stingerhs Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 okay, heres the plan: i'm gonna make a lightsaber pack based on the seven lightsaber styles. obviously, i won't be able to entirely duplicate the saber styles in the expanded universe, but i'll do what i can to make lots of sabers that will benefit most peoples' preferred saber style. just a note: there will not be any overpowered or insta-kill lightsabers in the pack. for those that have never heard of the seven lightsaber styles, here they are: I-very basic style: basically an import of sword-fighting techniques with lightsabers. ie, the jedi students in aotc II-lightsaber mastery:uses much more advanced tactics that take full advantage of the lightsaber's abilities. ie, count dooku III-defensive: mostly developed to deflect blaster bolts, this technique makes a jedi virtually invincible. ie, obi-wan. IV-acrobatic: uses the full 3-d space for attack and defense; uses a lot of acrobatics to disorient the opponant. ie, yoda. V-attack: combines power with focus on attacking an opponant; deflects blaster bolts directly back at the shooter. ie, vader. VI-blend: combines techniques I, II, IV, & V. standard form of combat for jedi. also known as the "diplomat's style" VII-precision: uses the full capabilities of the jedi; difficult to master, because it relies on emotions and the inner workings of the jedi to achieve a quick resolution. ie, darth maul & mace windu well, gotta get to work, c-ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBundy Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 intresting idea, I heard the official name of the 7th style is "Vapaad" thats about all I know, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamador Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTV2 Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 This sounds great, but when is gonna b released(aprox.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono_Giganto Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Cool I love stance mods in JA, this looks promising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shosey Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 this sounds interesting, good luck to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frinklin Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Stinger.. man, you're nothing if not ambitious. Good luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 8, 2004 Author Share Posted September 8, 2004 alright, more info, well, details anyway. first of all, i will be creating several distinct lightsabers for each style. several will have ls and ds distinctions. also, i have done some more research, and i have found that certain styles allow for different types of saber types. ie, VII allows for duel blades, single blade, and staff blade varients, while III is traditionally a single blade only. were talking about at least 14 sabers, and probably more. i'm also coming up with ideas to differentiate the sabers of one style from the other via their skins, as well as new lines in the baseitems.2da. as for making them upgradeable, i'm thinking that only a few will be upgradeable, the rest will be 'as is'. anyway, thanx for the feedback. i'll go ahead and get started. btw, if any of you are interested in helping with the reskins, pm me and i'll get back to you. :D edit: Originally posted by Frinklin Stinger.. man, you're nothing if not ambitious. Good luck... hey, its people with ambitions that get the rest of the world places. btw, i'll need that luck, so, thanx!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 8, 2004 Author Share Posted September 8, 2004 quick question, is there a way to make it so that you can bind an off-hand weapon to a standard weapon? ie, make it so that a short saber is bound to another short saber so that no other sabers can be uses in the off-hand while one is equipped??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodakrattler Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 You could do it the way the republic special forces equipment does it, by making it so the primay weapon gives you a special feat and the off-hand wepon requires that feat in order to be equiped. That's the only thing I can think of I hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mav Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Good luck stinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amezaroth Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Hey stinger I could try to help you with skinning the sabers in the future, I have some time on my hands now as I've postponed the Skywalker clothing mod since it's too much work for some one with as little skill as I have at reskinning. But I think I can do weapon skin since they have so little to reskin... You know how to contact me, and the the Canderous reskin is coming along nicely... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 9, 2004 Author Share Posted September 9, 2004 okay people, i've decided to give you guys a quick sample of some of the stats, so here ya go: base type I: (basic) weapon wield: battleaxe melee weapon proficiency required Damage 2d9 Energy On hit, Stun DC12, 3 sec Critical Threat 20-20,x2 These sabers are very crude in construction and do little to improve upon standard swords, thus, anyone could use them. base type II: (lightsaber mastery) weapon wield: battleaxe lightsaber proficiency required short saber model Damage 5d15 Energy +3 Attack vs DS +3 Attack vs LS Dueling Feat (1-3) Lightsaber Focus Edit: Lightsaber Specialization Force Speed Blaster Deflection -2 Critical Range 19-20,x2 These sabers take full advantage of the weapon's abilities vs other lightsabers. However, its abilities are severely weakened whenever faced with a blaster-wielding enemy. base type III: (defensive) weapon wield: battleaxe lightsaber proficiency required Damage 8d20 Energy +5 Defense +3 Blaster Deflection -2 Attack +2 Dexterity Dueling Feat (1 only) Jedi Defense (1-3) Critical Range 19-20,x2 Users of these sabers are usually next to impossible to hit, but at a cost of attacking the opponant. base type IV: (acrobatic) lightsaber proficiency required normal weapon wield short saber for off-hand staff saber standard saber for main hand Short Damage 5d15 Energy Staff Damage 7d22 Energy Standard Damage 8d20 Energy +2 Attack +2 Defense Force Jump (1-3) Flurry (1-3) Two-Weapon (1-3) Lightsaber Focus Jedi Defense (1-2) Critical Range 18-20,x2 Users that prefer to mix martial arts with a lightsaber use these weapons. base type V: (power) lightsaber profieciency required standard saber (main hand) short saber (off hand) Standard Damage 10d27 Energy Short Damage 8d20 Energy +5 Attack +2 Defense +5 Blaster Deflection Two-Weapon (1-2) Dueling (1-2) Critical Strike (1-3) Power Attack (1-3) Lightsaber Focus Critical Range 17-20,x2,2d6 Sometimes, the best defense is a good offense, and these weapons put that saying to good use. base type VI: (diplomat's style) lightsaber proficiency required standard, short, and staff sabers these will be the in-game sabers, but with these additions: +2 Attack +2 Defense +1 Blaster Deflection Critical Strike (1-2) Power Attack (1-2) Flurry (1-2) Dueling Feat (1-2) Two-Weapon (1) Lightsaber Focus base type VII: (precision) lightsaber proficiency required lightsaber focus required Edit: Force Sensitive required standard saber (with battleaxe wield) staff saber Standard Damage 14d32 Energy Staff Damage 13d34 Energy +5 Attack +5 Defense +5 Blaster Deflection Critical Strike (1-3) Power Attack (1-3) Flurry (1-3) Force Jump (1-3) Dueling Feat (1-3) Two-Weapon (1-3) Jedi Defense (1-3) Lightsaber Specialization Critical Threat 17-20, x3, 2d6 Users of these weapons are either part of the darkside or the lightside due to their ability to involve the jedi's emotions and innerworkings in a battle. These are the ultimate sabers, and the most difficult to master. whew, that took just a bit of typing. if you have any questions or comments, feel free to ask (there is a purpose to me posting these stats, if you don't know ). later folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorden Darkblade Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Sounds great so far dude Keep up the good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucied Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 awsome dude it sounds great just one question thought are u gnnna make new hilts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 9, 2004 Author Share Posted September 9, 2004 Originally posted by Lucied awsome dude it sounds great just one question thought are u gnnna make new hilts? sorry, but nobody knows how to do that just yet because we haven't unlocked animations. so you know, the animation is the blade being activated/deactivated. if i could make new hilts, i would, but for now, we'll just have to live with reskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shosey Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 I am starting to like the sound of this more and more. I think this is one I will definatly use! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 just so you guys get the scope of this project, i just got done adding 9 lines to my baseitems.2da. on top of that, if you didn't get it in my last post, the in-game sabers will be granting a lot of stuff (read the base style VI section in my post). in other words, those weapons are being completely reworked (minus the skins, unless i have a volunteer ). just a warning, this could end up being a sizeable file due to the sheer number of sabers this will include, not to mention a massive baseitems.2da and a upcrystals.2da (not very many in that one, though). anyway, i am happy to report that the style I sabers are complete (again, minus the reskins). much more work to be done. stay tuned... Edit: almost forgot to post a time frame. umm, i'm thinking a couple weeks due to the reskins. the weapons are actually quite easy to make (courtesy of fred tetra's kotor tools ), and to be honest, i'm surprised somebody didn't think of this sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shosey Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 sounds like you're making good progress. If I was any good at reskins I'd help out - but like I have said many times - I can't draw for the life of me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 13, 2004 Author Share Posted September 13, 2004 wheew!! what a weekend. i think i may have gotten umm, 12 hrs of sleep in 3 days. with family visiting, my job, and school work, i've gotton about 2 things done for the mod over three days. :headbump lets just say its been delayed... :fist: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 14, 2004 Author Share Posted September 14, 2004 ok, current progress: styles I-V are complete. style VI will take some time, but not much. umm, i will be doing style VII before i work on style VI so that i can get that out of the way. as far as reskins, i'm still looking for volunteers, so don't hesitate to do so. thanx folks!! i'll be back later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 15, 2004 Author Share Posted September 15, 2004 i just had an idea. i'm gonna make it so that after you complete the training and become a padawan, you will get the option to choose a new saber style ranging from 2-5. just a note: the first saber you get will be a style six saber, as will all of the current in-game sabers. another note: you will be able to get style I sabers on taris in order to make things a bit more interesting. of course, you'll get the rest of the sabers as you go. anyway, i gots more work to do, so i'm headin out...for the time being anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 20, 2004 Author Share Posted September 20, 2004 okay, final update before the release: the sabers are done. finished. good to go. etc. etc. etc. all i need to do is finish the skins. i'll post them on pcgamemods.com within a couple of days. to all those that volunteered to help (amezaroth), thanx. btw, this will include one of achillies skins (the obi-wan kenobi saber skin) for one of the sabers. just so credit goes where credit is due. well, later folks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreGarrett Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 Trying not to start a new game intill these come out. And are they going to upgraded or are they just how they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingerhs Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 Originally posted by HardcoreGarrett Trying not to start a new game intill these come out. And are they going to upgraded or are they just how they are? they're upgraded to the point that they fit the description of a type VI saber. btw, try starting a game w/o the sabers first so that it won't be too easy. just a suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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