Remirol Nacnud Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 When tavion is possessed by Ragnos, she/he uses a sword that is enfused with dark side power. I wonder, is this what jedi used to battle with? Do any SW trivia buffs out there know how long light sabres are supposed to have been used? I just wonder if a sword like that was used by Ragnos in preference to a light sabre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavkov Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 wel in KOTOR you have light sabers and that is 4000years before SW:ANH!!! so i guess they were used a damn long time hehe kind of outdated weapon lol (JK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre_h Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 In the text RPG it says that there are Sith Swords Alchemicaly infused with the Dark Side of the force during their forging that can resist lightsabers. Basically its a non-energy lightsaber. They're made at the whim of a Dark Lord. Sometimes its because they don't have the resources for a lightsaber, and sometimes because they want something different. I think its kinda cool that they try to tie in elements from all the SW Universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Gunman Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Lightsabers have ben a part of the Jedi for at least 20,000 years, and during the Great Hyperspace War. however, primitive Lightsabers utilised a "frozen blastor" technology, and were nowhere near as efficient. most were single carved tubes of Deuranium Alloy, with one end sporting a crude crystal focussing aparatus, and the other end having a cable that connected to a belt mounted power pack. oh - do NOT trust KotOR for anything. its completely apocryphal. for a good idea of what that time period was like, read the Tales of the Jedi comic series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinny Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 i remember exar kun when he betrayed his master, his master used the force to make his wooden staff deflect kun's newly built saber so there was a wooden staff vs. lightstaff duel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavkov Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 hehe ddue dont laugh those old sith master were great and powerfull!! and not as foolished as Tavion and Derek and so on well i guess Palpatine was the last Great Sith! imagine the other ones that are buried on Korriban! there u have nightmare i can assure u! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Gunman Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 ive never been fond of the Sith. to me, they are nothing but generic power-mongering evil villains. but i have to give the older Sith Lords credit, most of them were downright ****ed up. like Naga Sadow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fractal-Coffee Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by Valin i have to give the older Sith Lords credit, most of them were downright ****ed up That's what makes them cool All the power of the Dark side added to some truly disturbing mindsets equals loads of fun for the whole family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Gunman Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 too a point, i guess. Marka Ragnos, Naga Sadow, and Ludo Kressh were beyond help - they were born into that life. the newer sith lords, like Freedon Nadd, Satal and Aleema Keto, Exar Kun, Lord Kaan, and Darth Bane - all were idoctrinated some how. most were either unhappy with their lives and wanted something more, or were too ambitious for their own good. either way, the Dark Side was easy for them to fall into. Sith Lords, trhrough history, have always ever been obsessed with one thing. Power. the need for more power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Well remember in JK2 when Luke said that Cortosis Armor resists Lightsabers ? Well play KOTOR and the swords in that game are made of Cortosis, the same material used in the Shadowtroopers armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Gunman Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 except that KotOR is completly apocryphal, and anything seen, or mentioned therein, cannot be taken as anywhere close to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavkov Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 and why is that? i find KOTOR very good and intresting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyGreggy Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by Igor_Cavkov hehe ddue dont laugh those old sith master were great and powerfull!! and not as foolished as Tavion and Derek Ah yes, the Great and Terrible Dark Lord Derek. Along with his equally Great and Awful Minions, Fred, Bert and Dave. I assume you mean Jerek from Jedi Knight. I knew what you meant, but just the name Derek in the same sentence as sith master made me laugh. The only Derek I know is as overtly gay as you can get and the nicest bloke you could wish to meet. Just trying to imagine him in as a Sith Lord is the funniest mental image I've had in a long time. Thanks for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remirol Nacnud Posted October 6, 2003 Author Share Posted October 6, 2003 And you've just given me an image of Bert and Ernie wielding light sabres. O.o Somehow Bert comes out as the dark jedi(in my head)..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cayqel Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 I knew what you meant, but just the name Derek in the same sentence as sith master made me laugh. Sorry to mix universes, but this reminds me of how Tolkien was going to call Sarumon, the Dark Lord Jeffery. Not too scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavkov Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 OFFTOPIC!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SITH LORD Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Has anyone read "The Golden Age of the Sith" and "The Fall of the Sith Empire"? The jedi used lightsabers that required a secondary power pack, the sith lords used blades made out of pure crystal with VERY ornate hilts. Since lightsabers require crystals to operate, perhaps the ancient jedi (light & dark--there were no sith during the ancient days of galactic civilization) made theirs the same way. If you read between the lines, the technology of the sith had not changed since their forebears were cast from the republic. Sith blades may have been primitive at the time of the Great Hyperspace War, but they were just as effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killabilly Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Just wondering... when was this Great Hyperspace War? And yeah... in the comics they used to use these really cool biological-like lightsabers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Jack Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Originally posted by Valin except that KotOR is completly apocryphal, and anything seen, or mentioned therein, cannot be taken as anywhere close to the truth. Not to come in and burst anyone's bubble here. "Star Wars isn't real." They can change the history of the story any time they want. Sometimes when a game comes out it does just that. Look at the difference between the old trilogy and the new trilogy. There is allot of gaps all, because over time certain things sounded better and Lucas got new ideas. I don't remember The Emperor being called Darth Sidious in the old trilogy. As I saw it Darth was Vader's 1st name not a title. They're many other things that is out of place. I might be wrong. So KOTOR might just be the new status quo for the history of Star Wars. George Lucas is very particular about what's in the games. There is allot of issues taken into account by Lucas arts before the game is made. Everything in the game KOTOR was approved by Lucas arts. If they say it's in the story it's in the story. "You must unlearn what you have learned" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Gunman Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 *sigh* Please...PLEASE...treat me like an intelligent human being, and not a drooling fanboy. YES - StarWars is not real. thank you, captain obvious. my point is this - KOTOR did not LOOk, or FEEL anything like the era it was supposed to protray. to a point, it looked as if 4000 years was five minutes - KOTOR looked a little too much like the movies we all know. you cant have a movie that takes place in victorian england, yet therein, court nobles ride around in corvettes, and bakers use microwaves. the storyline for KOTOR was fine - yet its proximity to the Sith War made it seem...tacked on. like a footnote that shoudve been a paragraph. you see? oh - the great Hyperspace War took place 20,000 years before Ep1 - 5000 years after the creation of the Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Jack Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 An the winner is? Nope not you sorry. Like I said before "drooling fan boy" "it's not real." lol:rolleyes: Nope you can't have court nobles riding around in corvettes, and bakers using microwaves in Victorian England, because that is real history and it didn't happen. In Star Wars you can have all that and so much more in any time frame you want. Why you might ask? It's not real and they can remake, change the history, and do it how they please. I don't understand how people get so worked up and tied up in things that aren't real. It's fiction and entertainment nothing more. Oh and it's not captain obvious it's Corporal Obvious. I worked when I was in the military thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Gunman Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 im wondering - if LucasArts OK'ed KotOR and, in that sense, its "part of the story" - then why does it look and feel so modern? thats not a question you can answer - and obviously a question that LucasArts didnt consider. that POINT was the hardest pill to swallow with the game. no, im not the winner. im just a guy. i like StarWars. and i like to see thinsg make sense. good for you if you dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaya Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 And i like to see things make sense Most of us do. But let's be realistic: There is so much in EU there is no way it could all fit together. Even the official movies have scenes that don't fit at all (especially if comparing trilogy 1 to trilogy 2). The truth is somewhere in the middle. KOTOR is looking modern to you? Fine, no one is forcing you to like it. But after all it's you thinking that it's modern. Maybe someone else feels differently. And that's the reason why you can't just waltz in an call KOTOR apocryphal and ignore all the background it gives us. GL signed it so it's as official as all the other material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire13 Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Originally posted by Cosmos Jack Oh and it's not captain obvious it's Corporal Obvious. I worked when I was in the military thank you very much. Hehehe! Your joke cracked me up. I was a Corporal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Jack Posted October 8, 2003 Share Posted October 8, 2003 Originally posted by Valin im wondering - if LucasArts OK'ed KotOR and, in that sense, its "part of the story" - then why does it look and feel so modern? thats not a question you can answer - and obviously a question that LucasArts didnt consider. Yes I can I read that myself. Long before the game came out. Lucas calls allot of the shots about what goes in the games. I give Lucas credit. He puts his nose in a every aspect of the Star Wars universe. It's his baby. As he has gotten older he has had better ideas and he has made allot of the hole idea he started with make more since. Kind of like the transition from Ankin Starslayer to Luke Skywalker in the early story. Originally posted by Valin no, im not the winner. im just a guy. i like StarWars. and i like to see thinsg make sense. good for you if you dont. [/b] The only thing that makes since with games and fictional stories is that they aren't real and they change at a any time. That's why you can't have a major in Star Wars history. To be perfectly honest KOTOR is probably so modern feeling, because it is. They do that to keep all the people interested. If you took out all the things that makes star wars, star wars for histories sake. It wouldn't be the star wars everyone knows and fewer people would be interested in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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