Xyphox Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 Nice model! You're doing a great job. BTW I love your avatar. Cecil from FFIV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harukaze Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 *grins* Glad you said four, otherwise I'd have to hurt you Got any skinners lined up yet, btw? I am admittedly just a novice but I'm learning more by the day [i finally discovered how to make cloth, I was very happy... charcoal at a 50% spread works wonders, and follow that up with a light blur for a gorgeous effect]. I could seriously see the default skin pack containing a skin for Jorus C'baoth and Joruus C'baoth. I'm not sure team support could be pulled off without an overabundance of cheese [sorry, to my mind, it doesn't seem like Master C'baoth, either one, would walk around in a red or a blue robe, and anything more subtle might be too subtle for team gameplay]. If you already have someone lined up, maybe could I at least try my hand at the Jorus skin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacermonkey Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 he looks good, why not have a few polys hanging over his face then using some opacity to turn them into whispy hair like in the drawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted July 14, 2002 Author Share Posted July 14, 2002 I was gonna try to skin Joruus myself, though I still have alot to learn. Harukaze, if you wanted to do a Jorus skin that would be great. I still have some more work to do on the model itself. When that is finished, I'll let you know. Maybe the team skins can be a different character all together like Chesire did with his Darth Maul. Thanks for the suggestion spacermonkey, I'm still working on the hair. By the way have you made any skins before, Harukaze. If not, then that's fine, I haven't either, I was just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NerfYoda Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 Originally posted by Harukaze *grins* Glad you said four, otherwise I'd have to hurt you Got any skinners lined up yet, btw? I am admittedly just a novice but I'm learning more by the day [i finally discovered how to make cloth, I was very happy... charcoal at a 50% spread works wonders, and follow that up with a light blur for a gorgeous effect]. I could seriously see the default skin pack containing a skin for Jorus C'baoth and Joruus C'baoth. I'm not sure team support could be pulled off without an overabundance of cheese [sorry, to my mind, it doesn't seem like Master C'baoth, either one, would walk around in a red or a blue robe, and anything more subtle might be too subtle for team gameplay]. If you already have someone lined up, maybe could I at least try my hand at the Jorus skin? Dumb request: add a Charleton Heston style Moses skin to the model. Moses using the force & lightsabers = funny & this model is perfect for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted July 14, 2002 Author Share Posted July 14, 2002 Thanks Xyphox, good to see a fellow FFIV fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted July 14, 2002 Author Share Posted July 14, 2002 I'll probably just stick with Star Wars type characters for the first release. Once I get better at skinning I could maybe do a skinpack, as I know there are alot of bearded/robed characters out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harukaze Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 *sheeps* I don't have anything released yet, no. I started off by editing existing skins, but thanks to Chesire I was able to get to work on a skin straight off the wire-frame. Let me tell you, I've learned so much more from doing that than any skin editing I could have done, and I'm glad I never embarassed myself by releasing a modified skin like that. Some people have and, no offense intended, they're really not nearly as nice as the fresh, entirely new ones. My current project, the male Zabrak, is exactly like what you described for Joruus: each team color skin is a different character altogether. Coincidently enough it uses the Maul model you mentioned ^_^ Maybe by tonight check out the skinning forum for a screenshot of what I've accomplished; what's there thus far is nothing special, but I'm working on another update today. I think those pictures there are before I discovered the wonders of charcoal, so it's really a lot more flat than he is now. Oh, and since you're also a novice to this, I'll give you advice I just discovered. Lighting sucks. Badly. So, whatever it is you're doing, make it much more overly obvious than you normally would, otherwise you're going to get nowhere. After I first got a texture to look like cloth, I was so psyched, thinking it would look so amazing in-game. Got it in-game, and it looked almost as flat as when I had had him entirely without texture. Anyway for the skins for this model. I think it's a good idea for you to do team colors for Joruus, but if you don't mind, I'll release Jorus without team colors. They'll be similar enough to begin with [although I look forward to seeing our differences in design; I've already got something in mind to distinguish Jorus from Joruus] that doing additional team colors might be redundant. Once you're done with the model, let me know, and maybe we can discuss some skinning ideas, conceptually and actual design-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucko Mabri Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 Wow Amazing! -Lucko Mabri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted July 15, 2002 Author Share Posted July 15, 2002 I worked a little more on the model last night. I made the hair longer in the back and I think it is at a good length. The bottom of his robe still needs some work. Harukaze, that all sounds great. Team support really isn't necessary for Jorus. I usually don't play team CTF seeing as how my labtop isn't too powerful, I usually just duel. I do realize that other people will want it though so it will be included with Joruus. Thanks for the texturing advice, everything looks different ingame. I checked out your Male Zabrak thread (and the pictures without the charcoal) and its looking pretty good. I check back there later for your updated shots. Pics updated: http://www.geocities.com/donahuepj/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted July 16, 2002 Author Share Posted July 16, 2002 I'm nearing completion on the actual model itself, but I have one question. Are the bones included in the polygon count of the model? With the bones I have a count over 4,000. Without the bones the count is 2500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted July 16, 2002 Author Share Posted July 16, 2002 I've finished the actual modeling and am going to start with all the technical stuff (weighting, UVW mapping). Updated pics: http://www.geocities.com/donahuepj/ What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Burner Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 its awesome!!! any idea when you are finished?? looks like it would be fun to play as him in SP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillon Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 darth vigrid - you're model is *BLEEP* amazing! i'm so impressed by how quickly you cranked it out, too. although i'm unfamiliar with this character and his background, but to be able to play as a character who's an insane clone of a jedi knight is awesome! you just gotta have some insane laughter/sounds/taunts for him. keep up the great work! can't wait to see its progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volkie Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 I can see this model is going to be very popular,good work so far, you are obviously a very skilled artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted July 16, 2002 Author Share Posted July 16, 2002 Wow thanks, This is my first model and I'm happy with the way it has turned out so far. As for the release date, I'm not sure. I still have to get him ingame and skinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adillon Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Vigrid This is my first model your FIRST model?! wow! you could've said it was your 30th and i would've believed you. it's just that great! good luck with all you have left to do ... and keep us posted on your progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted July 16, 2002 Author Share Posted July 16, 2002 Today, my computer decided it wanted to crash and I had to format my hard drive, so I lost all my files, including my model. I'm just going to have to restart it, and hey maybe it will come out even better. Hopefully, it won't take me too long. Don't worry, I won't give up on it. At least I've learned an important lesson (Always back up your files). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harukaze Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 ... ... ... *dies* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted July 16, 2002 Author Share Posted July 16, 2002 Don't worry. This just pushes the release a few days back. It really didn't take me to long to make, and I've learned alot since I first started. After I finished modeling, I realized I was going to have a hard time fitting it to the skeleton. This time I'm going to build my model directly on the skeleton from the root.xsi. This should shorten the process by alot. Maybe, this will all work out better in the end. Hopefully, you're still up for skinning Jorus, Harukaze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harukaze Posted July 16, 2002 Share Posted July 16, 2002 Absolutely! Spent the entire night on the phone. Not with whom I hoped, but a good friend none-the-less, who happens to own JO and is GM for my Star Wars campaign on campus. So *sheeps* didn't get any skinning done. Turned Maw into a single-player NIGHTMARE, so that was fun, but I didn't even TOUCH photoshop ^_^ So my own skin pack will probably not be out until the end of the weekend rather than Friday like I originally guestimated. And I know what you mean about learning and being able to redo something new a lot faster the second time around. At one point, I completely threw out all of my Zabrak's clothing and began from a purely flat set, each piece all one color, and went from there. The results speak for themselves; it's up to the community to interpret what they say though If what we saw was your first attempt at modelling, I for one cannot WAIT to see what we can expect from you this time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vigrid Posted July 17, 2002 Author Share Posted July 17, 2002 I've begun work on the head again, though I still have more work to do on it. Updated pics: http://www.geocities.com/donahuepj/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harukaze Posted July 17, 2002 Share Posted July 17, 2002 I definately like. He looks very dignified there, which I like. Even Joruus was a bit cultured, even if his instabilities won out in the end. Skinning ideas are definately running around in my head for our friend Jorus. Random note, but I don't think you'll mind my bringing it up. Scheduled for 2004 is a new Zahn duology set in the prequel era and focusing a bit on the mysteries still surrounding Jedi Master Jorus C'baoth. No title and little more information than that, but I thought you'd be interested; I know I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakka Bongo Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 WOW!!! That Looks Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3rr0r Posted July 18, 2002 Share Posted July 18, 2002 wow. you new jorus head is a work of art. it surpasses the old one by far (no offence ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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