Lucky Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 Yer representing a bunch of kids on these forums that whined for 2 months straight and screwed a game we'd rested 3 years of hopes on. Either disassociate yerself with that side of this issue or continue to get owned up the wazoo for putting forth silly ass ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBJedi Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 What's truly amazing is I actually defended the weapon players - see my Whiner's Guide: "I don't like weapons with force and sabers! Play on saber and force only servers - learn to use ASE: http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/" http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49099 But I'm getting sick of the crying. It's annoying. Sure list problems and all, but don't threaten to abandon the game and don't go saying it's anyone elses fault. If you have problems with the patch, take it to dev, don't blame the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBJedi Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 Originally posted by Lucky Yer representing a bunch of kids on these forums that whined for 2 months straight and screwed a game we'd rested 3 years of hopes on. Either disassociate yerself with that side of this issue or continue to get owned up the wazoo for putting forth silly ass ideas. Other than the smart ass comment about Quake 3 - I haven't said anything anti-weapon. This is funny. Every single suggestion I've emailed to dev were all: SERVER SIDE OPTIONS. I even asked for a: g_spsaber 1 or 0 Etc... OPTIONS. Get it straight before you accuse one of your biggest supporters about something he didn't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuFFuS Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 (edited...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD_ToRMeNt Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 (edited also) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCS_Moltisanti Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 OK i just heard about this patch. ITS RIDICULOUS. You guys at raven want to help out the struggling MP community? Then learn that sabers and guns dont mix to make this this big hybrid game. Its one or the other basically-- and this patch only hinders both areas of the game. ESPECIALLY guns. If servers update this POS then im not playing jk2 anymore. What happened to maybe a new map or so? God help something that fjorking easy. Or possibly some help to modders?!?? b/c they are the only hope for the screwy details that plague the game and its dwindling players already! You just cant ignore the competetive clans really making a stir about this raven. BEING in those clans is a clear show that we care about the game more than anyone else -- We put that much time into it -- ignoring the flaws to boot. This patch has nothing to do with anyone buying it off the shelf by now. So this patch = us. (the competitive community). AND NOW you are SHAFTING US!!!!??? f*ck me i dont understand. -- morphine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBJedi Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 The name is a complete joke, and you have no idea what my true opinions are. It's amazing you are flaming me for supporting you against all the flamers - making the Whiner's Guide. Absolutely amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 Its the communities fault man, have you ever seen any of us outside of torm whining about anything in this game to date? The reason we're speaking up now is because the damn developers listened to all the kids on these forums who couldn't figure out how to play an fps. We're 'counter-whining' and it seems to be tried and true method of getting a gripe fixed. The problem stems from the utter ineptitude this patch introduces in ctf and every other gameplay type outside of dueling. Drain is actually a detriment. Its like a negative force power. I've never used drain before, but the idea that you can use a power and it can have absolutely no advantage other than eating yer mana is preposterous. You might as well jump up and down while alternating push and pull towards a wall. And what about the lack of ammo for the ranged weapons? Its not that we don't want you to use yer saber effectively, its that we need to be able to defend a flag and that gets really hard to do when it takes more than 3 minutes to kill someone. These are completely legitimate concerns, and we aren't people that tend to get whiny, its that we can see, already, that this game taken to its logical progression with the patch included, doesn't go very far. Every ctf match has been reduced to a bunch of random and unrelated events. They shoud'v made the saber *more* effective and not made everything in the game less effective. It just serves to slow down gameplay to a stupifying crawl. Its like trying to CTF with bryars now. We used to make jokes back in JK about 'underwater nf fists' and thats about what the patch makes this game. Its ridiculous. So see our side, realize we're not the types to go b!tching about somthing in a game we play unless there's a serious inadequacy somewhere. The whole idea behind our skill is that we think a crapload about what we do, and therein lies the problem. We have the foresight to see that this patch is *bad*. Lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 As for the rest of u, lay of the kid, he had no idea who he was picking a fight with. He's never once posted anything negative about the game, however he's supporting the g'damn patch. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 there was more complaint before the patch than there is now... so for the time being, you guys are a minority. by all means, state what you dont like about it, but please dont mindlessly spam calling people 'faggotsticks' and attacking raven and lucasarts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBJedi Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 Originally posted by Lucky [so see our side, realize we're not the types to go b!tching about somthing in a game we play unless there's a serious inadequacy somewhere. The whole idea behind our skill is that we think a crapload about what we do, and therein lies the problem. We have the foresight to see that this patch is *bad*. Lucky Fair enough. I apologize for criticizing you and your fellow gun players. I don't play gun servers myself, for that I just play Quake 3 (hence the rude comment I should not have made). I've been against the newbie whiners since I logged on this board and now everyone is calling me a newbie whiner - which just really surprises me. I didn't want the game changed at all! I only wanted server side options for people who wanted differences in things. That's why I wrote the Whiner's Guide - doesn't anyone see that? I don't see, other than my joke of a name, why I'm being targetted at all. Let me make it clear again - to everyone except Lucky who already does understand this: "I NEVER ASKED FOR GAMEPLAY CHANGES - I ASKED FOR OPTIONS TO DISABLE/ENABLE CERTAIN THINGS". I refrain from any further comments on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 oh and by the way, if this thread continues to go downhill, its being closed. play nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 I think we're gonna keep chiding raven for bowing to the people on this forum, whether we can keep our posts clean depends on the replies we get. Sympathize a bit gonk, I'm sure you can appreciate how angry we are. Lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuFFuS Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 *sigh allright newbjedi, i realise your just tryin to do yer part for the jk2 comunity.. however for next time.. picking a fight with a gunner = very stupid cause the rest of the pack will mess you up, you mess with one of our wolves.. (edit-Gonk- ruffus. please refrain from avoiding the language censor. not my fault man. i swear in games a fair bit online... but this is a family place. gotta keep it cool for the 'n00bs' man.. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 Yeah newb, think you confused us with yer posts, I fer one will try to redirect my anger at someone more deserving. Namely, whoever frickin came up with the idea for this patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GonkH8er Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 I understand you're not happy with the patch, but a lot of people are. Raven asked for community feedback. They got it. This is their first patch. If it turns out sour, theyll revert back. There'll be more patches. If you want things changed, send a ravenite an email saying what, or in a 'patch request' thread The patch was made for the community, not for individual players or groups. Most of the adjustments were saber based. So if you're a gunner, you didn't get the short end of the stick as far as adjustments go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DarthMaulUK Posted May 7, 2002 Share Posted May 7, 2002 Im closing this as its all going round in circles. I also suggest that people watch what they say in the future. Everyone has a right to air their views -in a PROPER manner - I will not allow silly personal attacks - you have been warned. DMUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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