Mafia_Jabba Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 America, a bully, your kidding right? Hey Europeans please stop saying America is this, America is that... and start saying...America is this because...America is that because.... Please use ah...examples and facts not just moronic opinions you hear from your fellow countryman. Here is a fact, America is the largest doner of foreign aid in the world. Fact, America doesn't use its military to "boss people around". Despite what you may think. Jesus, Europeans, get some facts eh?? OUr government didn't do this ok. Do you even watch the news? Plans being found in terrorist hideouts and stuff. To give the US more power? What, this isn't rome here dudes. What are you talking about. Give the US more power to take out terrorists. YOU SHOULDN"T DISAGREE WITH THAT! Um...To give the US government the ability to Protect you from terrorists. Thats bad huh? Stripping of civil liberties. Let me ask you, what civil liberties have been taken away from you lately? Also, didn't you see the courts are questioning the actions of the executive branch. CHECKS AND BALANCES people! To improve the economy? I think this was an arguement but how does destroying the WORLD TRADE CENTER improve the economy LMAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by =SSC=Kal-El been watching star wars too much my son maybe i'm not the only one? *cough*bush*cough* what if he watched starwars and said "hells yeah! if he can do it then so can i!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munik Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 I don't think something to the effect of destroying the Trade Centers was orchestrated by the US, just to gain more control. But, I do think the US is capatilizing on the fact that it did happen. A chance happening that enabled the government to have more control over people's lives, because people would want them to have more control. To me, it sounds more like a reason for a terrorist then for the US government. If you wanted to scare americans, and undermine their way of life, doing something that makes them willingly relinquish their rights sounds like the thing to do. I'm not really worried or concerned about a dictatorship happening anytime soon. It sucks about losing rights, but that's something I can't change. One vote doesn't matter. I'll be worried when the government tries to repeal the 2nd Amendment. That would be a clear indicator that the **** is about to hit the fan. To clarify something I saw in this post, Afghanistan isn't the Enemy of the US. The reason the US is attacking Afghanistan is because the Taliban, the ruling party of Afghanistan, is protecting Osama bin Laden there. That is where he is hiding. And because the Taliban is a big bunch of bastards. If the French were protecting Osama in France, this would be a totally different situation. It's easier to attack a country ruled by such dip****s, people who don't have such a big approval from the world. Afghanistan doesn't have much for allies, and there is a reason why. Osama is not an Afghani. He is Saudi. A Saudi millionare, made rich from oil. And he's been exiled from Saudi Arabia, don't remember why. You don't think some Afghani dirt farmer was able to come up with the funds to run a world-wide terrorists organization, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafia_Jabba Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 trust me France would be meat if they would be supporting terrorism. There are few countries that will go against us because they know we aren't ****ing around anymore *cough* clinton *cough*. This is serious now. Thats why i like military commanders to politicians. Something needs to get done and it gets done. Thank god for Colin Powell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munik Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 I said protect, not support. Changing my words change my meaning. France protects murderers from the US, but that doesn't mean they support murderers in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weapon X Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 i love america, and i think right now my favorite american is colin powell, and yeah, all you ****in europeans need to quit badmouthin america, only we americans can do that, cuz we do more **** to ourselves than to you guys, we still help out poor countries when we're gettin attacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by Mafia_Jabba trust me France would be meat if they would be supporting terrorism. There are few countries that will go against us because they know we aren't ****ing around anymore *cough* clinton *cough*. This is serious now. Thats why i like military commanders to politicians. Something needs to get done and it gets done. Thank god for Colin Powell. this is y i hate americans if in doubt ... bomb it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Clem this is y i hate americans if in doubt ... bomb it Will someone lock this before we start World War 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munik Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Yeah, anytime a thread starts to show dissenting opinions, asking a mod to lock it is the best thing. No reason why we should have a discussion with opposing views here. Don't want anyone to know that the posters here aren't all exactly alike, and they don't all share the same ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Exactly. So either you guys stop arguing, or this thread is gonna be locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agen Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by ep2 Anakin i love america, and i think right now my favorite american is colin powell, and yeah, all you ****in europeans need to quit badmouthin america, only we americans can do that, cuz we do more **** to ourselves than to you guys, we still help out poor countries when we're gettin attacked America have a sense of humour, they drop bombs on afghanistan, then they drop food, next they'll be dropping giant explosive liquris allsorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSO_DarthVader_ Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 *Cough that artical is bull Cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSO_DarthVader_ Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 I really like how other countries bash on America. As you know, we DID do a lot of dumb things through history, but we also did a lot of GOOD things. Plus, we've been around a little over 200 years, and we haven't done as much stupid things as most of the other older countries have done. Plus, its amazing how we, the USA, one of the youngest countries in the world, has grown so much in a short amount of time, while other countries haven't progressed as much/fast as we did. GOD BLESS AMERICA! Also, I ain't racist or anything, I just hate when radical little twits, point fingers and scream on how America is doing something that they don't like. GROW UP! Life ain't fair, what if a Terrorist bombed your country? You would most likely go to war, as we did. You all non-americans-who-hate-America disgust me, grow a brain and come back to me later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 terrorists bombed england all the time we didnt however go n nuke ireland get yer facts straight terrorism isnt sumthing only america has experienced ... we all had it be4 and coped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Look, will you stop ratting on America? Darth CLem, your just a racial little kid. I'm sorry that we took a stand for our country, trying to end terroism. So, Matt-Windu, can you PLEASE lock this thread, and delete it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSO_DarthVader_ Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 So just because "your" country did a certain action, does it mean "every" country has to follow the same? Every nation has different ways, at different times, in certain situations, on handling things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by Darth Clem terrorists bombed england all the time we didnt however go n nuke ireland get yer facts straight terrorism isnt sumthing only america has experienced ... we all had it be4 and coped Uh, every see the movie Braveheart? America and China kicked your asses out, and Ireland is trying to do the same. Maybe the Irish wouldn't terrorize you if you didn't keep stepping foot into their front yard and trying to run their country. The sun never sets on the British Empire, mainly because now it's always foggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by SSO_DarthVader_ I really like how other countries bash on America. As you know, we DID do a lot of dumb things through history, but we also did a lot of GOOD things. Plus, we've been around a little over 200 years, and we haven't done as much stupid things as most of the other older countries have done. Plus, its amazing how we, the USA, one of the youngest countries in the world, has grown so much in a short amount of time, while other countries haven't progressed as much/fast as we did. GOD BLESS AMERICA! Also, I ain't racist or anything, I just hate when radical little twits, point fingers and scream on how America is doing something that they don't like. GROW UP! Life ain't fair, what if a Terrorist bombed your country? You would most likely go to war, as we did. You all non-americans-who-hate-America disgust me, grow a brain and come back to me later. Yah, they easily forget about WW 2. America didn't have to go to Europe and help out, nor did we have to do the Marshall Plan and save their butts from another depression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 oh yeah i forgot america won both world wars all by themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 America didn't need to enter any of the wars - but you needed America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubatus Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by SSO_DarthVader_ Plus, its amazing how we, the USA, one of the youngest countries in the world, has grown so much in a short amount of time, while other countries haven't progressed as much/fast as we did. GOD BLESS AMERICA! Wow, you're almost as bad as CagedCrado. Indeed USA has grown fast in the way of riches and material priviliges, but at what cost? Native population - screw em over. Environment - who cares. Wisdom - huh? The problem with USA is not directly their questionable actions, it's the majority of the population - people like you. Indoctrinated drones wobbling around going 'GOD BLESS AMERICA!' USA has its good points and have done many great things in history, sure, but your power should be married to wisdom, something disturbingly lacking more and more the further you go down that path of shallow selfglorification. So hate me, flame me, dismiss my oppinion with prejudice, anything to feed your behemoth ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clem Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 i worry ..... blind patriotism is the worst thing in the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absurd Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by Jubatus Wow, you're almost as bad as CagedCrado (if in fact you're not him with a new account - same avatar anyhoo) Indeed USA has grown fast in the way of riches and material priviliges, but at what cost? Native population - screw em over. Environment - who cares. Wisdom - huh? The problem with USA is not directly their questionable actions, it's the majority of the population - people like you. Indoctrinated drones wobbling around going 'GOD BLESS AMERICA!' USA has its good points and have done many great things in history, sure, but your power should be married to wisdom, something disturbingly lacking more and more the further you go down that path of shallow selfglorification. So hate me, flame me, dismiss my oppinion with prejudice, anything to feed your behemoth ego. CagedCrado was an obvious troll. It appears to me this guy was just simply making a stance in the more pro-America direction. He is allowed to have an opinion, isn't he? Or is this just a bashing gallery to see who we can criticize the most? But I guess only smart people are cynical and critical of things - they don't postulate perspectives that lead to optimism. The "real truth" is most countries are made up of a majority that are powerless individuals, and the only time it does right or wrong is by the puppet strings of politicians - hence labelling a country to blame is neglecting the corruption via the elite and transferring responsibility into the people who aren't latently responsible (though revolution could always be argued). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZBomber Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Yeh, anyway, please lock this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubatus Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Originally posted by ZBomber Yeh, anyway, please lock this thread.... Asking to have us silenced is worse than any criticism in this thread. Some fella once said something to the effect of: 'Ladies and gentlemen, I find your oppinions to be the worst babble, but I'll defend your right to utter them with my life!' - Freedom of speech, will you deny us that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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