lukeiamyourdad Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Besides, consider hyperspace like a magazine. You have to subscribe to the magazine or buy it at the newstand in order to read it and get whatever is inside right? Then Hyperspace is like a magazine that grants you exclusive stuff from the set of Ep.3 + they give you the chance of watching a deleted scene. It's all natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterN64 Posted January 3, 2004 Author Share Posted January 3, 2004 I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 saberhagen - so, because im a Star Wars fan, that means that im not allowed to be annoyed with the people who make the films? No offense, but thats a pretty stupid statement. luke - actually, no. At the newsagent, i read the magazines but dont buy them unless there is a lot of good stuff, and there is only one thing in 'hyerspace' that interests me. I mean, really, who gives a crap about coloured bulletin board nicknames? Aside from that, i dont want to know anything about Ep3 because i want everything to be a suprise when i go see it - so why should i pay all of this money to see a deleted scene that isnt even completed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Then why do you want to see it if it's uncompleted therefore not worth seeing? I don't how newstands work in Australia but in North America they don't let you read the magazines without paying... Look, think like a businessman. You see all these fans who really want to see a particualr deleted scene. You own all the rights to the movie in question and can do whatever you want with it. As a bussinessman, do you: A) Give it away making 0$ in the process? or B) Charge money because some fans are ready to pay to see it? Lucasfilm ain't no charitable organization. They're here to make money. Don't expect them to give away so much free stuff. Hell, for everything that's on regular starwars.com they should charge us something(if any owner of Lucasfilm is reading this, that is NOT a suggestion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 No, in Australia, the mags and newspapers are set up so that you can look through them rather than having to buy them first. Anyhow, yes, Lucasfilm is a business, but i see the two options a little differently. 1. Allow fans to see the scene for free as a reward for their devotion to Star Wars and paying all of their money to see the films - of which this scene was originally a part. 2. Make fans pay, thereby squeezing even more mobney out of them, and shutting off content from those who cant afford it or object to being forced to pay to see an unfinished scene. The reason i want to see this scene is because it sounds interesting as i heard quite a bit about it but have never seen it. If it had been completed with special effects and whatnot, i can see the justification for charging fans for access - but the point is that it ISNT finished, they didnt spend any extra money on the scene, so why should i pay them to see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Because it's their property. They do what they like with it. They could have completely kept it away from everyone. If you're that desperate go try to download it from kazaa or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Actually i tried Kazaa but couldnt find it As i said though, if the scene had been completed with special effects, i can understand why they would charge people to see it, as the completion of the scene would have cost a bit of money. My point is though that they DIDNT spend any money on it, so there is no good reason to charge people to see the scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 They did spend money on it. Hell, you have to pay the actors, the scenery...even if it's deleted they get paid. Since Lucasfilm lost money in this scene, they charge people money to sompensate for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DarthMaulUK Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 This has gone WAY off topic - but for now, i will just be keeping an eye on it. DMUK ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Eh well, we only have two thread alive right now so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DarthMaulUK Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Thats why im only watching ;-) DMUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swphreak Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 This is why I don't get involved with the EU vs Canon. Too much to read, and I'm too lazy to type a long reply to all the remarks. Either, way, EU rules. And Star Trek doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Windu Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 luke - not true. The money spent on that scene was part of the Episode 2 budget, the same as all of the other deleted scenes. Therefore, there are no extra costs that fans should have to pay for. Do you really beleive that the actors got payed when starwars.com put this scene on its site? Lets start living in the real world. You still havent been able to come up with a good argument against my assertion that, if the scene was completed, there would be a good reason to charge fans to see it, but because it wasnt completed, there is no good reason. Phreak - i disagree about EU, but agree about Star Trek at the moment - 'Enterprise' is a complete disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Vostok Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 On the subject of living in the real world, perhaps you need to realise, Windu, that nothing in life is free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Originally posted by Darth Windu You still havent been able to come up with a good argument against my assertion that, if the scene was completed, there would be a good reason to charge fans to see it, but because it wasnt completed, there is no good reason. Argh, God they give you a chance to see it already. They don't have to do that. They don't have to set up hyperspace, they don't have to set up an official site or do anything. You that use so many real world examples, you should be more realistic. Vostok is totally right. As sad as it is, NOTHING in the world comes free, nothing is totally free, if you want some freebies, grow them in your garden. As long as you don't own it, it's not you who decides its fate. This scene was never supposed to be shown but fans heard about it and then everybody wants to see it. Look, I'm not rich, not anything near rich but I've come to realise that in the world, in this world, making money is basically the only way to survive. These people are making their money here, you pay 20 $ for a year of special exclusive content from ep3. Now here, if a magazine has an exclusive playable demo for some console game, you have to pay for the magazine to get that demo. Same thing here, this magazine has the exclusive right to this one deleted scene and you have to pay for the magazine to get it. Is that so complicated? Why don't you send an e-mail to Lucasfilm complaining about this? They would turn you down so easily. You have to realise that these guys are businessmen and women. You have to realise that these people are here to make money and they don't really care about â few persons who complaint about this because most of the other hyperspace members are quite happy with their services and the content they're getting from it. Some of them even paid only to see this deleted scene and the businessman thinks about it for a second and says :"Hey, people are willing to pay money to see this! Let's rip them off!" Unless you live in a certain utopia, where everyone is so nice and charitable to the others including businessmen, you have to face reality that nothing can stop these people from doing what they want with what they own. Hell, if you wanted to charge people for seeing your home movies after you bought the rights to them, you could! You believe what you want to believe, you live in your little utopian dream, I'm going to try to iomprove my real world, not stupidly trying to change everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediStickmanBob Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 CAN WE PLEASE STOP ARGUING??!!!! Windu: I have seen all of Star Trek and "Enterprise" is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off subject. I agree IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterN64 Posted January 22, 2004 Author Share Posted January 22, 2004 As the starter of this little thread i feel that WE SHOULD STOP THE ARGUING!!!! You guys can continue this little argument on another thread. Moderators: Feel free to close!!!!! I'm tired of this thread!!!!! MAKE THEM MAKE ANOTHER THREAD FOR THIS!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!! OR AT LEAST CLOSE IT!!!!!! Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeiamyourdad Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 It's been over for quite awhile now. Because of you guys, it's been ressurrected. Besides, it's very common for threads to go off-topic and arguing is what we do best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterN64 Posted January 29, 2004 Author Share Posted January 29, 2004 Well i am glad everyone has stopped posting in this little thread. A little less arguing in the world wont do any harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediStickmanBob Posted February 9, 2004 Share Posted February 9, 2004 I resent that. (no offense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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