covenant_bad Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 I was just thinking how much jediism in starwars is a mix between certain religions but most of all buddism. Think about it... everything buddists/other religions also do: 1.Meditation. 2.Warrior monks (e.g. jedi knights) 3.Believe in a life force (e.g Ki or chi (dont know correct spellin)) 4.Wear robes. 5.Lead simple lives 6.can not become close to anyone. Also lightsabres and there figthing style match that of Kendo which is the fighting with bamboo swords with the most weight in the handle so there is an almost weightless blade. I thought somebody might be interested to know whether lucas was conciously copying these to create jedi in sw. but even if he was it still kicks ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellFyre69 Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 well wut do u expect... these ideas came from a human being (Lucas)... He had to get these "ideas" from somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaster21801 Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Exactly... I'm not sure if you were here when that other guy posted that thread, but someone already beat you to this one... except for the fact that he was all pissed off about it.... *sigh* another lost soul. Film making is an art. Art is never copying, even if itz the same picture. You still put your mark on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebelwerfer_ Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 I think jedi force religion is mostly related to christianity, what with the light side/ darkside of the force, and mostly because of the "chosen one" who will bring balance to the force, kinda like jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaulerZ Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 Orignally posted byNebelwerfer_ I think jedi force religion is mostly related to christianity, what with the light side/ darkside of the force, and mostly because of the "chosen one" who will bring balance to the force, kinda like jesus. Good point but im gonna go with covenent on this topic because thier customs are a lot like buddism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebelwerfer_ Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 yah, come to think of it, jesus never killed off all the good guys and qui gons "living force" is like native american beliefs and yodas mindfull force is like budhism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 I don't really see it as being like Christianity (except perhaps for the "birth" of Anakin, though Christianity is hardly the only religion which contains such an event). I always thought of the Force like Yin-Yang, a balancing of positive and negative energy. It certainly works to represent Luke (mostly good with some evil) and Vader (mostly evil with some good) as we see them in the Empire and Jedi, especially Jedi. So that would chalk it up as what... Taoism? Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebelwerfer_ Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 well, i heard in the UK they have made jedi-ism a real religion because die hards have put it on their government profiles and if a certain amount of people are part a religion then the government must recognise it. anyone from UK know more about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryllith Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Don't know if this is stemmed in the UK or not, but it might say someplace on the site. Check out http://www.jediism.org. Kryllith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Jedism is impossible without the force:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 The Force is also a sentient thing that has a Will and a plan for the universe and can manipulate the universe (usually in subtle ways). That piece of the Force is similar to God. Also, while the basic uniform of the Jedi are far-eastern in their appearance, the robe they wear is similar to the hooded robe a Christian monk wears. Knighthood itself is Western. The Dark Side and Light Side can't be compared to yin/yang because the yin and the yang are in balance, where the Dark Side throws the Force out of balance. The Dark Side is an aberration and the Light Side wants to get rid of it; the Sith can be compared to fallen angels, beings given great power who turned against the good thing that gave them that power. The Force is a composite, and I bet people of any religion could find elements of their faith in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Very nice and very well written:thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkum Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Yes any faith and I mean ANY faith has to have some relation to this whole force thing. And prophecies, meditation, and stuff are found in Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and Buddhism. Lucas had to get this idea from somewhere, I think he combined all of the religions I listed to some Super religion that he put in the movies:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET Warrior Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Or perhaps he simply decided to create a group of protectors and guardians of peace and order in the galaxy who draw their strength and power from a mystical energy force that binds the universe together........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covenant_bad Posted August 2, 2002 Author Share Posted August 2, 2002 ...i think that is a good a point as any. Its really interesting to see how everybody has a unique view on the topic. keep on posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Monk Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 "The Force evolved out of various developments of character and plot. I wanted a concept of religion based on the premise that there is a God and there is good and evil. I began to distill the essence of all religions into what I thought was a basic idea common to all religions and common to primitive thinking. I wanted to develope something that was nmondenominational but still had a kind of religious reality. I believe in God and I believe that there are basic tenets which through history have developed into certainties, such as 'thou shalt not kill.' I don't want to hurt other people. 'Do unto others...' is the philosophy that permeates my work..." ~George Lucas on the Force, the SW1 Scrapbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy_Of_Sith Posted August 4, 2002 Share Posted August 4, 2002 The only thing is while Jedi and the force are all fictional, Jesus is very real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkum Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Did u know some REALLY REALLY REALLY hardcore fan was int oStar Wars that he started Jediism in the UK. I don't care how many times you've seen the movies, the number of times you've read the EU books, or how many action figures you have...... that has to be as hardcore as you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy_Of_Sith Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Im gonna sound like a jerk for saying this but Jedism is the stupidest thing i've ever heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotionMan Posted August 5, 2002 Share Posted August 5, 2002 Jedism is pretty silly. If an actual force excisted I might think about joining though:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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