Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Camus With out the concept of it... we couldnt have the concepts of rate or frequency Keyword - concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exterminator234 Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Camus With out the concept of it... we couldnt have the concepts of rate or frequency ok im gonna stop reading now, tell me when it gets a little more 6th grade, k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camus Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Absurd Keyword - concept. Numbers... Its all about numbers... Our univers can be defined by numbers... everything has a mathmaticl solution... with out time... we couldnt have rate or frequency... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=axiom See #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camus Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Absurd http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=axiom See #3. I think there for I am... ~nods~ Its always a good call when you know there is a small chance someone might comealong and prove you wrong... I must say... Your challenging... I respect people like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 It often leads to tautologies when questioning a concept that is determined by the very (supposed) nature of one's own existence - i.e. time and memory, in this particular case; or in other situations, the personification of the universe through metaphysics or religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camus Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Absurd It often leads to tautologies when questioning a concept that relies upon the very nature of one's existence - i.e. time and memory, in this particular case; or in other situations, the personification of the universe through metaphysics or religion. Yes I must agree... Its like that age old question... which came first the chicken or the egg??? If you believe in evolution then the egg came first... if you believe in religion its the chicken... Its all about where you stand on your own ideals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 Yep, exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camus Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Absurd Yep, exactly. not all the semi - intellectual's are gone... and a few new ones joined... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 After playing games for awhile, I needed some kind of mental outlet. This is one of the few forums where decency is a norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 time is an object we can morph we know this cos we did the atomic clock tests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 You might find this entertaining: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/1311/absurd.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camus Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Absurd After playing games for awhile, I needed some kind of mental outlet. This is one of the few forums where decency is a norm. That wasnt very nice but oh well... AI can get old atimes... but nothing is more fun then the challenge of ones IQ to anothers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 Notice this part: "The Absurd is thus a pointless quest for meaning in a universe devoid of purpose. It is a totally human foible and, once again, only defines the begining of the questioning of existence." http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/1311/absurd.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Clem time is an object we can morph we know this cos we did the atomic clock tests Does an "inch" really exist without a tape measure? Or is it merely a way of attempting to understand and control the 'idea of space'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chastan Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 "Time" is actually just a measure of position... the passage of time, I guess you could call a vector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camus Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Absurd Does an "inch" really exist without a tape measure? Or is it merely a way of attempting to understand and control the 'idea of space'? That is a good question... The inch is a refrence to an excact messurerment... Or distance of space... basicly the distance between a and b is 1 unit... that sets the standard... 5 units make up groupunit... so... with that idea in mind... 5 units can be refured to as a groupunit... 2 groupunit would mean 10 units... from the mathmatic point like I said can be explained by numbers... so yes the inch does exist as a reffrence... It can have a numarical value only if you add one to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Chastan "Time" is actually just a measure of position... the passage of time, I guess you could call a vector. "tau·tol·o·gy Pronunciation Key (tô-tl-j) n. pl. tau·tol·o·gies Needless repetition of the same sense in different words; redundancy. An instance of such repetition. Logic. An empty or vacuous statement composed of simpler statements in a fashion that makes it logically true whether the simpler statements are factually true or false; for example, the statement Either it will rain tomorrow or it will not rain tomorrow. " http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=tautology P.S. I'm only discussing concepts, not the person debating - so it's not a statement upon you, but rather the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Camus That is a good question... The inch is a refrence to an excact messurerment... Or distance of space... basicly the distance between a and b is 1 unit... that sets the standard... 5 units make up groupunit... so... with that idea in mind... 5 units can be refured to as a groupunit... 2 groupunit would mean 10 units... from the mathmatic point like I said can be explained by numbers... so yes the inch does exist as a reffrence... It can have a numarical value only if you add one to it... That would assume that all space is the same, and the units are more than just a pure concept for reference - axioms again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camus Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Absurd But you have to assume that all space is the same, and the units are more than just a pure concept for reference - axioms again. Space may curved but the distance of a line can be cut into exact lengths... a line is always strait... If you cut this perfect line up in exact lengths you use something called units... an inch is nothing more than a fraction or a hole of another unit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 How do you know it's exact without going into a circular reference of finding absolute units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camus Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Absurd How do you know it's exact without going into a circular reference of finding absolute units? You know when you a refrence... ie: precut distance to compare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 So the reference must always be conceptual or created, never absolute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exterminator234 Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 I made the mistake of checking on this again, now my brain hurts. luckily i was listening to music at the same time so i had something else in my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camus Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 Originally posted by Absurd So the reference must always be conceptual or created, never absolute. Only absolute if you use an absolute number... which once again enters the refrence... but with out a refrence no one could learn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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