reaper1576 Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 Originally posted by Mirko Ok. thats Fine for me... I Think i Will Play Both, but i surely want the levels to be the same (because the gameplay was good and is still good and i would like to see what the designers could have made, if they have had this engine). IT might still be, that we mean the same... im really not sure. (I dont want the maps to be "ugly" like the original, but i would like to have the things in the same place, same secrets enemy Placement (might be changed, cause the AI is different), I Think i will see, when there are real Screnneshots. Perhaps you should put some Images for comparing online, when you have some parts ready (Original/New Ones) I'm Hoping to do that ASAP but at the moment things are going a bit slow so at the due to personal maters but hopefuly may be a very early BETA of narshadda for testing so keep your fingers crossed cos im not promising anything on this it may be longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIO Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 i don't want to be a pessimist but i need to know wat about the cutscenes how u going to do them jkii had live action cutscenes maybe u could rip the origanal ones and use them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harukaze Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 I was thinking that we'd just use the models in the fashion that JO does for its cutscenes. I do not believe it is possible to copy over the cutscenes, nor do I think we would be allowed to. ... ... ... Besides, they're really cheesy. Do you really WANT to have those carried over? *runs like hell from all the diehard JK fans* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_One Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 If you rip and use material directly from the original game - you'll get the project axed...simple. I think it will be fun doing cutscenes again - that's what we're doing for the DF mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIO Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 yeah i doubt cp laws would allow that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harukaze Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Thus "I don't think we'd be allowed to" : ) And personally, that makes me happy, cause as nice as a live-action Jan was, the acting and special affects hurt so badly I could barely stand to watch. But I had to, so I'd know the story; doing this otherwise would be slightly difficult. *ponders* I'm also thinking of doing a slight story modification as an alternative, although I think some of the JK purists would kill me if I tried. Let's just say that I've been playing with some ideas of scripted duels between NPCs [a la Desann versus Luke, only actually scripted] and some concept ideas for the death of Yun. And hey, for all the JK purists, we ARE planning to have identical map layouts to JK along with my alternatives, so maybe the alternative version can have different cutscenes too? *ponders* Just a thought... and one for much further down the road anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper1576 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Ok what im planing and hopeing to for the cutscreen are the same style of Jo but use ing the blink tools to extarct the movie it to stills and make a prefab or somthing what someone can script i hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper1576 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 Ok it would be nice to use and update the orginals but i dont think lucas will let us but i would be nice this is one to be discused propely and hopfully get an idea about this so to do this we need artists who know about creating textures for the engine and shadders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper1576 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 This is one thing i want to make clear now if any people who are working on maps imports the origianl and send it to be used hey will not be used so please dont think about doing this please dont. IMPORTANT Anyone working on maps please use chalk and the bespin/basic texture for the surfaces that are visable Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grets Sirob Posted July 5, 2002 Author Share Posted July 5, 2002 You of course mean caulk. Chalk is something you use to draw on sidealks with... Anyways, I think that(so there's no confusion) we should think up funky acronims for the projects. For instance, for the exact remakes, call it P.E.R. Project Exact Remake. I can't think of anything for the revised version, but someone could probably think of something(awaits answer...) Plus, the more I think about it, the more I think it would be cool to add stuff to the old levels. I may join Harukaze on this... I'm also thinking of contacting Major Clod, Absath and Bloodriot(see where I'm going with this?), and Oddjob. To see if we can use their models(wookiee, the boush madel[what is boush anyway...], and some mandalorians) in our maps for more variety. The wookiees and whatever-boush-is's would be all over the place, but for the Mandalorians, I have a different plan... We could have(on certain levels) unofficial "boss" people(the mandalorians) We could do some fun scripting stuff. For instance, on the second ns level: You could have to go through some security checkpoint thing, and there's a camera on the wall. When you use that camera, it shows a scene with two bad guys(I'm thinking a Gran and Rodian or something like that). A mandalorian walks in, the gran tells him to leave, mandalorian says no. A fight breaks out(the Rodians still standing there, confident that the gran can win) and the mandalorian punches the gran(who then falls back dead). The rodian looks from the gran, to the mandalorian, and back again. He whips out his gun, and the mandalorian takes out his gun(bowcaster or something better...) and shoots the rodian. Then, later on, you have to fight him(he'd obviously put up a good fight, being a boss type character...) Anyway, what do you think? And Harukaze, I liked the cutscenes from jk1, but I think it would be better to make them in the current engine anyway... So, I'll contact those people, and we'll see if we can use them. I shall rule the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper1576 Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 the cutsceens are important part of the game but i need to know will autocad work????? extra models is a thing ive been thinking about and i think it would be a good thing in some city based levels it would be good to get permission to use peoples models to add more atmosphear to level the idea for the mandalrians is a good idea to a point it could be used it something like a trail one of them sort of training thing if u get where im going (force system in JK1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirko Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 Originally posted by Harukaze And hey, for all the JK purists, we ARE planning to have identical map layouts to JK along with my alternatives, so maybe the alternative version can have different cutscenes too? Why not??? If the originals get redone, too, you can do that aswell. I will play both versions, but i really would somehow be disappointed if you would only do the alternative version. You should do In game Cutscenes, only Problem will be the Ships in Space... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grets Sirob Posted July 6, 2002 Author Share Posted July 6, 2002 Yeah, that'll be tough... Anyway, I was playing jk1 again yesterday(looking at the levels that you fight dark jedi in). I think I'm going to make all those. Cutscenes are a different matter though... I'm going to try the cutscene that plays after you defeat yun(for the first time). If I can't do it, well, I can't do it. I would like to make that one though, and if it's not too hard, maybe I'll try some other cutscenes... And reaper, I don't really get where your going... I shall rule the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grets Sirob Posted July 6, 2002 Author Share Posted July 6, 2002 Ok, I've contacted OddJob, MC, Bloodriot, and Absath. Not much else to say, but I just thought I'd tell you what's going on right now... I shall rule the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harukaze Posted July 6, 2002 Share Posted July 6, 2002 I contacted Bloodriot and Absath almost immediately after signing on to the project, and they said they were busy on something else; but I didn't think to ask simply if we could use their models as NPCs and enemies in our maps. Good thinking! And I might have a solution for our friend Boc. He might be able to fight the way we want, but it'll take some work. Lemme play around a bit first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grets Sirob Posted July 6, 2002 Author Share Posted July 6, 2002 Harukaze, I hope to *insert item here* you figure it out. If you do, we will all be in your debt. I will humble myself.... Anyways... Moving along here... I shall rule the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper1576 Posted July 7, 2002 Share Posted July 7, 2002 Ok people at the moment iam working on a Project Plan with a list of whos doing what etc before it all goes to out of hand so soon as i have an early draft i will send it out to everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper1576 Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Has anyone heard more about the hosting and whos with us on this project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harukaze Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 The hosting guy didn't get back to my last email, prolly cause of the vacation weekend over here. I'll email him again. ~ Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIO Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 guys i got ur answear for boc!!!! check out this link! http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67896 its a mod for duel sabers, o cept at the moment it doesn't work in sp but there working one it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaper1576 Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 Nice one VIO for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Exar Kun Posted July 10, 2002 Share Posted July 10, 2002 if someone tells me what progam to use i will create the saber handle except gorc and boc using thew ones at click right here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grets Sirob Posted July 11, 2002 Author Share Posted July 11, 2002 This is great news VIO! We can do it now! Woohoo! I shall rule the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucko Mabri Posted July 11, 2002 Share Posted July 11, 2002 uuuum sorry to hinder your progress. They cant use it for sp since it uses the source code -Lucko Mabri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grets Sirob Posted July 12, 2002 Author Share Posted July 12, 2002 Hello?! Wake up Lucko! He said: Originally posted by VIO they're working on it I think we all know it isn't for sp, YET. Please, think before you post, read, and stop flamming(even if it was mild...) I shall rule the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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