knight man, it's not about the guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpTheHotrod Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 "what's harder ? using a melee weapon or a ranged weapon ? obviously ranged weapon, especially considering those with huge splash damage. " I think you mean "what's easier" or "obviously melee weapon" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mIRC Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 I agree with this but if you play with guns you're really wasting your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioHazzard Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 To BAD BRAIN...are all your 5 posts to the same lame site....I have seen better FU NEWBIE animations....just wondering or am I a newbie so f me...LOL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiSilverthorn Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Well not so much as wasting time as wasting money hehehehehe....Why not just play Q3 or some other gun FPS...I play both but prefer sabers and force....It is "JEDI KNIGHT" after all....But that is just my preference.....I just wish there was a better balance in Sabers vs Guns.....In the movies a Jedi could go up against most gun wielding enemies with impunity and those they couldn't they should at least be able to run away from. In my mind changing the speed and manuverability of big gun carriers would strike a good balance....But I doubt it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.B.M.C. Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by arctic_series only a lamer would complain about people using lightsabres in a game. And only a lamer would complain about people using guns in a game that allows them. Originally posted by arctic_series the whole point of jedi knight is that lightsabres are above guns, but some guns are overpowered right now, can you say alt fire repeater rifle ? using a lightsabre in a ffa and beating people with guns would usually suggest that the person with the lightsabre is better. what's harder ? using a melee weapon or a ranged weapon ? obviously ranged weapon, especially considering those with huge splash damage. I agree that Lightsabres are above guns. But you're still complaining about weapons here. If you don't want to fight people with guns GO TO A GOD DAMNED SABRE ONLY SERVER! Originally posted by arctic_series what you think this is quake ? when force powers are disabled, then using sabres and complaining about guns is one thing, but this is jedi knight man, it's not about the guns. No, JKII is not quake, but there's a DAMN good reason why Free For All is called Free For All: 'Cause it's a FREE FOR ALL! Stop complaining and whining about people using guns in multiplayer and join a Sabre only server. Sheesh... some people are so [edited]! BYE [Edit - Stormy - no need to insult fellow members ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.B.M.C. Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by PsiSilverthorn Well not so much as wasting time as wasting money hehehehehe....Why not just play Q3 or some other gun FPS...I play both but prefer sabers and force....It is "JEDI KNIGHT" after all....But that is just my preference.....I just wish there was a better balance in Sabers vs Guns.....In the movies a Jedi could go up against most gun wielding enemies with impunity and those they couldn't they should at least be able to run away from. In my mind changing the speed and manuverability of big gun carriers would strike a good balance....But I doubt it will happen. Ahah! A good point (finally). True, there are other games out there with guns and no sabre, why just play them. That's a very good point. You are, however, forgetting one important thing: People are Stupid. It's a universal fact. As a race, people are stupid. People on the Internet are Stupid and Rude! You cut guns out, and people go mental about it. You leave guns in, and people go mental about it. You take out force powers and people go mental about it. You leave force powers in and people go mental about it. We're a stupid bunch of idiotic morons who can never ever be happy. BYE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arctic_series Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by H.B.M.C. And only a lamer would complain about people using guns in a game that allows them. so. where did i ever complain about guns ? I agree that Lightsabres are above guns. But you're still complaining about weapons here. If you don't want to fight people with guns GO TO A GOD DAMNED SABRE ONLY SERVER! no didn't, learn to read. No, JKII is not quake, but there's a DAMN good reason why Free For All is called Free For All: 'Cause it's a FREE FOR ALL! you pretty much just said "why is it woot is woot ? because WOOT IS WOOT !!!. your reasoning skills are beyond poor. Stop complaining and whining about people using guns in multiplayer and join a Sabre only server. Sheesh... some people are so friggin' thick! all i did was outline why it's harder to use a lightsabre, and using one and still kicking ass suggests a more skilled player. no where did i complain about people using guns. there's no point in knowing how to read if you don't understand what you're reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H.B.M.C. Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by arctic_series you pretty much just said "why is it woot is woot ? because WOOT IS WOOT !!!. your reasoning skills are beyond poor. No I didn't. You're the one who has bad reasoning skills. "Woot" has no definition. "Free For All" does. "Free For All" means that "All" are "Free" to do what they want with whatever weapons and powers are available. Some people just don't get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiSilverthorn Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Originally posted by H.B.M.C. You cut guns out, and people go mental about it. You leave guns in, and people go mental about it. You take out force powers and people go mental about it. You leave force powers in and people go mental about it. BYE Well personally I don't want to cut either out....But it does seem to me that if all you wanted to play was guns then there are better choices for your money. This game was supposed to be about Jedi, pure and simple, and guns should be an afterthought. I do hope that Raven does patch the game so that there is some sort of class system to better balance sabers vs guns that way everybody can play the game the way they like and yet be competitive.....I like CTF but as it is now I have to go guns because using saber doesn't work....If you steal the flag and use force speed and saber, all somebody has to do is run up you tail with the power guns and your dead (and they can keep up with you)......If you chase a flag stealer with just a saber and they have a gun they can run just as fast as you so always stay ahead of you and they can turn around, run backwards just as fast, and fire their big gun at you. The conclusion I came to is that saber just does not work in CTF the way it is implemented now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tofu Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 lol robin is kewl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uteboy Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Just to add my 2 cents, I have to admit it's my personal preference to use saber all the time, yes even in (shock, horror) free for all matches, but I have never complained about people using guns. In fact the thing I like the most is trying to take out some one using a gun with my saber. I suck at it, usually end up low in the scores but it's the way I like to play. However if I was going to whine about something ( and please note that the following is not a whine merely a speculation on a topic that I might find to whine about ) it would be that only those using sabers are able to use force powers. ie. select a gun and your force powers are temporarily disabled. switch back to the saber and they work again. Not that I'm whining of course. There you go guys, feel free to flame me to your hearts content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessliar Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Indeed, Robin is positively hunky. He doesn't need moulded plastic to improve his physique. Just to see what would happen, I recently tried using neither guns nor the saber and sticking with det packs, trip mines and thermal detonators. Some saber kid still kept telling me not to use guns, so I pointed out that I wasn't and blasted him off a ledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrazyAce Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 Hey, tsavong lah, from Tribes 2 right? Remember me? Ah, the good ol' !CC! days...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverWalker Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 I play almost exclusively saber, and the main server I play on is CTF, AND I almost exclusively use Heavy style. 90% of the time, I kick serious butt, sometimes capturing several times, and really, I don't mind weapons in general, I find it funny as hell when someone stands there shooting at me with a blaster rifle and lets me kill them with their own shots, or rockets at me and (if a good share of the timing still being luck) I force push them right back at them, the main complaint I have, is the repeaters secondary fire, I am a tad idealistic, and I think a person properly skilled using force and saber should be able to beat any of the other weapons, on yavin especially, using JUST saber and force, with a little fancy footwork, and a smidge of luck, I've managed to cap the flag, going around and being chased by several enemies, but making it all the way back, forward sumersaults, strategically timed non-force jumps, erratic pathing, and knowing the map enough to at times run backwards so you can deflect their shots, can make a world of difference. edit: oh yeah, I also heard someone seem to think that trip mines were meant to be placed on the ground... not the wall, any ideas where this came from? I thought the "trip mine" - "trip wire" connection was pretty obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessliar Posted April 14, 2002 Share Posted April 14, 2002 oh yeah, I also heard someone seem to think that trip mines were meant to be placed on the ground... not the wall, any ideas where this came from? I thought the "trip mine" - "trip wire" connection was pretty obvious Yeah, when they're on the floor you can just run around them. It's fun to jump up and put one quite high on the wall, then crouch down and put another one underneath it. Someone comes along, sees the bottom one, tries to jump over it and succeeds in setting off the top one then falling back down onto the bottom one. Boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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