Darth_Lando Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 Was Obiwan a noble Jedi knight? Or an old man who liked to play mind games with people? The conspiracy theory is Obiwan never died and he and Yoda just wanted to play mind games with Luke Skywalker to see his butt get kicked by Darth Vader in some sick Jedi Hazing Ritual*. Which we know that Vader himself was a victim of a Jedi Hazing Ritual gone bad! He spent the rest of his life on life support and took out his bitterness on a sick twisted intergalactic joke on his son, Luke Skywalker. 1st lets study Obiwan's character: 1. He is a liar! A. We know he told Luke "Vader betrayed and murdered your father." But WE know the truth! When Luke confronted the "ghost" of Obiwan he tried to cover up his lie with "what I told you was true, from a certain point of view." What a load of bantha poo doo! Even Luke wasn't suckered enough to believe that one. 2. He was defiant and could have been subdued by the Dark Side. A. He trained under Qui Gon, who was trained by Dooku who we know is a Sith. Qui Gon could have secretly taught Obiwan the ways of the Dark Side. B. Yoda himself told Obiwan "Qui Gons defiance I sense in you." It is evident Obiwan was starting down the darth path. So far, we have established that Obiwan is a jerk and can not be trusted. Now lets look at the evidence that he NEVER died. Evidence #1 - The "disapearing" death Up until Obiwan fought Darth Vader in Episode 4, no Jedi had ever disapeared and became "one with the force". What a joke! Even Darth vader was surprised at Obiwans disapearance! He stepped on his clothes in disbelief. What Obiwan merely did was use a common Jedi Mind trick to make himself invisible to everyone and strip off his clothes! He was a perverted naked Jedi running around the Death Star! He was on board Darth Vaders tie fighter talking to Luke in the force and he and Vader were the only survivors from the Death Star explosion. Obiwan and Vader were in it together. They ARE FRIENDS! Evidence #2 - Obiwans "GHOST" We all know how good the technology was in the Star Wars galaxy. Obiwan was merely making a holographic projection of himself to Luke. And LUKE FELL FOR IT! The sucker. If you think this is far fetched, just think to yourself, is it a coincidence that Obiwan's "GHOST" appeared to Luke at the same time the Empire was sending down probe droids to Hoth? I think not. Thsi was the first time lonely Luke had seen Obiwans ghost. Is it any coincidence that Vader "knew" the Rebels were on Hoth with such little evidence? All of Vader generals were trying to reason with Vader but he was set on going to Hoth. Mmm Hmm. Obiwan tells Luke to go see Yoda, who is also in on this sick trick they are playing on Luke. Evidence 3- Yoda cops out When Luke found out Vader (spoiler ahead!) was his father indeed(end spoiler)! The joke was almost about to unravel, so what does Yoda do? He fakes his death like Obiwan getting naked and doing a mind trick. When Luke was talking to R2, almost emotionally destroyed, believing all his freinds were dieing he said he couldn't face Vader. I bet Yoda and Obiwan were hiding in the bushed laughing their butts off! How cruel. They were probably broadcasting the message to Vader was peeing in his armor with laughter I am sure! This is sick and twisted I call all of you to think twice before thinking highly of Obiwan and Yoda. Luke Skywalker barely made it out alive from this joke. Lets pray that Luke puts and end to the maddness after ROTJ. The end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qui-GONE Jinn Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 Maybe I don't have any sense of humor but...this is kinda stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 You moron! this is how it really happened! -A new hope, Ben fighting vader- They slash at each other with lightsabers, and Ben holds his saber up. About that time, The Enterprise Comes from warp, and beams him aboard. Luke: NOOOOOOO!!!! -The end- Here is what happened to Yoda. -ROTJ- Yoda turns over and falls asleep. Then, The Enterprise Comes out of warp and beams him up. Luke stares at the empty space. -the end- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
power_ed Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 Originally posted by obi-wan13 You moron! this is how it really happened! -A new hope, Ben fighting vader- They slash at each other with lightsabers, and Ben holds his saber up. About that time, The Enterprise Comes from warp, and beams him aboard. Luke: NOOOOOOO!!!! -The end- Here is what happened to Yoda. -ROTJ- Yoda turns over and falls asleep. Then, The Enterprise Comes out of warp and beams him up. Luke stares at the empty space. -the end- LOL ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grogan Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, it all makes sense now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyJAllTheWay Posted June 5, 2002 Share Posted June 5, 2002 Stop it! Stop it! The voices in my head are acting up again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbas WhOr3 Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Oh hell that was funny NAKED JEDIS!!! I knEW IT tey R Ghey Streakers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryd0r Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 He wasn't lying about that father thing...he was talking in riddles because George Lucas made him do it! so his precious plot twist would be saved! I don't think Count Dooku was a sith when he trained qui-gon, since Darth Maul and Darth Sidious were still alive - only two there are, no more, no less. And so what? He defied the council to train the chosen one. Does that make him a sith? DOES IT?! Here's my theory: The old man was not really Obi-Wan, he lacked the accent and the cool jumping around like a mad man. He was an impostor! It is the impostor that has been pissing around with Luke. And look at Yoda, he's not CGI, he doesn't talk the same, he doesn't look the same. Another impostor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi Posted June 6, 2002 Share Posted June 6, 2002 Originally posted by Stryd0r He wasn't lying about that father thing...he was talking in riddles because George Lucas made him do it! so his precious plot twist would be saved! I don't think Count Dooku was a sith when he trained qui-gon, since Darth Maul and Darth Sidious were still alive - only two there are, no more, no less. And so what? He defied the council to train the chosen one. Does that make him a sith? DOES IT?! Here's my theory: The old man was not really Obi-Wan, he lacked the accent and the cool jumping around like a mad man. He was an impostor! It is the impostor that has been pissing around with Luke. And look at Yoda, he's not CGI, he doesn't talk the same, he doesn't look the same. Another impostor! Maybe they had decoys, like queen.....errr......Senator Amidala had. if not, I still think the Enterprise Theory is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iguelmay Posted June 8, 2002 Share Posted June 8, 2002 However, the question still remains, wtf does he get by faking his death? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorus_C'both Posted June 8, 2002 Share Posted June 8, 2002 Sorry to tell you that your post is not funny at all. You wasted a good forty-five writing that nonsence when you could have been practicing spamming backstab and DFA. Be a bob! http://home.attbi.com/~jedibobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throno-Denkai Posted June 8, 2002 Share Posted June 8, 2002 Well my friend, he is not a liar. Even if he told a lie to Luke, he did it for good. Obi-wan knew that the only way to stop Vader was to kill him, if Obi-wan told Luke that Anakin was his father, he might not want to fight him. Also telling to Luke that Vader killed his father was a lie that would make Luke angry and want to avenge his father, which was a solution to kill Vader. And, if Obi-wan didnt die, he would not show up as a spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Doo Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Thats rigth. Remember that Luke admitted that Obi didnt really lied. When Vader was taking him to the Emperor. "Then my father is truly dead!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi-Ghendu Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 this shows how warped the mind truly can be.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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