Darth Windu Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Bob - 1. Boba Fett died, George Lucas, the master of everything Star Wars, said so. 2. "I'll take the plans to my Master on Coruscant where they will be safe" - yeah, that really sounds like Sidious/Palpatine didnt know a thing... 3. That's all according to EU. As for where Jedi come from, as luke said, not everyone is force-sensative, its pretty much random. In fact, it is obvious that Jedi do NOT get married or get some lovin, becuase those sort of attachements can lead to the Jedi going to the dark side like Anakin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted December 24, 2003 Share Posted December 24, 2003 Here's another interesting tid bit for EUFs: recently Peter Mayhew (who plays Chewbacca) was asked what he thought of Chewie's death in the NJO series. Mayhew dismissed it, saying that only George Lucas' work is the real Star Wars. As you can imagine finding this out delighted me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterN64 Posted December 24, 2003 Author Share Posted December 24, 2003 Originally posted by Admiral Vostok Here's another interesting tid bit for EUFs: recently Peter Mayhew (who plays Chewbacca) was asked what he thought of Chewie's death in the NJO series. Mayhew dismissed it, saying that only George Lucas' work is the real Star Wars. As you can imagine finding this out delighted me. Who wouldn't be angry that his/her character dies in a unofficial book about the movie? And, a lot of EUF's didn'y like the idea of Chewie dieing either. So that wasn't exactly i likeable part in Star Wars in general for all Star Wars fans. Even I don't like it, i hate it so much i want to burn the book. Plz do continue Vostok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterN64 Posted December 25, 2003 Author Share Posted December 25, 2003 And another thing that i want to bring up in this Star Wars character death subject. EU authors only write about SW characters dying(Chewie) or coming bac to life(Boba) because they think it will give the books high sellings. They don't care if it messes with the movies or makes SW fans angry. If they sell the books its all good for them. Half of them probably haven't seen the movies, just the characters in general. (I know this goes against EUF's, but hey, im not a EUF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediStickmanBob Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Windu: (Somehow) "Ani" was a special case. Everybody else+Windu: good point. Everybody: I am not sure if I am an EU fan or purist. I like them both (again, somehow) probably because *sigh* I am a critic. (bum bum bum!) *NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediStickmanBob Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Isn't it weird how this idea of SWGB III spawned into talk of how Jedi turned to the Dark Side, who died and who didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediStickmanBob Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Oh, and can we Please talk about A-wings and how COOL they are since they are both in EU and purism we can both enjoy and appreciate them since they were an important part of the destruction of the Death Star and the annihilation of half the Imp's Starfleet? *gasp of air* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted December 25, 2003 Share Posted December 25, 2003 Bob - well, considering that no other Jedi in the films has a love interest, and Padme, a Senator and former Queen is under the impression that 'love was forbidden for a jedi', i think we can pretty much assume that jedi dont get married As for A-wings, i disagree. I think the Jedi Starfighter is MUCH cooler than the A-wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 NO! The A-Wing is better! Stop this EU vs. the Movies debate. I've just seen so many in my stay here...god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 I read most of the apprintace siries and loved it but I don't really have any transportation to get more. And when I do I always forget anyways, on topic, I think we should wait for SWGB2 before we talk about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 My point about Chewie dying wasn't so much that his death was an outrage, but that Peter Mayhew, like me, considers EU to not really be Star Wars. In fact character deaths aren't so bad, and are much more attractive that character resurrections. In the case of Chewie I wish it had happened sooner so he didn't have to be the Solo kids' nanny. One of the things that I used to hate about EU was that no-one ever died, it was like a bad sitcom where everything was back to normal at the end of the novel. There was one particular novel - either The Courtship of Princess Leia, which was the biggest load of rubbish I've ever read, or one of the Jedi Academy books, which many will know I have no love for - where Mon Mothma became very ill and was in danger of dying. I was reading the book thinking "finally some dramatic development" when at the end of the book Mon Mothma gets better. Not that I wish Mon Mothma dead, but it would have made a much better story if she had died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted December 28, 2003 Share Posted December 28, 2003 Vostok - that was the Jedi Academy trilogy. I'm actually enjoying EU, im up to the 7th book of the 'X-wing' series, and have 'I, Jedi' and 'The Courtship of Princess Leia' ready to go when i have the other two books of the series. My view on EU is that it's just fun - dont take it too seriously and its ok. As you may or may not know, im a big Star Trek fan. With the current series, Enterprise, i think that as a 'Star Trek' series, it is repulsive, but as a sci-fi show it's pretty good - this is the same sort of attitude i take with Star Wars EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Originally posted by Darth Windu Vostok - that was the Jedi Academy trilogy. I'm actually enjoying EU, im up to the 7th book of the 'X-wing' series, and have 'I, Jedi' and 'The Courtship of Princess Leia' ready to go when i have the other two books of the series. My view on EU is that it's just fun - dont take it too seriously and its ok. As you may or may not know, im a big Star Trek fan. With the current series, Enterprise, i think that as a 'Star Trek' series, it is repulsive, but as a sci-fi show it's pretty good - this is the same sort of attitude i take with Star Wars EU. I watch star trek, I like the originals, next generation, and voyager, they have some really great episodes. But to me deep space nine and enterprise were losers, and now that I think about it, it I just think of them as sci-fi shows.... their still repulsive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Really? I loved DS9, it was tied with TNG as my favourite Star Trek show. Voyager and the Original series were alright, but Enterprise is shockingly bad. I think the main reason that i liked DS9 was that it was a lot darker than any of the other series, dealing with conflict and death a lot more than the others did. Speaking of, anyone here seen the 'Ki-Adi-Mundi droid control ship raid' deleted from Ep2 but viewable on Star Wars Hyperspace? I've heard that its pretty good, but havent been able to see it coz im not going to pay any money for what should be free to loyal Star Wars fans - which i consider to be an outrage but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IG-64 Posted December 29, 2003 Share Posted December 29, 2003 Originally posted by Darth Windu Really? I loved DS9, it was tied with TNG as my favourite Star Trek show. Voyager and the Original series were alright, but Enterprise is shockingly bad. I think the main reason that i liked DS9 was that it was a lot darker than any of the other series, dealing with conflict and death a lot more than the others did. Speaking of, anyone here seen the 'Ki-Adi-Mundi droid control ship raid' deleted from Ep2 but viewable on Star Wars Hyperspace? I've heard that its pretty good, but havent been able to see it coz im not going to pay any money for what should be free to loyal Star Wars fans - which i consider to be an outrage but still... 'cmon, it's just $20 for a whole year, it's worth it, believe me. I've forgot about the money by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saberhagen Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 And LF would probably say that if you're not prepared to pay then you're not a loyal Star Wars fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterN64 Posted December 31, 2003 Author Share Posted December 31, 2003 Wow, this thread goes from SWGB III to EU then to Star Trek. What next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Battlestar Galactica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Well, personally i find it disgusting that i payed to see the films at the Cinema, then i pay to hire out the DVD's to see the deleted scenes, then i pay to buy the VHS' (gonna get the DVD's later) - and now they want me to pay even more to see one f**king deleted scene that should have been on the Ep2 DVD. Quite frankly, i would burn all of my Star Wars related products before i pay to see material that should be free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saberhagen Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Why should it be free? They're a business, they exist to make money. Disgust is a vice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Yeah, what saberhagen said. I don't see why it should be free at all. And considering all the other stuff you get for joinging hyperspace.com, I'd say it's quite fairly priced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 You dont have to pay to see deleted scenes on starrek.com. You dont have to pay to download additional items for 'The Sims' from Maxis. Many, if not all, new DVD's have deleted scenes on them along with other bonus material. Only some pieces of scum, like Lucasfilm, ask you to pay to see deleted scenes on a DVD, then pay again to see others online, that should have been on the DVD. To me, all this is, is trying to squeeze every last cent out of fans. Star Trek doesnt do it, they didnt do it with Indianna Jones, James Bond, Aliens etc etc. Why Star Wars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Complain all you want Windu, if you were the owner of some very popular serie, you'd do the same thing. As we all would... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Exactly how is that an excuse? Apart from no-one here knowing me well enough to predict what i would do, there is absolutely no justification in what lucasfilm and starwars.com has done. Being such a successful and wealthy franchise, there is no need to charge fans to see extra footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saberhagen Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 And what kind of Star Wars fan calls Lucasfilm "scum"??? The price of anything is as much as someone is prepared to pay for it. The very fact that you are so desperate to see these scenes suggests that there is a market for them. Also there is a need to charge for web content because making it available incurs extra costs on top of the costs of making the films. Video clips tend to be huge files and if there is significant demand for them that's going to use a lot of bandwidth. I doubt that hyperspace makes a huge profit when you take its running costs into account. If you don't want to pay to see this stuff, don't buy it, but stop complaining. I won't be paying for this scene cos I don't think it's worth seeing. The deleted scenes on the TPM DVD just confirmed that scenes are usually deleted for a good reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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