Cosmos Jack Posted October 4, 2003 Share Posted October 4, 2003 Originally posted by XERXES hey Cosmos, going along with you saying that cloning isnt natural...I am interested to see how you would define nature. What is Nature? Well hmmm nature. Humans have done a very good job off taking ourselves out of the rest of the natural world. We don't live like our ancestors. We don't have any predators except ourselves and disease. When you walk down a street in a big city at night. What are you worried more about? Getting taken down by a Tiger or getting mugged? I understand what your saying I think. "what is nature?" I suppose this might suit the idea best. Is cloning natural in the natural world? NO... Is cloning natural for humanity to do? YES I'm sure lots of us have heard the term "Human Nature." I think you have to look at the rest of all life and humanity on two separate pallets. Lots of life forms change and shape the world around them to best suit their needs. None do it in such extravagant and complicated ways as humans. None see the world around them as we do. It's not instinct that tells you that you might get mugged walking down that street. It's the knowledge of the possibilities. We have sh!t for instincts and we have to learn almost everything we know. That's what separates us from other living things. That's human nature in my opinion. Nobody is born knowing how to build a sky scraper or put a suit of cloths together. Nobody is born knowing how to drive a car or shoot a gun. In comparison a simple form of life like a ant. Already knows how to work in the colony, how to hunt for food, and even how to walk from day one. Brain size complicates things. I think Scotty from Star Trek said it best. "The more you pipe up the pluming. The easer it is to stop up the drain." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Jack Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Have I killed another thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homuncul Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 and that we have something of like a 4% difference between a chimp Actually we're 98-99% alike chimpsjudging by DNA. Imagine Einstein differs from you in 1 millionth of a percent. So we are all almost Einsteins. Encouraging isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homuncul Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 We have sh!t for instincts and we have to learn almost everything we know. That's what separates us from other living things. That's human nature in my opinion. Not so far. Does the dog have an instict of a scent of its master? No, it learns it. The same thing is from mammals to dinosaurs, they learned things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Originally posted by Homuncul Actually we're 98-99% alike chimpsjudging by DNA. Imagine Einstein differs from you in 1 millionth of a percent. So we are all almost Einsteins. Encouraging isn't it. not really since einstein was a fraud and a complete imbecile, though he was intelligent enought to steal tesla's work. :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Jack Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 Originally posted by Homuncul Not so far. Does the dog have an instict of a scent of its master? No, it learns it. The same thing is from mammals to dinosaurs, they learned things. I never said animals didn't learn.. How much of their actions is controled by what they learn in comparison to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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