GMAX bug

[Xavier2]

Hello guys!

 

I know i'm a newbie, but i'm trying to improve my abilities by understanding the modding process as whole. In my early stages of modding i decided that i would concentrate in changing the overall appearence of the game since, to me, its the most atractive part of the game fun.

 

Changing models, textures and stuff like that are, likelly, the areas of my modding exp i'll focus on.

 

For that matter, i'd like some help with a problem i bumped in:

 

1-I extracted, MDLOPS, the .mdl and .mdx for the male, caucasian heads #4 and #5;

2-Converted the .mdl to anscii-mdl with MDLOPS;

3-Imported the anscii-mdl to GMAX, using the NWNMax 0.7, plug-in;

4-Moved, rotate, selected, etc the head so i could figure how the model is built, but never editing or changing the models;

5-Saved the heads as a standard GMAX file so i could play with it later and experiment my modding abilities;

6-Attempted to open those files later and...

7-GMAX crashes suddenly.

 

The strange thing is that those files should be corrupted somehow cuz when i try to see them in the save folder with Windows explorer, Explorer.exe also crashes with some error message.

 

What did i do wrong?. I just read all the sticks about 3D models and no one could be much of a help. I read for instance those trheads about GMAX models with the Blaster Carbine example and the other one with tips, and i must confess that, english not being my primarye language, it was very difficult to understand, too much tech speech, no commas...Very hard to translate, no offense meant to those who wrote them, its just me.

 

Any step by step help would be very appreciated.

[cchargin]

Hello,

 

Wow, sounds like you have an odd problem there.

 

Have you tried doing something simple in gmax like just create a sphere then save it as a gmax file and see if you can open it?

 

In the past I have seen instances where just clicking on a file in windows explorer could cause problems and it always ended up being either a corrupt file, or the anti-virus was having problems with the file.

 

I should also mention that you should not double-click a gmax file in explorer to open it. Nwmax is a script and needs to fully run before you open a model. Double-clicking a gmax file that has a kotor model in it might not work if gmax tries to load objects before the nwmax has finished running.

[Xavier2]

Originally posted by cchargin

Hello,

 

Wow, sounds like you have an odd problem there.

 

Have you tried doing something simple in gmax like just create a sphere then save it as a gmax file and see if you can open it?

Something happened! I did as you suggested and i can save the file (the sphere), but not open it, then GMAX suddenly crashes. I never tried to open the files by double-clicking, instead i just opened the Scenes folder (default for saving files) with the Windows explorer and it crashes. :confused:

 

Should i uninstall and install again?

[cchargin]

hello,

 

I would suggest running a scan disk on your hard drive.

 

Then un-install and re-install gmax.

[Xavier2]

Originally posted by cchargin

hello,

 

I would suggest running a scan disk on your hard drive.

Then un-install and re-install gmax.

I'll try it. Yesterday i uninstalled GMAX, and NWMax and Installed in a diferent hard drive in my machine. Odd think is that it doesn't ask for the registration key. This key must be placed somewhere else, since i deleted the GMAX folder.

 

Still, the crash problem remains. Intersting stuff though is that i runned DirectX Diag to see if it was any problem concerning the 3D drive and DX Diag advises there were problems at the last attempt to access Direct 3D.

 

Then i ren all the Directx tests and everything is as it should be. Kotor for instance runs smothly and ok. Every other program including Photoshop 7 runs ok. Hard to say whats going on.

 

But thank you very much for your concern, i'll let you what happened when i perform your suggestion.

[Xavier2]

Glad to say i resolved the problem. Actually it seems its a pretty common bug, due to a Security patch Microsoft released. Apparently, according to people in GMAX Forum, it blocks the access to Direct 3D. In order to resolve this, a new security patch was launched. I downloaded and installed it with Windows update and the bug is gone!!!

 

'd like to ask the moderators to change the title of this thread to GMAX Bug or something, so anybody with the same problem could see it.

 

See ya!!!

[Darth333]

Was that Microsoft's SP2? What patch was it? would be nice to put the details - problem + solution -

 

Is Windows a virus?

[Xavier2]

Originally posted by Darth333

Was that Microsoft's SP2? What patch was it? would be nice to put the details - problem + solution -

 

Is Windows a virus?

According with GMAX Forum in Turbo Squid the Security patch should be this one:

"To Browser Ice, thankyou for the direction. I ended up on the MS website and to Brett Scudder(and others who may have the same problem)this is a known problem with win2000 and xpand you need to download and install the security patch KB824146. Check the xp version, this number is for 2000. I did all this(and made backups and repair disks as recommended) and am pleased to say can now reopen g-max files I have saved.

Thankyo again.

Brian " quote From user Brian Nelson.

 

Since information in that forum seems to conflict regarding this and i haven't found that particular security patch . I decided to download all the critical security patchs, as reccomended by Microsoft. I didn't downloaded anything else, especially service pack 2. It works, although i can't say exactly wich is the "one".

 

I can remember though that one of those Security patches (KB839643), mentions something about Direct X, as follows (like this):

"To resolve a security matter that causes DirectX, or applications using DirectX, not to work properly".

 

Hope its enough

[Darth333]

Thanks

[Xavier2]

Holly mother of GOD!!!

 

I was working in a MOd using GMAX and the same problem mentioned in first thread happened again. Lost all the work i was doing.

 

I give up GMAX. I'm gona try look for another software, although the NWMax plug-in is sure handy. If any of you care to tip me how to work this out, either fixing the bug or pointing to another program i'd appreciate.

 

Thanks

[svösh]

Use OpenGL drivers with gmax and 3dsmax

 

Direct 3d causes all kinds of view port problems in fact I would be surprised if you can even read the view port tag names with direct3d drivers.

 

Open Gmax go to > Customize > Preferences… > click the View port Tab on the right side near the bottom click the Choose Driver… button change to OpenGL click ok

 

Close gmax and restart it But use the NwNmax icon to start Gmax Don’t use the Gmax desktop icon or Double click any .gmax files in win explorer or as cchargin already said you will have problems…

 

I hope this helps to sort out the problems your having

 

svösh

[Xavier2]

Originally posted by svösh

Use OpenGL drivers with gmax and 3dsmax Direct 3d causes all kinds of view port problems in fact I would be surprised if you can even read the view port tag names with direct3d drivers.

 

Thank you very much:) :) i contacted everyone in discreet and nobody did tell me this. Should i do any changes to my graphic card also? My GeForce 2 MX 400 64MB has a driver file named nvoglnt.dll referencing to openGL installable client driver. Is it enough?

 

Xavier2

[svösh]

Your very welcome If you can play games with it I’m sure it is, I have an ATI RADEON and have had ATI ever since my first pc so can’t be of much help with that. But by using the Open Gl driver to run Gmax you should be fine.

 

Let us know how it turns out

 

svösh

[Xavier2]

Originally posted by svösh

Use OpenGL drivers with gmax and 3dsmax Direct 3d causes all kinds of view port problems in fact I would be surprised if you can even read the view port tag names with direct3d drivers.

 

Let us know how it turns outsvösh

Till now everything is runing smoth. The only problem is my GMAX skills. The tutorials just cover the basics. Care to be a professor of the professor? >cough< you know professor Xavier...

bad joke:anvil:

 

Xavier2