striderx2048 Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Vader can not be revealed to be Anakin Skywalker Amidala is pregent with twins atleast Obiwan supposely fights Anakin* only if Anakin isnt revealed to be Vader. Actually if Obiwan and Anakin fight, then in Ep4 Obiwan cant say that Vader killed Anakin Any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeTRiTiC-iQ Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Yes, you watch the films in the intended order. 4,5,6,1,2,3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Odisse Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by striderx2048 Actually if Obiwan and Anakin fight, then in Ep4 Obiwan cant say that Vader killed Anakin Any others? You need to pay more attention to the conversation Obi-Wan and Luke had in ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverse Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 in the prequels, we will see nothign but foreshadowing EPI "We will be watching your career with great interest" Says palpatine to Anakin EPII "Why do i get the feeling you will be the death of me?" Says obi-wan to anakin ITS RIGHT INFRONT OF YOU PEOPLE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDF h36hYp3r21 Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by Reverse in the prequels, we will see nothign but foreshadowing EPI "We will be watching your career with great interest" Says palpatine to Anakin EPII "Why do i get the feeling you will be the death of me?" Says obi-wan to anakin ITS RIGHT INFRONT OF YOU PEOPLE!! Right on! it seems the whole theater i was in noticed the quote in the bar, it was quite ammusing to hear that knowing that its soooe true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverWalker Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 I think someone flunked kindergarden... honestly though my dad and I had a discussion about ANH and some of the "errors" they tried to repair in ESB and RotJ, like the whole "vader killed your father" thing, personally I think that it would have had more problems if they didn't show it as a "in a manner of speaking" way of saying things, The Saga, is anakin's life story, when all of the episodes, 1-6 are there, theoretically, you should be able to watch them IN THAT ORDER and it still work, several places, like obi-wan seemingly forgetting that leia was around, can be worked in without a big problem, maybe he just didn't consider leia as a potential jedi, but there are not any female human potential jedi anywhere through episode six that I've ever heard of... OF COURSE anakin will turn into vader in episode three, thats like the whole point, only a few friendly people who were ever around anakin before he fell are around in ANH Obi-Wan, Yoda, Owen & Beru Lars, and Padame, Obi-Wan and Yoda were together on not telling luke, owen and beru probably didn't know what happened to anakin later on, and luke was never with padame, so it's no big deal. OF COURSE she will have luke and leia, again, duh, the lack of anyone "knowing" that they are related can be made up for easily, sure, it'll make the kiss and all even MORE awkward for the audience, but there isn't much they can do about that, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyto Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 Nah, I think it'll be perfectly acceptible for the audience to see Anakin's fall. The big 'I am your father' speech is only a surprise to Luke. Although I remember in the cinema at the original release the whole audience drawing breath simultaneously. So now it's just poor Luke who is in the dark. Obi Wan can still tell Luke Vader killed his father, cuz he's a lying bitter twisted failure of a Jedi. Amidala can be revealed to be pregnant to the audience, but it has to be after Anakin turns so he is unaware. Tyto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda_alex Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 anakin has to know that amidala is pregnant, otherwise, how could he know he even has a son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderx2048 Posted May 19, 2002 Author Share Posted May 19, 2002 well anakin can fall to the darkside but certainly cant be reveal to be darth vader. amidala can be pregant, just dont tell everyone its twins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyth'emos Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 and luke was never with padame, actually he was with her far at least nine months, he was just to young to remember it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted May 20, 2002 Share Posted May 20, 2002 Originally posted by yoda_alex anakin has to know that amidala is pregnant, otherwise, how could he know he even has a son. He doesn't know shes pregnant. He knows he has a son cause a guy named Luke Skywalker gains fame as the guy who blew up the Death STar. He makes the connection. A person strong in the force named Skywalker. Who else's son could it be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderx2048 Posted May 20, 2002 Author Share Posted May 20, 2002 its Luke Starkiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 well anakin can fall to the darkside but certainly cant be reveal to be darth vader. Sorry, but James Earl Jones has been signed up for SW3 since the beginning of the Prequel Trillogy--which means the Man in Black will make an appearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by Jedi_Monk Sorry, but James Earl Jones has been signed up for SW3 since the beginning of the Prequel Trillogy--which means the Man in Black will make an appearance That doesn't mean who is behind the mask will be revealed. Lucas has said that someone should be able to watch the movies 1-6 without having any major suprises ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyrit Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 I've seen a LOT of bizzare storylines make sense before...I mean, hey, I'm a huge fan of console RPG's! I'm really thinking that after Anakin gets his injuries, he'll be left for dead...and it's pretty possible that the scene will leave his true fate "off screen"...possibly even imply death. Like, say, a shadow falls over him, and he screams or something. That'd make Obi-Wan's original story(Vader killed Anakin) make some sense...even though the aforementioned "betrayal" will be a bit puzzling since it implies that Vader is already a known being when Anakin ceases to be. Or it could just be that old Ben's lying like a dog in ANH. I wouldn't worry about the movies flowing right...lots of stories have OBVIOUS hints to huge storyline plots...like say how Clark Kent is always gone when Superman shows up. Of course, we the audience know that from the start. But that exact thing is done in the game Xenogears, and when you figure out who the mystery person is, you say "Oh!!! I should have known that, since X wasn't around whenever Y was!" Of course during a second play you see much more than the first... It's possible that the newer generations who watch the movies from 1-6 will say the same thing when Vader makes it known that he was once Anakin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 There are a few things that people want to happen in E3: From all reports JEJ has about 10 minutes of "screen" time in E3, other than that, I don't know any more - other than it will be filmed in Australia once again at Fox Studios. (Yay us!! ) We hope that there will be the famed Obi-Wan v Anakin fight. Remember that by halfway through AOTC, Windu was ready to go to the Senate about the diminished foresight with the Force the Jedi are now experiencing, the Dark side is clouding everything. Perhaps Anakin is already in the head gear/cape BEFORE the fight with Obi-Wan. Although I see that Obi-Wan somehow has an idea that something is wrong with Anakin, he stops feeling him in the Force all of the time. Perhaps some visual clues in Anakin's living quarters as to the Vader costume that Padme may not pick up on. Or he leaves the Jedi order, and soon assumes the alias of Vader, before donning the whole Original Trilogy garb.. So, what Ben is saying about Vader is true, from a certain point of view!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowl lightstar Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 There's gonna be another part that won't work aswell watching the films from 1-6. When luke meets Yoda in ESB, we'll all know it's Yoda (i'm talking from the point of view of someone watching for the first time). Where as when you watch ESB the first time you don't until yoda says "i cannot train him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorus_C'both Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Anakin had to wear the darth vader outfit because he is mortally wounded by obi-wan in combat, and that the outfit is sort of a self-contained life support aparatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leagle Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by Jedi_Monk Sorry, but James Earl Jones has been signed up for SW3 since the beginning of the Prequel Trillogy--which means the Man in Black will make an appearance It means the voice will, not the "man in black". They are different people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inSpiRe- Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by BCanr2d2 Perhaps Anakin is already in the head gear/cape BEFORE the fight with Obi-Wan. the suit was given to anakin by the emperor himself because anakins lungs are toasted and the suit helps him breathe. When Obi Wan fights anakin, anakin gets chucked into lava, burning out half of his body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striderx2048 Posted May 21, 2002 Author Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by inSpiRe- When Obi Wan fights anakin, anakin gets chucked into lava, burning out half of his body. That was the "story" b4 the new trilogy was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by Prowl lightstar There's gonna be another part that won't work aswell watching the films from 1-6. When luke meets Yoda in ESB, we'll all know it's Yoda (i'm talking from the point of view of someone watching for the first time). Where as when you watch ESB the first time you don't until yoda says "i cannot train him." That wasn't exactly a major cliffhanger, like wondering who was behind the mask of DV.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lor20 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Lucas is in no way trying to hide the fact that Anakin will become Vader. Does anyone remember the episode 1 movie poster where Anakin's shadow is cast on the side of his house and the shadow is in the form of Vader? Even if you had never seen the original trilogy I'm positive that you would know who Vader is behind the mask at the end of episode 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Originally posted by Lor20 Lucas is in no way trying to hide the fact that Anakin will become Vader. Does anyone remember the episode 1 movie poster where Anakin's shadow is cast on the side of his house and the shadow is in the form of Vader? Even if you had never seen the original trilogy I'm positive that you would know who Vader is behind the mask at the end of episode 3. That was an advertising gimmick--Lucas has stated that he wants people to be able to watch the movies through without having the major cliffhangers ruined. I will be interested to see if he stands by this, and if so--how, but dismissing it out of hand is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 But then, if they just leave Anakin mortally wounded in Episode III, and then Darth Vader pops up--as he obviously will since JEJ is signed up--how will they explain where Vader came from in a prequel viewpoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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