Vestril Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 all you newbs, you think your all hot %$* because you have high post counts but what really matters is the time you've spent here on the fourms. your opinions do not matter much to me, Fnord. Apparently being a long time member doesn't stop you from being a troll, and very rude. Perhaps in the fututure you could offer contructive criticizm instead of randoimly flaming the people you don't like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIO Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 um hate to breack it to you but the dialogue suckedin the origanal movies too thats not wat made them good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nattydred Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Um sorry moron but the dialogue in the originals was far better and more fun and more real. There are no fun characters having witty verbal battles in this movie like you had with Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford. I say it with regret and love, but this movie did suck. And Gosu Chobo: I admire your naivate'. To think the love story was compelling. It was so stiff and poorly acted........sorry i cant stop laughing at the idea you thought that was a good love story! Ever seen a movie with real drama in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GosU-ChoBo Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Originally posted by nattydred And Gosu Chobo: I admire your naivate'. To think the love story was compelling. It was so stiff and poorly acted........sorry i cant stop laughing at the idea you thought that was a good love story! Ever seen a movie with real drama in it? What can I say? I'm a ****ty movie critic. I don't really follow these things, and most of the time I have trouble making a distinction between good and bad acting. Anyway, I never even said it was a good love story. The acting may have been bad, but I'm basing this more on the comic anyway. The idea love story was what I thought was good, not the way it was acted out. And, yes, I have seen one or two movies with real drama in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chastan Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 I think this movie was pretty good..I don't know if it's the best one yet, I think I need to see it again to form my opinion, but I definetely can say it didn't *suck*. If anybody hasn't seen it yet, I still think it's worthwhile to go check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Um sorry moron but the dialogue in the originals was far better and more fun and more real. Calling someone a moron because of an opinion based argument is not the most intelligent thing in the world. George Lucas has never been known for his amazing dialogue, and if you thought the dialogue in the first three movies was real...well lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nattydred Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Vestril The dialogue was funny and lively between Fisher, Hamill , and Ford in the first 3 movies, and better than in AOTC. I doubt if anybody, even someone who loves AOTC would think otherwise. Lol indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Originally posted by nattydred Vestril The dialogue was funny and lively between Fisher, Hamill , and Ford in the first 3 movies, and better than in AOTC. I doubt if anybody, even someone who loves AOTC would think otherwise. Lol indeed. I was laughing at your suggestion that the dialogue was realistic, it isn't--it's always been off a bit, somewhat intentionally at that. My point was and is, that what you are talking about is an opinion, and it is rude of you to debase people because they don't share your opinion. Rude and closed minded. I never said that you are stupid for thinking the dialogue was realistic, just that I rather strongly disagreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicket the Ewok Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Vestril = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkSide Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Yeah I agree with you Vestril. It absolutely makes me laugh my tush off when I read comments like "the dialogue in the original trilogy was sooooooo much better than the prequels" The original trilogy brought us some dramatic and well versed lines, such as: 1) But Uncle Owen, I wanted to go in to Toschi Station and pick up some power converters! (in extremely whiny voice) 2) I love you.....response: I know. (how romantic, eh?) 3) Yub-yub wooooo yub-yub 4) Luke, I am your father........nooooo..that's impossible! *fling* Don't misread me, I love the OT and all its cheesy lines, but to put it forth as some great piece of cinematic screenwriting is way off base. One last point before I run to work, someone above (nattydred, I think) felt sorry for someone cuz they like the love story part of it, and asked them if they'd seen a real drama. Well shoot, Natty, if you were going in expecting An Officer and Gentleman, there is no doubt you'd be disappointed. Star Wars is, never was, and never will be a drama. Star Wars is a fairy tale, plain and simple. George has said it numerous times. His main thrust with the whole series was to give the kids of the current generation a fairy tale in spirit of the old Saturday Flash-Gordonesque serials. Fairy tales don't have good drama, tend to be pretty cheesy, but they aren't structured to be "oscar" caliber stories. Their main objective is teaching children a set of morals or values in a way that they understand and accept. Star Wars is all about good vs evil and making tough choices, but seeing how the right choices can lead to the good, and wrong choices can lead to the evil. Viewed in this light, AOTC fits right in. It is Act 2 of a 6-act fairy tale. We see Anakin start to make bad choices, giving into anger, being prone to fits of arrogance and rage, disobeying direct orders from his "father". We see Amidala discouraging Anakin from them having a secret relationship, that living lies are bad, but at the end, when they make a choice to get married in secret, I can pretty much guarantee you that that will be a BIG factor in Anakin's short future as Jedi and long future as Dark Lord of the Sith. Bad choice leading to bad things It's a fairy tale, plain and simple. Not science fiction, not drama.....it's not like anything we've seen before on the big screen. TDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Spirit Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Originally posted by TheDarkSide at the end, when they make a choice to get married in secret, I can pretty much guarantee you that that will be a BIG factor in Anakin's short future as Jedi and long future as Dark Lord of the Sith. Bad choice leading to bad things i was totally blown away when i read the last sentence about them getting married...i knew theyd do it someday but right then!! i read the sentence, shut the book and said out loud "bl**dy h*ll!" because the sentence just seemed so abrupt! i knew it was the last paragraph but to have something like that said, as if it was a minor detail! Divine Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 you know alot of my friends would dissagree with you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Originally posted by whitedragon you know alot of my friends would dissagree with you guys Huh? which guys? About what? Elaborate, please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDove Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Attachment is forbidden Possession is forbidden You break any of the two (and they have by getting married) you=going down the wrong path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkSide Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Divine, I haven't yet read the novelization, (will start in on it tonight), but when I saw that scene in the movie, I pretty much had the same reaction. I didn't see it coming at all, and definitely didn't expect it to happen in this movie. For me though, it was one of the few things I hadn't found out beforehand, so overall I was pretty excited about it. Here's my early guess as to how this turns out in Episode III: The Jedi find out and demand he either annul the marriage or leave the jedi order behind. He chooses the latter, and Sidious swoops down to cash in. Thru some sort of manipulation (my guess is faking Padme's assassination and a kidnapping), Anakin is tricked into thinking the Jedi have killed Padme and a repeat of The Tusken Raider Incident © will ensue with the Jedi playing the role of the Sand People. Just a guess though! TDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Ok...this is the most anal post I've ever made...but it just irks me because I'm a crazy fool... TDS, I don't think you can use the word absolve the way you did...it doesn't fit... absolve means forgive, or to repent--if you put the word repent in the sentence 'either repent the marraige' it doesn't fit. He could be absolved of the crime of marraige, but not absolved of marraige... I don't usually correct people like this, but you're a smart person who uses good grammar and spelling, and I just feel the need to help you use words correctly. Sorry in advance if this insults you--I mean I would hope people would do the same for me, if I was misusing a word... Bah, I feel like a real ass for this entire post...sorry once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkSide Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Hey no problem Vestril - You're right. I was thinking almost as fast as I was typing on that, and I got caught in a standard trap of mine, trying to find the right word...and getting there by combining two synomyms into a real word. I will spoiler the rest: I got to "absolve" because the two words I was thinking of didn't strike me as the ones I was looking for.....annul and dissolve. Anyways, given that my word choice was the complete opposite of my intent, I appreciate the heads up. I've gone back and edited the word. TDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 Yeah, I do the same thing all the time, more so when I speak because I almost always talk faster than I can think lol. Anyway, I'm glad you weren't insulted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Posted May 17, 2002 Share Posted May 17, 2002 IMO: The first part of AOTC was pretty boring, except for the comedy. Movie picked up near the end though. S p o i l e r: Yoda rocks ass, everyone in the theatre cheered, truly hilarious watching him move so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00M-187 Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by Fnord I suppose Star Wars fans are predetermined to love the next iteration of their all-time favorite saga, but the fact remains for me that EP2 was every bit as flat and uninvolving as the Phantom Menace stinker was last year. I'm not sure what aspect of Star Wars history George Lucas is trying to express with the limp, monotone dialogue in his past two movies, but it doesn't make for a very interesting ride. To be honest, I could really give a whip about what happens to any of these "characters." I want another Han Solo, another Leia, another Lando--not some slap-stick kiddie-pleaser like Jar Jar, but simply a character with a bit more personality than a sack of cabbage. I only finished watching AotC a little over an hour ago, and yet I can't for the life of me think of even one quotable, memorable line from the movie. What happened to the spirit of the original trilogy, George? In short: the Force is weak with this one... You have no imagination and or appreciation of what AOTC is, its a marvel of cinematics\action\drama\romance all in one, AOTC is by far the greatest movie I have ever seen. If you cant appreciate this movie you've got some serios problems, GET HELP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divine Spirit Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by Bungalow S p o i l e r: Yoda rocks ass, everyone in the theatre cheered, truly hilarious watching him move so fast. when you do spoilers can you press the button "Quote" , just above where you type the message, next to "List" and under "COLOR" and them write in the words from there! thanks! Divine Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkSide Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 I only finished watching AotC a little over an hour ago, and yet I can't for the life of me think of even one quotable, memorable line from the movie. Yeaaaaaaah right Fnord. If I read your cliche right, then if some goon came up to you and said 'if you don't tell me a quote from Episode II right now, I'll shoot you ', that you'd end up eating a bullet? I love it when people exaggerate to make a point. To refute your "opinion" of a lack of quotable lines, (you're certainly entitled to anything you want to think), I propose we start listing memorable lines from AotC. I'll kick it off: "Anakin, why do I get the feeling you'll be the end of me?" - Obi-wan Kenobi TDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedragon Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by Vestril Huh? which guys? About what? Elaborate, please... about AotC sucking do you want me to give you their names or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by whitedragon about AotC sucking do you want me to give you their names or something Ah, ok--no I didn't want their names, it's just that when you say 'we would disagree with a lot of you guys' you could be talking about either side of the argument. We're not mindreaders here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 I'll kick it off: "Anakin, why do I get the feeling you'll be the end of me?" - Obi-wan Kenobi "Around the captives, a perimeter create!" --Yoda, being a bad@$$ warlord Oh... and the lamest pick-up line in the galaxy: "I don't like sand... it's rough and coarse and it gets everywhere! Not like you... you're soft..." Jeez... he dreamed of seeing her again for 10 years and he couldn't come up with anything better than that? AotC is a great date movie, because no matter what pick-up line you use, it'll be better than that And, yes, I still love the script! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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