Guest DarthMaulUK Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 With total amazement I have just read the post by Thunderheart over at the official forums (posted below). He goes on to debate about the upcoming fixes to combat, targeting, lag etc - basically everything that SHOULD have been tested before NGE went live. Its further proof, if it was needed, that SOE just don't test anything before it goes live and to release something like NGE in this condition, is unforgivable.They haven't learnt from their mistakes when they released the disgraceful Rage Of The Wookiees bugged expansion. Its quite simple. Had NGE been released with the issues below fixed, I doubt we would have experienced the kind of backlash we have witnessed over the past couple of weeks. You simply cant release something that just doesnt work as intended but yet tell everyone, 'its for the best' when they cant actually see what you're trying to achieve when it doesnt work! There certainly is a lot of discussion about the details on what will be happening with SWG in the upcoming days, weeks and months. We've been looking over all of the issues and we wanted to share the latest information with you. Oh and look for the part about Jedi armour!!!! The post.... This first post is going to go over the top issues themselves. As we prepare these changes for upcoming hotifxes and publishes, we'll be seeing the team post the details as they are available. General Lag and Choppiness This is a top priority and we are working on a fix for this. Combat Targeting We are working on a better way for combatants to know exactly what they are targeting in combat and while this may not include a target locking feature, it will allow you to be more selective and efficient in combat. Now, there are other issues that are part of the targeting frustrations in the community. For instance, the mobs that are hard to target because they are all clumped together is a known issue that is being worked on; we can expect this to be fixed and MOBs won't bunch together. Once the bunched up spawns issue is cleared up, targeting each of the individual creatures/NPCs will be easier. The other key part of this issue is that NPCs and creatures are moving too fast and erratically. This is part of a separate issue that is also currently being worked on. Once this issue is solved, it will help with the targeting issue. Targeting objects and items in the world will be covered in one of the following sections. We will call this "non-combat targeting". Overall Balance Pass We have been reading all of the feedback and we agree with you. There are three basic categories that will be improved with this work: Adjusting Combat Difficulty for all levels. This will help with creatures and NPCs much lower than you that are way too difficult. Adjust the Power / Effectiveness of Special Attacks. Adjust the overall XP rates and widen the level range for creatures so that you can attack a wider variety of enemies for experience points (XP). Modal Chat and Keyboard Mapping The first community issues we are going to address with the keyboard controls is going to be re-enabling the option for modeless chat and giving you the ability to re-map your specials to function keys (F Keys). To be clear, the function key will not activate the special, but it will queue up the special. Shoot-Through-Friendlies Functionality We have been working on a feature that will improve a player’s ability to continue damaging a combat target even when a friendly (non-combatant fellow player) runs between you and your target. This should improve the experience when fighting in a group, both for combat and for healing. You can find more details on this change here. Global PvE Combat Review Make sure we have NPCs and Creatures available for all levels of players to hunt. Artificial Intelligence Improvements (AI) Adjust the difficulty of creatures and NPCs so that players can fight against appropriate level enemies and win (currently, creatures and NPCs in many cases are way too difficult). Make sure that all creatures and NPCs are moving at the right speeds (currently, some of them are moving way too fast and make it difficult to target and attack). Make sure that creatures and NPCs are using the appropriate special abilities. Non-Combat Targeting Currently, non-combat targeting (furniture, instruments, etc.) are difficult to target and interact with. We will be doing a system-by-system review for non-combat targeting to come up with better ways to target and interact with these items. More Profession Specialization This is something that is important to everyone. We will put together an overview of what you can expect and update you as things develop. Jedi Armor This change is currently being worked on and Blixdev will be posting some details on the change in the next couple of days. Armor Certifications We want to change the way the armor system works so that all players have access to a wider variety of armor. The armor system is part of many game systems and will take some time to change. Radial menu With regards to using the tilde "~" to pull up the radial menu instead of right-click, we understand that this is a functionality change to the way the game worked. The solutions for this will not be focused on re-introducing the radial menu, but will be focused on making the game easier to use in different ways. Essentially you won't need the radial menu as much as in the past, because we'll be making it easier to interact with world objects. Missing Animations There are instances where people are not seeing animations. This is being worked on right now also. Entertainer Profession The Entertainer profession will have some new abilities in an upcoming publish (and also all of their old abilities). When the plan is approved, we will make a development post to the community. You can expect to see this post in upcoming weeks. Trader Profession The crafting community has many questions and requests regarding the Trader professions. When the development plan is approved, we will post the developments to the community. There is no ETA for this information yet, but it is currently in progress. Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl Community Relations Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUGOMAND Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 ROOOOCKING!!! YEAH! If this thing succedes SWG will be an uber game !!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice88 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 WOOT looking good, i got killed by one of the bugs today cause the lag was so bad (im a level 10 jedi)(and yes i know i was complainging about the numbers of jedi around , i still think they need to bring back the village tho ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirLancelot Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 OH YEAH!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUGOMAND Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 When are these changes going live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediConsularAD Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Well this appears to be some good news , all i really have a problem with is the interface, and jedi, and bountys should still be on them, apart from that im ok with the new system. *reflects on what he just said* To hell with it lets bring the game back to pre-NGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitkat Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Right on JediConslarAD! lol ever wonder why in the game you can die faster with blaster bolts, but can take a ton of lightsaber strikes? Umm, doesn't lightsabers cut metal and people in half? SOE has made them into glowing gaffi sticks... Since we have no choice but to get up in melee range in a ranged world, how about giving us longer blaster block, and making our lightsabers damage more. A lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzie22 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 SOE are clueless and *if* any of these changes come thru,what other things will they break in the prcess... The mind boggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trahern Valley Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 It's hard to hold your breath after two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitkat Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Is it just me? I logged on before work this morning after "the patch" and I didn't see armor in my robes and I still go into combat mode if I buff or apply force run. Did this "patch" go through? I didn't have time to test anything so I can't be for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alteran Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 The issues of combat are even worse than many even realize. Here's a good test for you all. Go to Cnet and run out to the CL 1-10 area. If you can, aggro a critter/NPC to beat on you. Now just sit there and let it hit you... and hit you... Does the critter/NPC ever miss? It doesn't seem to matter, ranged or melee, running or standing still, the critter/NPC does not miss you. This is what I found from my testing. This is why combat is even more borked than many seem to realize. Even in a FPS, the NPC's can miss you, but not in SWG... not any more. Probably why they got rid of the combat channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DarthMaulUK Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 The changes will be made 'over time'. DMUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediConsularAD Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Yeah cant expect too much from sony, like a game thats actually been tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzie22 Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 The changes will be made 'over time'. DMUK The 12th of never? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppas Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 ROOOOCKING!!! YEAH! If this thing succedes SWG will be an uber game !!! lol no if this succedes swg will be the same uber mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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