razorace Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I was researching lightsaber styles when I noticed that the term "feint" is a better, more real-world term for "attack fake". I think we should start using that term for now on. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackBaldy Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I was researching lightsaber styles when I noticed that the term "feint" is a better, more real-world term for "attack fake". I think we should start using that term for now on. What do you guys think? Well, as long as it is associated with both basic fakes and attacks fakes. I.e. Basic feints and attack feints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDie Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I agree with jack...as long as we say attack feints/basic feints i vote yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanqexe Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Didn't we have terminology discussions before? At one point we did agree on renaming attack fakes as feints (and power attacks and whatnot), but then people decided to stick with the original name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Yeah, I know we talked about this before. I didn't think the term "feint" was used before thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShaman Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Well, the thing is, to me, a feint is when you do as if you were striking, but you don't, so it sounds more like the windup fake. But if we keep saying "feint" for windup, and "attack feint" for attack fake, I'm for it. (like Jack, it seems.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yango Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 According to dictionary.com: fake: 5. (verb) to trick or deceive (an opponent) by making a fake (often fol. by out): The running back faked out the defender with a deft move and scored. 12. (noun) Sports. a simulated play or move intended to deceive an opponent. feint: –noun 1. a movement made in order to deceive an adversary; an attack aimed at one place or point merely as a distraction from the real place or point of attack: military feints; the feints of a skilled fencer. I'd use feint for attack fake and fake (or fake attack) for windup so yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShaman Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Still, not to be confusing, we should call the 2 moves feint, and attack feint, attack feint being the offensive move, feint being the tap required to attack parry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanqexe Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Yep Yango. Dictionary ftw. Attack feint just makes no sense because it's really redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 I like yango's suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackBaldy Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 A basic fake can still be considered a feint. I.e. Doing some sort of movement to deceive your opponent. Although instead of it being attack feint and basic feint it should probably be feint and basic feint. I think I would confuse myself if both were different because I am used to both being common (Both right now are associated with 'fakes'), i.e. feint and fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxstate Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 What's wrong with fake --> power attack --> riposte? Everyone I've trained and have played with knows it under these names and uses their "technical" names only when pointing out a bug or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShaman Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Basic feint doesn't make sense either. The word attack should be kept, so we know we are talking about the attack move, and not the windup one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanqexe Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 A feint is basically like a setup attack for another attack at another target in fencing, whereas a fake is simply meant to deceive - there's a subtle difference in the definition. Which is accurate to what an "attack fake" is. It does not need "attack" or "basic" attached to its name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShaman Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 So this means we would say "Fake" for "Windup Fake" and "Feint" for "Attack fake"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorace Posted June 10, 2007 Author Share Posted June 10, 2007 right. I think that's the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShaman Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Alright, why not, it will take a bit of time to get used to it, but it does sound good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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