toms Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 kanye is Last week, Kanye West (pronounced Kahn-yay) graced the cover of Time Magazine, which wrote, "...One of the better sounding rap records in history...widely expected to be the biggest-selling record of the year." I doubt it will be the career suicide that happened to a few actors/actresses/bands who dared criticise Bush after 9/11... Bush had really high popularity back then, now he has lower approval ratings than Nixon after watergate. Also, unlike the Dixie Chicks I suspect his main fan base is mainly composed of people who aren't that pro-bush anyway. Though part of his appeal was supposed to be that he was a rap star who appealed to mainstream america, so he may have damaged that. And i guess he does have a lot of christian references in his lyrics, and Bush has kind of become the official US leader of Christianity... The main problem people like the dixie chisks had wasn't exactly that people stopped buying their records, it was that the major radio chains who wanted to be in good with the administration and cash in on the ultra-patriotism wave at the time refused to play them. I still don't think its selfish... its just as likely to harm him as help him, and he clearly meant what he said, whether you agree with it or not. The annarchist part of me always loves it when someone takes advantage of live TV do do something unexpected or anti-establishment. THough it does often backfire by causing a backlash against them. Shame most of the first outburst was a bit inchomprehensible really, but the "George Bush does not care about black people" bt was gold. Though its understandable, I doubt he has ever met any, and i doubt he has a clue about the real life issues that poor people of any race face.... but then thats what you get when you always elect your presidents from a tiny ruling elite of rich families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 I still don't think its selfish... its just as likely to harm him as help him, and he clearly meant what he said, whether you agree with it or not. Of course it was selfish. I do agree with him. But the objective of the telethon was to raise money for hurricane victims, not to give him a free public sounding board from which to voice his no-duh-opinion. Whether it helped him or harms him is beside the point. The only people who might suffer because of his comments are the survivors in the south who are suffering anyway. You know, those black people he claims to care so much about? His comments can only help him, as nobody I know even had any idea who the hell he even was until he said what said. Now all anyone can talk about is "zOMG, did you s4e Mike Myers! Priceless HAHAHAW!11" because it IS funny. But it was also pretty ****ing selfish and stupid to take a chance on causing people to reconsider donating just because you want to prove how kvlt you are by standing up to the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toms Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 THe fact of you not knowing who he is doesn't really make much difference, as he is obviously pretty famous if he was invited to be on it in the first place. If you don't know him then his comments make no difference, if you do know him then you probably agree with him so they do no harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Yes, making personal political opinionated comments that could potentially make people decide not to donate to the Red Cross "make no difference". Someone should beat that guys ass. And his Pedo Bear too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Woah woah woah, everyone chill out. Take a drink, have a smoke, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Yes yes. Let us all laugh at the fact that they cut away in a mad panic and didn't tell them, thus Mike Myers was speaking with Chris Tucker's body:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-8252 Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 He doesn't care about white people either... [/balls] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
access_flux Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 we can debate this, forever, but it won't change the fact that he said it. it took huge balls, and he probably didn't think about the consequences, but still. its still pretty funny/crazy/interesting, but its not worth bickering over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Indeed, arguing will only get the thread locked with a humorous closing picture posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
access_flux Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 maybe i should argue some more, just to see the humorous closing picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I wanna see the humorous pic, myself. So let me continue by saying it didn't take any balls at all. What did he personally stand to lose? Nothing. It wasn't his ass up to his waist in raw sewage and the bloated corpses of his friends, neighbors, loved ones, rival gang members, etc... For real, I think it would rule to take that pedo bear mascot of his by the legs, and beat that Kanye dudes ass half to death with it while asking people to donate money to the Red Cross on a televised charity event. That would take balls. And Herculian strength. You think it takes balls to go on tv and say the president doesn't care about black people? Why? People have been saying that **** on tv, radio, newspaper, and countless other formats for years. Some of them actually faced real physical danger when they'd speak out against the government. This dude is a moron, and in no way comparable to the forefathers of the civil rights movement at all. If he cares so gawdamn much, why was he on tv using his bottom lip to beat the **** out of the top one, and not in NOLA trying to do something to help those people? I'll tell you why. Because he's full of ****, and he doesn't care about black people. He cares about making "holy-****ing-geez-did-he-just-say-that?!" comments to generate free publicity and hopefully sell a few more of his lame ass records to people. I gave up on trying to count the number of people who've said basically "I was going to donate, but Kanyes comments pissed me off". Sucks that one guys comments can affect people in such a negative way, but that's the power and price of being a celebrity in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiE23 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Its freedom of speech as long as it isnt slander or offensive Capn. Kinda like what Mike Moore did. But we half expected he would open his err... cheeks to say something against Bush. Yah, Katrina sucks, Bush isnt exactly the best president ever. But what ever. Its teh life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapNColostomy Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Its freedom of speech as long as it isnt slander or offensive Capn. Kinda like what Mike Moore did. But we half expected he would open his err... cheeks to say something against Bush. Yah, Katrina sucks, Bush isnt exactly the best president ever. But what ever. Its teh life. Yes, I understand the concept of freedom of speech, which is why I didn't say he shouldn't be allowed to say it, just that he should've chosen a more appropriate time and or place to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Sitherino Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Indeed, and in order to avoid furtherment of argueing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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