Enjoi9187 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Ok, on a thread by insane sith he was showing everyone this spider: http://members.cox.net/quicksilverplaya/ketospiders.pk3 It was made by keto and if you look at it, it DEFINITLY looks like new animations, not just weighting tricks. So that means it IS possible right? for future models? This thread is just to let all modelers know that it is possible for future model reference (maybe like tabbards, or lekku) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3rr0r Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 it's been known for a while that new animations are possible... but with mp, there are some problems. edit: whoa, i just tried them and they are pretty cool... how the hell did he do that? and where is this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deetox187 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 i wondered the same thing myself when i tried the spider, it also appears to use a different skeleton which isn't supposed to be possible either right? wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_One Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Mmm new skeleton = Optimus Prime model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjai Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 its not new animations, he just used the leg bones on the legs and had the legs start in different spots so they dont look like theyre all moving at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deetox187 Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 well still we might be able to apply this trick to other models right i mean its a freakin spider how about we try makin somethin using this technique and wham have ultimate possibilities for model making until raven gives us what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoi9187 Posted October 6, 2002 Author Share Posted October 6, 2002 yeah, but then when raven DOES release the code, all the other models will seem.... artificial.... oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 oh well. what i need is someone to help me i plan on just making my own gohan model instead of converting like i was told was possible. ok if anyone would like to help i would appreciate it. and i will figure out how to do this manipulation of the skeleton thing ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgit Yoda Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Yeah Madjai is right. He's just odly weighted the legs and given them odd starting points. Good Idea though. I applaud his effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 you think its possible to change the running animation in the game. common, i don't think its a good idea running with your arms in a up and down motion with a saber on. you'll poke your eyes out!!! instead i suggest having one arm in the front and the other arm behind the back with the saber, saber pointing downwards. back slightly forward. you know like samurais in kung fu flix and japaneses anime. like in that game bushido blade. it just would make sense that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 exactly i take sword fighting lessons and the handling is wrong on so many levels but lburna is right they need to hold it like the samurais. the best example would be the side hold and charge like you have your sword/saber and hold it with both hands but extend it out to the right and when you reach the enemy you make an upward slash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-s/<itzo- Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 i just think it would be a good idea since george did lucas based jedis with samurais. same moral code only thing is instead of a sword its a lightsaber. tell me if i'm wrong cuz i think i heard this from a george lucas interview a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 its true becuase all there stuff is based off of samurais styles and principles.like i said before im a sword fighter and ive taken samurai lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t3rr0r Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 for the word jedi, george lucas was was inspired by the japanese jidai geki, which refers to a drama set in medieval japan during the time of the samurai. - the phantom menace scrapbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoi9187 Posted October 6, 2002 Author Share Posted October 6, 2002 actually, then that would mean that obi wan held it incorrectly all the time, because at the duel of the fates, when he is running to catch up with qui gon and and gets stuck behind the red laser, he runs just like in the game. And in the battle scene on ep 2, many jedi you can see run like that when they are charging. So basically, they wouldn't hold the saber like samaruis, because they werent trained like thtat exactly, they have the same principles which are to protect truth and justice throughout the galaxy, but the fighting style is much differnt than samaris(sp?). Also, when qui gon and obi run from the droidikas they hold it "incorrectly" also, so my point is, if you can flip around and swing a saber around your body without cutting ur head off, then im sure they can RUN like that without poking themselves in the eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madjai Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 its funny, after i played JK2 and watched ep1 again i noticed that when quigon and obiwan ran from the droidekas they used force speed, never noticed it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoi9187 Posted October 6, 2002 Author Share Posted October 6, 2002 hehe, that was the first thing i notcied in the movies, thought it was a glitch, then if you look down teh strip while they are running, they leave a trail . but that brings up the question, Why didnt obi-wan use force speed to catch up with qui gon while fighting maul 0_o? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenad Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Maybe he was too focused on the battle. If he had sped up but had not seen the laser traps forming, he could have been chopped up or something. I dunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 yeah thats true why didnt he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoi9187 Posted October 6, 2002 Author Share Posted October 6, 2002 sounds good.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enjoi9187 Posted October 6, 2002 Author Share Posted October 6, 2002 maybe it was because going that fast makes you lose your composure, for example they could do it to excape because there was nothing in their path to run into, but when qui gon was fighting, he was watching the battle as he ran, not try8in gto escape, another thought is that maybe he was just too tired, i mean it took a lot of force and strength to pull up onto the ledge after being kicked down a level, jumping up, then jumping up to the highest level, perhaps he just didnt have enough stamina to run, because of that huge fight. With the droideka's they didnt even break a sweat, so it was easy to force speed outta there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mest Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 or maybe when maul knocked him down a level he also got some medichlorians knocked out of him! . . . . jk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth]-[azard Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Those spiders are funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon_Cypher Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 I always thought of the Jedi as a mixture of samurai, ninja and the musketeers. For example, the musketeers ran around France, helping defuse problems in the countryside and to protect the king and queen, the Jedi solve problems, keep the peace and defend the Republic... but that's just my interpretation of it. However, the samurai weren't so noble. The samurai were usually into raping and pillaging, but they kept fighting as the highest honorable mention, living and dying by the sword. The ninja always incorporated stealth, as the jedi do, however the ninja were engaging in stealth simply because it was easier to accomplish their missions, the jedi seem to do it because it's quicker than disrupting the local activity and harms less people. But what do I know.. I'm just babbling on like this because I haven't slept in 2 days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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