[TSL] New Robe WIP

[Darth_ToMeR]

Something I've been working on-

http://forumsgallery.tapuz.co.il/ForumsGallery/galleryimages/477_0303200565643.jpg

I got an idea for another robe, but I need to try it.

Comments please.

[T7nowhere]

I like the color, however the coat looks a little over color saturated. Maybe its the screen shot.

[Lorden Darkblade]

I have a question, how do you re-skin without removing the black lil things?

I think it is called texture, it is what makes the robe looks like a real thing.

What program you use? I wanted, if possible, to learn how to do in in PhotoSHop CS.

[Darth_ToMeR]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi

I have a question, how do you re-skin without removing the black lil things?

I think it is called texture, it is what makes the robe looks like a real thing.

What program you use? I wanted, if possible, to learn how to do in in PhotoSHop CS.

I open the TGA file (the texture file) with Photoshop, then I reskin over it. It's not making all the file from nothing. I'll be happy to help you if you want, and please tell me what you think about the skin.

[sketch42]

wow ... i like it... perfect color... at least for my tastes....

 

T7 what do you mean by oversaturated??

[Lorden Darkblade]

Sorry I forgot, it looks great man, why else I would be asking for help if I didnt liked it?

What I mean is, how you change the color of specific parts but not removing the texture?

I think its called texture.

Lemme try to say simple, just how you change the main color without removing the details?

[Darth_ToMeR]

Thank you all. T7, I'll check the color.

Uchiha Itachi, That's what I'm doing.

 

Open the texture file with Photoshop, then in the menu (the left bar) select "lasso tool" (you can change it to "polygonal tool", which I think is better, by clicking on it and dragging). Now select the part you want to recolor. In the layer window (should be on the right. if you don't have any, open 'window' menu and select 'layers') look down, you will see circle.

Click on it and select "Hue/Saturation".

Check the box named "colorize" and use the Hue and Saturation to change the color. That's the Basic, but you can use more effects. Hope this helps, and if you don't understand something tell me.

 

And by "oversaturated" I think he meant 'too much color,' right?

[Cmdr. Thanatos]

I like the color the way it is

 

But you should add some work to the collar (or lack thereof).

 

Just a thought.

[Mono_Giganto]

Awesome.

 

(You of all people deserve the one word comment lol... Even though I just ruined it.)

 

My instant Dark Jedi Robe replacement. I love the blue tint.

 

BTW, I had that same problem with Atton's face texture. (It looks like you have the line down the middle.) Two ways to fix it that I've discovered: Set Anisotropic Filtering to 0, but then other textures suck, or open swkotor2.ini and change Anisotropic filtering there to 8. The game will still run textures under 2x but Atton's line is gone.

[Lorden Darkblade]

Thanks Darth_ToMeR I'll try to skin now

[General Kenobi]

Originally posted by Darth_ToMeR

Thank you all. T7, I'll check the color.

Uchiha Itachi, That's what I'm doing.

 

Open the texture file with Photoshop, then in the menu (the left bar) select "lasso tool" (you can change it to "polygonal tool", which I think is better, by clicking on it and dragging). Now select the part you want to recolor. In the layer window (should be on the right. if you don't have any, open 'window' menu and select 'layers') look down, you will see circle.

Click on it and select "Hue/Saturation".

Check the box named "colorize" and use the Hue and Saturation to change the color. That's the Basic, but you can use more effects. Hope this helps, and if you don't understand something tell me.

 

And by "oversaturated" I think he meant 'too much color,' right?

 

I just wanted to add one piece of advice. When selecting sections to recolor or edit them even to apply a new texture. After selecting it I'm a big fan of making it a new layer by doing a "layer via copy" and then you can go over your layers pallette and hold down the control key and click once and it will select the layer in a selection again. Then I'd do a "adjustment layer" This way you can recolor it to whatever and later go back and readjust over and over. Save it first as a .psd file with layers then flatten the image and save as a .tga.

NOTE OF A HINT: One added use for this is you can have your arrow tool selected and simply go over the piece of text or graphic you want to edit and hit the CTRL key and it will automatically select whatever layer you are over that has that particular picture on it. Most of my reskins so far are about 20 layers when I'm ready to flatten it for a .tga.

 

Just a helpful thought... Darth Malignous

[General Kenobi]

OOH YEAH,

 

And if your only beginning in the world of Photoshop

 

If you make every little change a layer you can also play with the "blending" options of the layer. i.e. Multiply, Overlay, Hard Light.

 

It can come in really handy when laying over a new texture onto a character or object. Later on if you don't like it in game, open up your .psd file make the changes to the layers and save a copy again of the .tga file...

 

[Lorden Darkblade]

Ok I suck at this....

i'm trying to change to a gray. I'm using the sith robe as base.

But to way you told me is kinda limited the choices I found out another way: create a layer then try to merge then but still, I can't make it look good.

How you people recolor the robes?

[Ajunta Pall]

Nice. Just makes me wish I had TSL on PC... Oh, long time no see, Tomer .

[General Kenobi]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi

Ok I suck at this....

i'm trying to change to a gray. I'm using the sith robe as base.

But to way you told me is kinda limited the choices I found out another way: create a layer then try to merge then but still, I can't make it look good.

How you people recolor the robes?

If your wanting to recolor a robe .tga picture file. Use photoshop to open it and select the Polygon Lasso Tool (the selection tool that draws straight lines) and select one section of the robe. Then do a new layer via an "adjustment layer" The adjustment layer for what you are wanting I'd use hue/saturation. If your wanting it to be gray then turn the saturation down. If your wanting another color simply adjust the hue/saturation/lightness to alter the robe to the color you want. Then click ok. It has made a new layer with only the adjustments you made on it. If that layer is to "dull" looking and needs some contrast to it, do this. Hold down the control key and left click on the adjustment layer you just made. This will make a selection the same shape as your adjustment you just made. Then click on the "background" or your original layer. Then do another adjustment layer, this time picking brightness and contrast. You can adjust these to give the robes more contrast.

 

Hope that helps...

 

Ooh, PS I'm speaking from Photoshop standpoint on that BTW...

[Lorden Darkblade]

I think it worked now....

Still this way is not the best way to recolor in my opnion.

It's based on guesses to find the color number.

Or perhaps I'm searching in the wrong way.

[General Kenobi]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi

I think it worked now....

Still this way is not the best way to recolor in my opnion.

It's based on guesses to find the color number.

Or perhaps I'm searching in the wrong way.

Well it saves time in the long run. Once you've recolored one section of the robe to the right shade you want. On that layer thats an adjustment layer is a path with the areas that are affected. Once you have it the way you want, all you have to do is select a new section of the robe and as long as you are on the adjustment layer path in the layers pallet you can simply fill with black or white to activate new sections where the color is to take effect. It takes longer to setup but once you do you just select and fill with white or black. (1/2 effect fill with 50% gray)

[Harker]

Looks good Tomer!

Great color!!!

 

If I could offer anything, it would be to add a little more distinction between the undershirt, the overshirt, and the robe. I like how the pants nearly match the robe.

 

Also, I did this for my robes, is take a piece of either robe/cloth or boot/leather texture and use it around the neck line (usually a black void or solid some other color that just looks strange.)

 

Lastly, I'd take the boot texture and copy that to where to the hand textures are. Personally, I can't stand the "black void" gloves that some many default textures have... very strange!

Having skinned one of these particular robes before, I can tell you the hand texture area is a lot larger than you'd think. When testing, i find that if I take like a pink or neon green color and paint the areas where I "think" a hand is, I can load it up and guage where it is on the flat tpc.

[Darth_ToMeR]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi

I think it worked now....

Still this way is not the best way to recolor in my opnion.

It's based on guesses to find the color number.

Or perhaps I'm searching in the wrong way.

You can just move the arrow below it. Or I didn't understand?

Harker, thanks for the tips, I'll try it.

[Lorden Darkblade]

What I'm trying to say is that this way is too much randomic.

You cant be exact on what color you want.

There must be a better way to select colors to recolor it.

[General Kenobi]

If you don't like this way you could always make a new layer and take your brush or paintbrush and pick the color you want set the opacity of the brush up enough to allow the underneath layer to show through and paint over it. I'd recommend you desaturate the original to grayscale prior to applying color. That way you can pick a specific color. You can use the swatches pallette or tell pshop the color you want (example: University of Kentucky blue is 100%Cyan 60%Magenta 0%Yellow 6%Black). Thats the way I apply a very specific color or shade of color to something if I want it to be specific.

[Darth_ToMeR]

Originally posted by Uchiha Itachi

What I'm trying to say is that this way is too much randomic.

You cant be exact on what color you want.

There must be a better way to select colors to recolor it.

Are you sure you select 'colorize' before changing Hue and Saturation?

[Lorden Darkblade]

Dude that wont change the fact THIS IS TOO RANDOM.

There must be another way to do this.

I see reskin with perfect colors. EXACT COLORS.

They dont seem to do like this.

[Darth_ToMeR]

Or, you can paint with a brush like Darth Melignous said, but theb put it on multiply (In the layer window there is white box with 'Normal' in it. Change it to Multiply).

[Lorden Darkblade]

That way it looks like ****.

It doesnt look nice or my PS is screwed.