GileS__l7l Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Sigh. When the beer tastes good, don't water it down. The tempo, style, and gameplay of JKO has been changed so drastically with this patch that I personally don't enjoy the game anymore. Did all the whining newbs that didn't know how to get out of a griP™ or avoid being drained cry enough for this to happen to an insanely fun game? So what if the one hitter was powerful, or you could griP™ off a ledge...experienced players can avoid these things, and I am one of them. Instead of screwing with the game mechanics, why not just make more maps like BGJ where you cant griP™ someone off a ledge? Or tweak force powers that SUCK like some light-sides instead of killing the ones that make the game fun?? Now what was an even paced game has been transformed into a watered down-swinging-fest that is more reminiscent of it's ancient predecessor. I think I would rather go play Jedi Knight, the force powers are now similar and so is the saber fighting. And it aint 49.99...since the patch has changed the game so drastically, I would like to claim dissatisfaction with the product and receive a prompt refund. LucasArts/Raven, are you listening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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idlemind Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I hate the new patch for reasons I have mentioned on numerous previous occassions. mostly because saber fighting, no matter what people say, is worse now. There is so much blocking and so many "pretty flashes of lights oooooo" that i have no idea if i just hit the other guy, or if he just hit me. Was the saber fighting really so bad in 1.02 that they had to completely overhaul. And to everyone who says it's really not that different, did you even play the game before today? The only way you could not notive a drastic change is if you used to just run around spinning in yellow or blue, instead of performing controlled combos. There are no more controlled combos, everything gets blocked which interrupts the combos. Or the combos have become so slow that they are useless because someone will just throw their saber at you. So you end up just rushing them with blue or yellow like a headless chicken. Please make saber fighting back to what it used to be. I can't see how anyone who used to play before today can honestly say they like this system better. I really don't think they are human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GileS__l7l Posted May 8, 2002 Author Share Posted May 8, 2002 Amen, brother, sing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
failsaf3 Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I think this is actually the Beta that was accidentally released as a patch. What am I saying, I think Raven originally intended for saber fights to happen with your opponent charging you backwards hoping to land a reverse spinning slash- just like the movies!!! Saber is now lame. Force is now lame. Game is now lame. I'll now be sure to tell friends to save their $50. Hey Raven just in case I forgot.................Thanks for ruining a halfway MP decent game. My JKII disc can now keep JKI disc company in the back of my closet!!! Thanks again guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rut-wa jodar Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 WHINERS !!!!!!!! If you don`t like it ..... MOVE TO RUSSIA :violin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaberPro Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Originally posted by rut-wa jodar WHINERS !!!!!!!! If you don`t like it ..... MOVE TO RUSSIA :violin: Sounds like you're a racist, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 The patch has totally screwed up the balance of the game. The patch is the direct result of all the WHINING that went on on these forums. What should we do? they screwed it up, apparently whining is the only way to get anything across to the developers. Sitting here and silently hoping that the competitive scene somehow survives is just ridiculous. Lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaberPro Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I wonder why Raven tweaked the hold DFA (heavy stance 1-hitter)... cuz people are whining and moaning and b*tching about it on the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rut-wa jodar Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Originally posted by SaberPro Sounds like you're a racist, no? Sounds like you're on drugs, no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaberPro Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Originally posted by rut-wa jodar Sounds like you're on drugs, no ? A little translation from your quote: WHINER, MOVE TO RUSSIA, therefore, you're concluding all Russians are whiner, no? what makes you think that? And now let me re-ask YOUR question: Sounds like you're on drugs, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samiam Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I hate the patch with a passion. N00bs rejoice (they are the only ones that like it because they can actualy kill someone now). I won't be playing MP until they fix this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rut-wa jodar Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Now who`s putting words into peoples mouths ? That`s only your translation. not mine.... sounds like you have spat your dummy out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tam Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 god. u guys asked for sp saber combat. and they brought it to u. and now that u were too used to mp combat and dont wanna get used to sp combat again u hate them? gah. you guys whine at everything. no matter what they do, you people just find 1 single flaw in the game, and start to complain. god. u people make me sick. u wanna do better guys? go and make ur own jk game and we'll see how many complaints u get from it. on the current issue, the combat is good still. but to satisfy both people in the next patch, why not just make an option for sp style combat and mp style combat for the dedicated server admins. so they decide if they want the new combat or the old combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rut-wa jodar Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Originally posted by tam god. u guys asked for sp saber combat. and they brought it to u. and now that u were too used to mp combat and dont wanna get used to sp combat again u hate them? gah. you guys whine at everything. no matter what they do, you people just find 1 single flaw in the game, and start to complain. god. u people make me sick. u wanna do better guys? go and make ur own jk game and we'll see how many complaints u get from it. on the current issue, the combat is good still. but to satisfy both people in the next patch, why not just make an option for sp style combat and mp style combat for the dedicated server admins. so they decide if they want the new combat or the old combat. WELL PUT !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksider Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Here, I brought a platter of cheese to go with your whines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaberPro Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Originally posted by rut-wa jodar Now who`s putting words into peoples mouths ? That`s only your translation. not mine.... sounds like you have spat your dummy out Aren't language an united communication tool? I bet most of the people see it like I do (proves you're on drug) and rephrase what you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 *cough* ctf is nearly unplayable now *cough* *cough* couldn't give less of a sh!t bout which system they use for sabers *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zufuss Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 btw there was not a mass calling for reducing ammo in ctf. when you play ctf guns are all thats used. The patch is great...give those lame ctf'ers their ammo back and all is fine. cept the janitors that do nothing but sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 There was a mass of people wanking for the saber to be the uber weapon, and another mass of mostly the same people wanking for it to be more cinematic/sp like, and another mass of mostly the same people complaining about DFA and heavy stance. All of those people got my g'damn guns nerfed, ruined ctf, and generally managed to cajole raven into seriously screwing up the game. Now sabers are more cinematic, even less balanced against guns, there are even more ridiculous exploits, and the guns are somehow ineffective enough to keep us from playing CTF, mainly due to ridiculous ammo constraints. On top of that, they nerfed the forces in such a way that THEY'RE unbalanced as well. Essentially all the whining scared Raven into a reactionary position that screwed the game up for just about everyone. Its like fighting with wiffle bats and squirt guns. I have more fun flicking lint. At least it looks pretty and cinematic and I can roleplay that I'm luke skywalker if I ever lose my mind =P Lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krak3n Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Originally posted by failsaf3 Saber is now lame. Force is now lame. Game is now lame. I'll now be sure to tell friends to save their $50. hmm, don't like it? then go and play somthing else and quit your whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaming Nut Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I'd like them to chaneg some things but suppsoe I can live with it. People that call anyone with a complaint a whiner. Need to shut up it never seems to cross these morons minds that they might have vaild compliant and that half the itme they where the ones complaining before something changed. its also their opinoin not yours. What I like: drain nerfed heal nerfed maybe they where nerfed to much but they certainly needed to be toned down, Better looking saber fights. What I dislike: Grip nerfed it was fine, The lameness of saber combat say what you will but random swinging works better then slow well placed shots well now, turbo blocking makes combos **** as they just get blocked, still hard to tell if you’ve hurt a person, the guns wheren’t bad IMO as said CTF is now very hard to play its gonna have to be CTY now since you can’t use the forces when you have it, janitors nuf said. As you can see the bad outweighs the good atleast for me it may not have ruined it thou it’s less fun. Also theirs frankly no other game out their that simulates melee combat with long swords. Ill still play thou I bet that clone campgains will take up more of time then JK2 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Skyw@lker Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Originally posted by Hateplow OH YEAH WE KNOW IT;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tam Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 god, will u guys stop complaining. do what i did, dont hate it, suggest things to improve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uteboy Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 Of course there is also the possibility that after noting some of the comments on these boards and elsewhere, that Raven actually went and EXTENSIVELY PLAYED THE GAME THEMSELVES to figure out which parts of it needed balancing/altering. I very much doubt they altered the things they did just because some people complained about it. It would only have given them ideas as to what needed looking at. The decision for change I am sure would have come from their vision of what makes the game better/more playable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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