JediMaster12 Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Another thing that would be nice to have in K3 would be given assignments from the Council. Like you see in the movies. Maybe the game can start out with, maybe, Bastila (a Master on the Council) convincing the council that Revan needs to be found. Maybe they had a collective vision of an impending attack by the true Sith. And the first assignment you and your master receive is to discover Revan's fate. That sounds like an interesting storyline. You should say this in the other thread about K3 ideas. I still would stick with having Mira or Atton train the new PC though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sun_Tzu Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 But how would that work with the DS option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Dakari Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 I still would stick with having Mira or Atton train the new PC though. I have always thought that maybe Mical would be the PC mentor. And when your PC becomes a Knight, he becomes a master and is requested by the council to sit with them. Maybe they had requested multiple times, but decided to do so this time, and that is where the reluctance - mentioned by Kreia - comes in. And Mira is to give up hunting life and, instead, live it. Kreia foresaw that she is to die on a long forgotten planet protecting others. I always pictured this as her being the head of a satellite academy (like Dantooine and Telos) and later in the game she is killed defending it - and its young Padawans and Knights - from an attack by the Sith. I figured that Brianna and Mira are Masters leading academies on other planets (Telos and Yavin IV?), but who sit on the High Council when it is called into session. I say Yavin IV for Mira because it is a forgotten world, but also a world of the ancient Sith, and these true Sith would surely set their eyes to it when they return. (Maybe it was Mira and Company who built the mythical Lost Jedi City...but I don't know the whole story behindit...so that was only a brain fart that needed to slip.) Remember that these are all only speculation, and everyone's guess is just as good as another's. But it's always fun to just sit down and daydream from time to time. But my problem might be that I do it too much. Oh well. *Edit* But how would that work with the DS option? If the basis of K2 was that your party members were the "True Jedi, upon which the future will be built" then they are the ones to rebuild the Jedi Order. And Kreia even recognized Brianna as a Jedi before she was ever in your party when she said, "There is a Jedi here. In that, you are correct." If K3 is to work successfully, and have a concise story, then the writers are going to have to make certain decisions, and incorporate some things canon. This is not to say that you shouldn't be able to decide what Revan or Exile were and decide each of their alignments. But there are even little inconsistancies in everyone's game, even if they both played lightside. In K1, lightside, you can either kill Bastila aboard the Star Forge, or redeeme her. The desicion of her true fate was already made by the writers of K2. So, tuff titty for those who decided that she should die, and who killed her in their game. When playing games like this, we must always keep in mind that there is one consistant story (canon) that has already been decided (or will be soon). Every little decision I make is not going to be every single decision you make, even it we are both dark side or light side. Those little things will need to be decided by the writers. If you went DS, I would still say that something could have happened to bring about the reestablishment of the Jedi Order. Maybe your party members found redemption and decided to follow the Jedi way. Who knows? Or, maybe the new council will be made up of others; be they Jedi who were in hiding the whole time K2 was happening, or those who have taken it upon themselves to become Jedi and help with the rebuilding. But like I said, these crucial decisions are the ones made the writers, not the gamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sun_Tzu Posted January 25, 2006 Author Share Posted January 25, 2006 Unless they are going to make the LS ending cannon then it may be difficult for the developers to make it work. In K2 all they had to do was have Carth substituted with a random and cut out the scene on Telos. But for what you are suggesting it would mean that the LS and DS choice would radically change the game. Not that i don't like your idea or have the game very different depending on LS or DS. I just don't see the developers putting in the time to do it. Ok, thats enough of that. Sorry about dumping on your idea. It is good and i would like to see something like that. I had something similar in mind. I thought about having Jolee setting up a secret Academy somewhere like Ossus but then because of trouble with the locals you have to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shem Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I would rather have the lightsaber very soon after the start of the game. Perhaps it should emulate the SW universe, where if you start as a padawan you are given a lightsaber and then you'd have to build one as a part of the Trials. I agree. I also believe that many people will be pretty ticked off if the game is dragged out again about getting your lightsaber. Jedi Academy did that after what happened in Jedi Outcast. Hopefully if there is a KOTOR III, that you will be able to get your lightsaber pretty quick also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sun_Tzu Posted January 26, 2006 Author Share Posted January 26, 2006 I agree. I also believe that many people will be pretty ticked off if the game is dragged out again about getting your lightsaber. Jedi Academy did that after what happened in Jedi Outcast. Hopefully if there is a KOTOR III, that you will be able to get your lightsaber pretty quick also. Just as long as it is not too soon. If they do it right then, it could give you a sense of acheivement but if it is the same again then they might as well start you with one and forget the whole idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith_Reven Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 The character be it Revan or not should take on an aprentice and if you fall to the darkside you fight against your apprentice in the end and vice versa........ OHH man, I just thought of a sweet idea but I have to post it somewhere else.......Good idea with the lightsaber too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sun_Tzu Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 What do you guys think is a reasonable level to get your lightsabre? I was thinking about lvl 8 like in k1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 If they do it right then, it could give you a sense of acheivementUsually I just end up with a "thank goodness that's over" feeling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 To answer your question Darth Sun_Tzu, I don't mind building a saber, I just don't want to go searching the galaxy for all the parts. I would rather have the parts there and construct it right then and there. As to the level, level 8 sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Dakari Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I just don't want to go searching the galaxy for all the parts. I would rather have the parts there and construct it right then and there. I agree. I'm sure every academy (be it Coruscant or Dantooine) has the basic lightsaber parts for their Padawans to use. It's the individual Jedi, and the different "parts from the pile", that make all the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sun_Tzu Posted January 29, 2006 Author Share Posted January 29, 2006 I just don't want to go searching the galaxy for all the parts. I would rather have the parts there and construct it right then and there. Thats what happened in K2 and what i don't want for K3. I don't mind them all being in the same place but you should have to do something to earn them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-O Kreesh Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 I agree with my apprentice that you shouldn't have to search the galaxy for lightsaber parts. Since you start k2 with a couple powers already, I think I've changed my mind on being a regular joe at the start of k3. You should start as a Jedi apprentice and around Lvl. 5 you should get to build your lightsaber. Parts and color crystals should be on hand when you do. But no special parts or power crystals until you start adventuring around the galaxy. Collecting new add-ons and crystals made the last 2 games pretty cool. It made you excited when you went to new planets and fought new foes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sun_Tzu Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 You should start as a Jedi apprentice and around Lvl. 5 you should get to build your lightsaber. Parts and color crystals should be on hand when you do. But no special parts or power crystals until you start adventuring around the galaxy. Collecting new add-ons and crystals made the last 2 games pretty cool. It made you excited when you went to new planets and fought new foes. Thats given me an idea. I'm now thinking that, like you said, you can build your lightsabre at level 5 but it is weak say 1-12 damage and can't be fitted with upgrades. As you travel around you learn how to improve your lightsabre (at say lvl 10) and then it becomes 1-16 damage and you can put in additional cystals. Some more time passes (say when you reach level 14-15) and you learn how to further improve your lightsabre. Now it becomes 1-20 damage and can take cystals and upgrades. Additional: Maybe the improvements could coincide with your development as a jedi. You first make your lightsabre when you become a padawan. You then upgrade it when you become a full Jedi Knight. The final upgrade comes when you become a Master. So how about that? To me that makes it a little more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 That is interesting and coupled with the idea that Darth Windu had about some of the power crystals and the color crystals having an attribute bonus would make the saber a powerful weapon. It of course would become more powerful the stronger you become in the Force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-O Kreesh Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Darth Windu does have a good idea there. Instead the exile crystal you find on Dantooine in k2, which was a good idea by OE, you could find individual crystals for individual abilities. Maybe a blue crystal for a strength bonus or a green crystal for wisdom bonus. The combinations would be endless!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Yes master but don't let a lust for power drive your focus. That idea has been shot by others but one can look at TSL and I believe it was the crystal Kasha that gave a +1 for Wisdom. Don't let your head be filled with visions and glory for power such thoughts can lead to the darkside. Check out one of the other threads about KOTOR 3 ideas and I think the listing that Darth Windu put up might still be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-O Kreesh Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I am sorry for my outburst, my apprentice. I guess I got a little carried away there. "There is no emoton, there is peace." (sits down to meditate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sun_Tzu Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 I am sorry for my outburst, my apprentice. I guess I got a little carried away there. "There is no emoton, there is peace." (sits down to meditate) There is no peace, only passion! Give in to the Darkside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 My master will not! You can train your own apprentice to become a Sith if you choose. That is the theme of KOTOR. Think carefully on your choices, there may be no turning back. I believe that no one is undeservering of redemption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sun_Tzu Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 Any way, time to get back on topic. Darth Windu does have a good idea there. Instead the exile crystal you find on Dantooine in k2, which was a good idea by OE, you could find individual crystals for individual abilities. Maybe a blue crystal for a strength bonus or a green crystal for wisdom bonus. The combinations would be endless!!!!! I'd prefer it it was your ability that allowed your lightsabre to become more powerful rather than a crystal. Its been done and it was a good idea but it should be left at that. As i said in a previous post i think you learn how to improve your lightsabre as you develop in the game (padawan, knight, master). This in a way would also fit in with the apprentice idea, it could one of the things you teach them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 I'd prefer it it was your ability that allowed your lightsabre to become more powerful rather than a crystal. Its been done and it was a good idea but it should be left at that.I agree. IMO there are too many bonuses applied to lightsaber components. I'd rather there me more options to develop lightsaber skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMaster12 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 That is what the lightsaber forms are for. Rob suggested something about making each form more distinctive when in use. Those have added bonuses increasing chances of a hit or deflecting blaster shots. Of course it still depends on your saves stats. The power crystals have some properties of increasing those chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sun_Tzu Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 What i want to see is the lightsabre its self get better, as your skills as a jedi improve. Here is a reminder of what i said b4. You can build your lightsabre at level 5 but it is weak say 1-12 damage and can't be fitted with upgrades. As you travel around you learn how to improve your lightsabre (at say lvl 10) and then it becomes 1-16 damage and you can put in additional cystals. Some more time passes (say when you reach level 14-15) and you learn how to further improve your lightsabre. Now it becomes 1-20 damage and can take cystals and upgrades.[/Quote] The forms where a nice touch but i'd like to see different animations for the forms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolsen Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 my idea is that atton is your master and as was stated earlier mira dies protecting people on a planet in the rim that has an academy on it. your padawan should be important to the story. ex. they could become the romance option or maybe they fall to the ds and you have to redeem them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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