Ascari Posted May 15, 2002 Share Posted May 15, 2002 I read on a thread that someone mailed Mr. Gummelt about a next patch and he said that there wasnt going to be a next patch. So I decided to write an e-mail to mr. Gummelt myselve and here is how he responded: E-mail: Thank you for your time and quick response, This might put an end to the rumours on the forums. Sincerely, Paul Rispens >From: "Gummelt, Mike" <******@ravensoft.com> >To: 'Paul Ris' <paul_rispens@hotmail.com> >Subject: RE: Jedi Knight 2 >Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:14:50 -0500 > >Can't say either way, that kind of decision is not made by me. If there is >not a patch, I plan on working on a mod on my own time. And you *can* quote >me on that if you like. > >Michael Chang Gummelt >Gameplay Programmer: Jedi Knight II >Raven Software >http://www.ravensoft.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul Ris [mailto:paul_rispens@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:59 PM >To: ******@ravensoft.com >Subject: RE: Jedi Knight 2 > > >Let me start of by saying Hi! > >I just read the most disturbing news on the lucasforums moments ago in which > >they quoted an e-mail from u, in which u said that there will be no more >official patches for JK2. > > >I certainly hope this is just a hoax created by this user. > > > >In awaiting for your response, > > >Sincerely, > > >Paul Rispens > > > [/Quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrazMan Posted May 15, 2002 Share Posted May 15, 2002 Thanks for your time in trying to clear that up. I too emailed mr. gummelt to question this. I've heard nothing from it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascari Posted May 16, 2002 Author Share Posted May 16, 2002 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demise_SOK Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 How does this end the rumor? All I see is a vague answer to your question and a certain 'yes' answer to making mods if Raven doesn't patch again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippo Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 A mod from the company that made the game? Why not just IMPROVE THE GAME! Why did they change it in the first place, all that was needed was a few bug fixes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBJedi Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Dom_Pmd] Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 Pffftttt.... I never believed the rumor in the first place... so I'm totally indifferent on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 Agreed, Dom. Although this email just reinforces my beliefs. ShockV1.89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAtM Trev Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 It's comforting to know. The reason about the official patch is that it is not Raven's call entirely. LucasArts has a say in it. Though I wouldn't think either company would leave a faulty product out there (the backstabs are oversights, they were supposed to be nerfed along with the rest of sabers as comforting at that is, ugh) So even if no official patch makes it out, we'll get our fixes. I think by mod he means self-created patch. Woohoo is all I have to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 Raven does not seem to release a lot of patches for their games. They only released 2 for Elite Force and the second was used for the expansion pack to bring the original up to the same version number. I would say we may get 1 more patch if we are lucky but I do not think we will see it too soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairAthlete Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 Just when I'm thinking we'll never get a patch, even WORSE happens. They actually go and make a patch that really *(*@#'s things up. Thanks once again. And no, i'm not a newbie that has trouble killing by any means. If they wanted to get rid of "1 hit kills" they just made that situation three times as bad with other problems thrown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockV1.89 Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 They actually go and make a patch that really *(*@#'s things up. I'm not sure what you're saying. Either you're talking about 1.03, in which case thats old news. Or..... You're talking about an as yet nonexistent patch (1.04?), in which case you have no real grounds to be saying this, as we havent the foggiest idea what's going to be in this patch. ShockV1.89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanke4252 Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 1.04 will include penile implants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyth'emos Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 I really dont see how this proves anything ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAtM Trev Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 well in general, Raven has realeased mostly bug-free games. Most patches are to clear up bugs. Since there weren't enough bugs, Raven decided to mess with the game play. I like 1.02 better, but 1.03 ain't horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flippo Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 um yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m64253 Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 That was a bit unclear if you ask me May its not as simple as yes or no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borf Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 yeah, bit iffy : / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 I've a feeling Raven will release at least one more patch. At least, I hope they will, after I informed them of two bugs, one of which could be considered a cheat. And no, I'm not going to go into details until I hear whether there is a v1.04+ or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 I think Raven would have to be pretty ignorant and foolish and inconsistent to not release another patch, so I have a good deal of faith that they will. That being said I'm not sure how much stock I put into this email, as I've read a few fabrications at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xombie Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 I'll say it again for those who are deaf... (vestril, flippo, i'm looking at you) Almost NO developer does a patch unless they are getting paid for it. It is the decision of the owner of the license wether or not the game gets patched. The fact is, a developer cannot stay in business if they use their valuable company time doing things that they aren't getting paid for. Mike being dedicated enough to actually take his own personal time to improve the game is definitely a rare thing in gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascari Posted May 16, 2002 Author Share Posted May 16, 2002 Originally posted by Xombie I'll say it again for those who are deaf... (vestril, flippo, i'm looking at you) Almost NO developer does a patch unless they are getting paid for it. It is the decision of the owner of the license wether or not the game gets patched. The fact is, a developer cannot stay in business if they use their valuable company time doing things that they aren't getting paid for. Mike being dedicated enough to actually take his own personal time to improve the game is definitely a rare thing in gaming. Exactly, that's why I cant understand why some people would fake e-mails of him saying that their will not be another patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 Originally posted by Xombie I'll say it again for those who are deaf... (vestril, flippo, i'm looking at you) Almost NO developer does a patch unless they are getting paid for it. It is the decision of the owner of the license wether or not the game gets patched. The fact is, a developer cannot stay in business if they use their valuable company time doing things that they aren't getting paid for. Mike being dedicated enough to actually take his own personal time to improve the game is definitely a rare thing in gaming. I'm sorry, I seem to be missing your point? What exactly am I deaf about? Should I be more appreciative that Raven patched in the first place? I'm very appreciative, their intentions were marvelous--their execution was piss poor. Am I supposed to believe that this will be the last patch Raven puts out? If that's what you think you really haven't been paying attention. When Raven released 1.03 and tweaked the game around they set a precedent--they essentially said 'we are willing to tweak this game' and by making the changes so drastic, and so obviously related to the complaints of the community at large, they also said 'we are going to make it a game tailored to you, our users' This was a mistake, I believe--it's impossible to satisfy the community, because no matter what they patch, someone will be pissed off, but because of 1.03, they would be out of line if they didn't patch it--that was a buggy and imbalanced release, and again, our precedent on the matter is that Raven will cater to our needs. Was I deaf because I ignored the noble actions of our friendly neighborhood programmer? First off, you must be deaf if you're ignoring the strong possibility that someone just made this up. I mean no offense to anyone here, it's just that there have been a lot[/] of emails from Mike Gummelt that weren't really emails from Mike Gummelt. Secondly, I agree that its an amazing thing, where in my email did I say I thought it was a usual thing?... I think it would be a remarkable thing, and it shows an amazing level of dedication to customer service--IF it's real (and to my mind that's a big if). So...let me know if I missed your point or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NerfYoda Posted May 16, 2002 Share Posted May 16, 2002 Originally posted by Chanke4252 1.04 will include penile implants. Hah wanna bet ppl would find it too big & flood the forums with whiny diatribes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBJedi Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 I have $50 + saying JK2 better be patched. I have another $50 + that can either go toward SOF 2 or another non-Raven or non-LucasArts game. Raven/LucasArts will make my decision for me - patch the game or I buy games from other dev teams and publishers. I don't care how much money it takes .. How much does a reputation cost? Is it up to Raven or LucasArts? I don't care who is responsible at this point. Raven is developing the game and LucasArts is publishing it - whether they pay or beg LucasArts to accept another patch is their problem, not mine. I'm tired of who is to blame or what. Whether it be LucasArts or Raven. If I don't see another JK2 patch that fixes the problems, I will not purchase another game from either of them again - it's that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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