Darth Matrix Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 LOL! I wish it was that easy where I live. If your no in there beofre the movie starts, your not seeing it, regardless if you bought the ticket (the dopes at the theater oversell). Strange conversation... It went from arguing about Force Powers to talking about how we go and see Episode II... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDove Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Well as long as it's productive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorain8 Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 DUDE SORRY this was one of the last threads i entered after aboiut an hour and i was gettin really pissed off about people mis interpretting the movie i have watched the movie 4 times already IN THE CINEMA hell i went twice opening day! yoda does not eminate his own lightning blot, the 1st time i saw it i thought he did but i realized in the next 3 times he is still trying to reflect it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_Kinnison Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 ya know, the force powers in JKII have nothing to do with how they are in the movie There are a few basic powers Telekentics (moving objects, affeting objects) Body enhancment (Jumps, breathing, focusing, heightended senses) Precognition (seeing into the future) Telepathy (Mainly Emtions, not thoughts or pictures) Now there are a few gray areas: Force Lightning: Is basically channelling of your hate, notice it allways travels from the fingers Energy Reflection/absorb we see yoda do both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wossname Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 You forget the most important aspect of using the Force: You must hold your hand out in front of you, or wave it around in some manner. (That always annoyed me, but I suppose it's the nature of movies that there needs to be some visual indication of what someone's doing in their mind.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDove Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 Originally posted by dorain8 DUDE SORRY this was one of the last threads i entered after aboiut an hour and i was gettin really pissed off about people mis interpretting the movie i have watched the movie 4 times already IN THE CINEMA hell i went twice opening day! yoda does not eminate his own lightning blot, the 1st time i saw it i thought he did but i realized in the next 3 times he is still trying to reflect it Next 3 times? No dude it went like this. Dooku fires a bolt at Yoda, Yoda sustains the whole bunch and reflects it back to Dooku, whereas Dooku fires his lightning back, so in the middle it cracks, and makes a 3rd passage (which took out some rocks), then Dooku fires again, and Yoda reflects it around himself, and the final blow, Yoda just sustains (absorbs) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miracleasd Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 you missed a few. as someone else mentioned vader used saber throw luke used dark rage in rotj (against vader) qui-gon used mind trick (on watto, didnt work but he used it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorain8 Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 it didnt have to mean he used dark rage i think luke just went skitso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Ying Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 hi guys. sorry to **** on your party, but the saber movements wasn't based on any movies. sure, there could of been influence, but they were not taken from the movies. a guy named Luke LaFontaine was hired by Raven to choreograph the saber fights. its based on a mixture of kendo and western sword fighting. if you want proof, here it is, from SFI (Sword Forum International) http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2926 http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1678 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_Kinnison Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Originally posted by =SSC=Kal-El Next 3 times? No dude it went like this. Dooku fires a bolt at Yoda, Yoda sustains the whole bunch and reflects it back to Dooku, whereas Dooku fires his lightning back, so in the middle it cracks, and makes a 3rd passage (which took out some rocks), then Dooku fires again, and Yoda reflects it around himself, and the final blow, Yoda just sustains (absorbs) ahem... nope The whole scene... Dooku Bolts Yoda... Yoda blocks the attack and collects it, then redirects it to doouk, Dooku REFLECTS IT and it hits the ceiling Then Dooku bolts again, yoda blocks the attack, collects it, then ABOSRBS IT. 2 bolts, 1 redirect, 1 deflect, 1 absorb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahs Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Have a question. Why didn't Obi Wan use the force to pull his saber to him when he fought Jango?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahs Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Obi Used Mind trick on Those stormtroopers in ANH too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahs Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 AND (lol) Vader blocked some blasterrounds with his hand in ESB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Ying Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 jah's >> he didn't need his saber against jango in hand to hand. it was all fine until he shot his grappling hook around obi's wrist haha i think vader deflected the shots with his hand, not block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted May 23, 2002 Share Posted May 23, 2002 Obi-Wan was reaching out with his hand to collect his saber, giving Jango a clear shot at his hands, so he tangled them up with his wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Matrix Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 I agree, Luke went skitso in his final fight with Vader (granted, he COULD have been using his anger to give him advantage, but It appeared that Luke just spazzed out). a guy named Luke LaFontaine was hired by Raven to choreograph the saber fights. its based on a mixture of kendo and western sword fighting. Thanks for clarrifying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDevil Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 I know that the movies aren't based on the games and such at all, but I thought it would be cool if Plo Koon could use his orange version of lightning like in Jedi Power Battles Hey, I can dream can't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
She'ba Katana Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Originally posted by Wossname That's why, even though Anakin has slaughtered a whole tribe of sand people, he's not turned to the dark side yet - because he used his saber, not the force. I don't think this is making sense. All Jedi improve their lightsaber skill by using the force. Espacially when they deflect laserbolds. (See Luke practicing with the drone in ANH) Without useing the force they would be not more than a good skilled fencer. But nowone can reflect bolds, without using the force. I think he needed it to strike down a whole tusken-clan. This was obviously a second, important step towards the dark side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiran Halcyon Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Lets see a complete thing: Qui-Gon Jin: Enhaced breath (dioxis!) Enhaced movemens-velocity (this is a wihtstand, lets go) Enhaced reflexes (with lightsaber) 'Force knockout' (with jar jar in the bongo. 'relax') 'Force telekinesis( push)' (droids) 'Force mind trick (wiht Boss Nass and Watto) 'Force Jump' (to the Queen Ship) 'Force relaxation/meditation' (duel with Maul) Obi-Wan Kenobi: Enhaced Breath (as qui-gon) Enhaced movements-velocity (as qui-gon) Enhaced reflexes (with lightsaber and Jedi Fighter) Enhaced voice (krayt dragon roar in ANH) 'Force Jump' (many times) 'Force mind trick' (many times) 'Force telekinesis (Pull)' (saber and galaxy ball) 'Force make sounds' (with the Stormtroopers in ANH) 'Force phantom' Anakin Skywalker: Enhaced reflexes (with lightsaber) 'Force Jump' Force telekinesis (pull and push) Force relaxation/meditation (in padme's retreat, in the balcony after nightmare) 'Force phantom' Future visions Darth Vader: Force deflect (blaster shots) Force Choke Force read mind(he tried with leia) Saber throw? Maybe not Enhaced reflexes Force telekinesis (pull and push) Luke Skywalker: Enhaced reflexes Force seeing (in ANH with the helmet) Force Choke Force Jump Force Telekinesis Future visions Force mind trick Yoda: Force absorb Force deflect Force jump Enhaced movements Enhaced reflexes Force telekinesis Future Visions Force relaxation/meditation Force phantom Force 'Sith cannot sense me' Darth Maul: Force telekinesis Force read mind Darth Sidious/Emperor Palpatine: Force mind control (federation, troops....) Force lightning Force ' jedi cannot sense me' Force read mind Force Telekinesis (opens Luke's hand-restrain) Future Visions Count dooku: Enhaced reflexes Force jump Force lightning Force telekinesis well may i have left something, so post it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajess MoDuron Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Okay, Luke does not CHOKE the piggy. It goes to sleep and ignores him after going back to it's place on the wall, that was some kind of mind trick rather than choke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiran Halcyon Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Originally posted by Rajess MoDuron Okay, Luke does not CHOKE the piggy. It goes to sleep and ignores him after going back to it's place on the wall, that was some kind of mind trick rather than choke. I didn't meant he killed him, only left him unconscious. I remember seeing the Gamorrean making choking sounds and taking his hand to his throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSkoolJedi Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Yeah Darth vader does use "force manipulation?" for his lightsaber in RotJ right at the end where he throws it to get luke off the barrasters(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rajess MoDuron Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Oh I know that, but it doesn't slump unconsiously. It moves over to where it was and falls back asleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiran Halcyon Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Maybe he choked and them used the forece to sleep him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Okay, Luke does not CHOKE the piggy. It goes to sleep and ignores him after going back to it's place on the wall, that was some kind of mind trick rather than choke. They don't fall asleep, they just get pushed back into the wall and the camera cuts away. They presumably just decide to leave him be. Also, Keiran--from your name I would think that you would no better than to try and resolve the Force into all of those separate things . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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