Throno-Denkai Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Mace has a purple color because purple is the royal color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 yeah, like lucas, he obviously doesnt give a crap about consistancy. but as far as eu material, the authors all do generally tend to avoid raising contadictive scenarios with previously established material, but when youv got dozens of people contributing, and not all of them are reading all of each others stuff, then it still becomes difficult to remain consistant. I just wish that the star wars liscence belong to someone who actually cared about star wars in its entirety, EU and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Originally posted by Exar yeah, like lucas, he obviously doesnt give a crap about consistancy. but as far as eu material, the authors all do generally tend to avoid raising contadictive scenarios with previously established material, but when youv got dozens of people contributing, and not all of them are reading all of each others stuff, then it still becomes difficult to remain consistant. I just wish that the star wars liscence belong to someone who actually cared about star wars in its entirety, EU and all. Why should Lucas cripple the movies so that he can mesh with the EU? I mean some of the bizzare crap in the EU is just silly... He is trying to tell a different kind of story than the EU allows for. Just deal with it, if someone was trying to dance around some of the garbage in the EU, the new trilogy would be really bad, as opposed to the fun, interesting movies we've gotten. I doubt a Star Wars movie made in the EU tradtion would be worth seeing, most of that stuff is awfully repetive. Thank goodness for the NJO, but even that wouldn't be a fantastic trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 vestril, im not talking about that at all. i dont care if the movies dont fit in with EU material, so dont think that! im talking about consistancy and decent story telling within his own material, his own creation! i already stated i dont care if he chooses to ignore EU material. and as if alot of the concepts found in canon material arent just plain silly too, if you want to to there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbug Posted June 9, 2002 Author Share Posted June 9, 2002 Talking about EU, around where in time does Jedi Outcast happen, after ROTJ or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 vestril, im not talking about that at all. i dont care if the movies dont fit in with EU material, so dont think that! im talking about consistancy and decent story telling within his own material, his own creation! i already stated i dont care if he chooses to ignore EU material. and as if alot of the concepts found in canon material arent just plain silly too, if you want to to there. I just wish that the star wars liscence belong to someone who actually cared about star wars in its entirety, EU and all. As for some minor inconsitencies within the Trilogies--I suggest you learn to deal with those too, it isn't a matter of caring or not caring, it's a matter of Lucas being a human being, and having the ability to make mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Talking about EU, around where in time does Jedi Outcast happen, after ROTJ or something? Aproximately eight years after the Battle of Endor, according to the opening crawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 lol, vestril i get the feeling you dont like me because you try to argue against me on points that i never made a big deal about, and make me sound like some over indulged star wars freak who is going insane caring about whos right in star wars . i dont give a crap about what george lucas does or what has been done with star wars. Im not such a big geek that im losing sleep over it or anything, i could care less. I just think star wars had so much more potential, and could have been so much bigger than it is even now with more care from its creator. i understand that lucas didnt want to spend his whole life involved in star wars, but we know it always been about the money. He would never have done Ep 5-6 if there was no money in it, or the prequels for that matter. he just wanted to make a movie thats was dazzling enough, people would see it for eye candy alone. Lol, i never said anything, like ' This is TOTAL outrage! im soooo mad at george lucas i could kill him for being so stupid and uncaring!' all i ever really said was george apparently doesnt care about consistancy, because if he did im sure he'd have put more though into his scripts, and that there are consistancy problems throughout all star wars material. so stop relpying to my posts telling me to 'just deal with it' and 'get over it', because it doesnt bother me! i was just raising points based on my observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 lol, vestril i get the feeling you dont like me because you try to argue against me on points that i never made a big deal about, and make me sound like some over indulged star wars freak who is going insane caring about whos right in star wars I don't take things personally, it's Star Wars forum--I don't know you so I can't really say whether or not I like you i dont give a crap about what george lucas does or what has been done with star wars Good for you That's not how it came across, it came across as quite irate. My apologies for the confusion. Lol, i never said anything, like ' This is TOTAL outrage! im soooo mad at george lucas i could kill him for being so stupid and uncaring!' all i ever really said was george apparently doesnt care about consistancy, because if he did im sure he'd have put more though into his scripts, and that there are consistancy problems throughout all star wars material. No, but your word usage seemed to suggest that you felt rather passionate about it. What's more your attacks seem rather pointless if you didn't care, I mean granted they are observations and you're just stating them, but they are facts that are obvious about any trilogy, consistency is hard to maintain, and sometimes errors are made--these are to be expected. I guess I just don't understand why you think someone else would do a better job. could have been so much bigger than it is even now with more care from its creator. i understand that lucas didnt want to spend his whole life involved in star wars, but we know it always been about the money. He would never have done Ep 5-6 if there was no money in it, or the prequels for that matter. he just wanted to make a movie thats was dazzling enough, people would see it for eye candy alone. Yeah...of course it's about the money. Not entirely though, a big portion of it is fufilling Lucas's vision for himself. He wants to see these movies as he sees them in his head. Allow me to point out why... if Lucas wanted to make a maximum amount of money, he would have used the technology, and by extension the budgets, of the OT. The numbers and box office sales might have actually been similar because of all of the people who wanted to see Star Wars, and in a traditional sense, and the amount of money spent on the movie would be significantly lower--making WAY more money for George Lucas. Because he cares about the quality of the movies, he creates this 'dazzline eye candy' and a good story (my apologies to you if you're deaf and couldn't hear the dialogue--I could see how that would create some confusion). It's a good, fun movie, and no one else could do it the same as George Lucas--Star Wars is his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 what are you doing, trying to start some intellectual sounding arguement with me. all i can say is you give george lucas more praise than he deserves. that guy sucks when it comes to the finer points of story telling. there are several EU authors, that given the same ideas and concepts to work with, could have told the tale of star wars much more competently. lucas was the one to develop those concepts though, so like you said, he gets to do as he pleases with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Originally posted by Exar what are you doing, trying to start some intellectual sounding arguement with me. all i can say is you give george lucas more praise than he deserves. that guy sucks when it comes to the finer points of story telling. there are several EU authors, that given the same ideas and concepts to work with, could have told the tale of star wars much more competently. ...I'm at a loss for words. Since apparently I'm not supposed to use an intelligent argument, I'll go with this: You're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 well, this is the last time im gonna reply to you vestril. ive read lots or your posts and replys on the forums and i dont care for any of your opinions. we obviously dont agree and im just gonna leave it at that, because i dont like arguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCanr2d2 Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Off to your seperate corners, boys. Round one is over!!! I think the main inconsistencies are what people tend to believe what is in the original movies, and what isn't. Many of the OT novels, where some more of the backstory is revealed, are taken from earlier drafts of the script, and not quite the final one...... Remember, things in a SW Universe are true, from a certain point of view.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 lol, well put bcar2d2. actually, i have the original novel Star Wars:from the adventures of luke skywalker written by george lucas. there are many very interesting differences between the novel and the movie script. for example r2d2 had arms and legs instead of little treads to name one. it has been a long time since i read it but im pretty sure the screenplay was written based on the novel because the novels copyright is 1976. subsequently the novel had to be extremely altered for it to possibly work as a movie with the fx hardware of the time. it is a very interesting read, though. to see what lucas true original vision of star wars was. and the way the novel was written, he never really intended to go beyond it. it was just like so many other sci-fi novels published at the time that id didnt even get paid much attention (because even as far as novels go the true original was lacking). the only reason star wars was originally so successful on screen was basically only the visuals, just like it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qui-GONE Jinn Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 Uhh...don't like arguin? then why are you here? A good argument is never to be underestimated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exar Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 i like exchanging opinions qui-gon, but when one thing starts getting debated and dragged out, it just takes up space and becomes arbitrary. argueing is pointless in forums, sharing ideas is why were here, if we dont like someones particular idea we dont have to acknowledge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vestril Posted June 9, 2002 Share Posted June 9, 2002 I was simply trying to give a counter argument to your ideas about George Lucas. I'm sorry that you don't like me, but you will have to put up with my responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediGrim Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 Just to input in here about Mace's saber, the main reason was because Samuel Jackson personally requested a purple lightsaber. That's what I've heard at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JandoFett1842 Posted June 10, 2002 Share Posted June 10, 2002 Well, that may be true but wtf happend to Adi Gallia's Crimson Blade, or Plo Koon's yellow one? Like in Jedi Power Battles. Ok Game, need gfx help though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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