sinsix Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I am very new to KOTOR(Traditionally I have hated RPGS. Just recently got KOTOR on my tablet and I love it.) and the RPG world. But having just got KOTOR I fell in love with PAZAAK. Immediately, I thought I would surely be able to find a deck online. I was wrong. So, I did some investigating and found printing sites that allow you to print 100% customizable cards. BINGO! Now, I need to find the images. I found plenty. Some were sub par. Some were ok. Some were great, just not accurate depictions of the KOTOR cards. So, being pretty handy with Photoshop, I decided to make my own.(Currently, I am awaiting their arrival from somewhere in Hong Kong.) Anyhow, having made myself some accurate recreations, I figured there were other folks out there with the same issue. Or maybe not, as this game is old as Hell. Either way, i uploaded my PNGs to Photobucket. Feel free to use them for personal use. I would prefer you not actually sell them. But who am I, the police? http://s236.photobucket.com/user/redspin6/library/PAZAAK%20Click%20the%20thumbnails%20for%20better%20viewing Comments/Concerns/Criticism welcome. I did add a brushed metal look to the cards that you cannot see in the game. But we are talking about a decade plus old game. So, there were limitations. If you want them recreated with the flat, pale backing, let me know. I will hook you up. Also, being that I am only in KOTOR and no further, if newer games have different cards, let me know. I will create them, as well. -sinsix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 People have had this idea over the years, but i dont think anyone actually had pazaak cards printed before. Your taking it to a new lvl, kudos! What is the image your using for the back of the cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinsix Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 I am sure other folks have had them made. I have seen forums discussing their attempts. They just used flat images that did not suit my taste. I wanted cards that would be at home in Han Solo's hand. If I could work with metal I would make them out of aluminum Anyhow, this is the authentic looking image for the backs in KOTOR. I have not played KOTOR2. They may look different there. This is the back image I used for my second set. It has a made up logo and some color. But it is essentially the same. I also ordered a custom mat that looks like half of the table from the game. I had to modify it a bit, due to size and the fact that in real life our side deck goes in our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I'd like to see an image of that mat, it at all possible. Never seen someone go all out like this before. Did you order a couple extra decks for your friends? Card game isn't good without someone to play it with. Also, where did you order the cards from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinsix Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Once the mat arrives(could be awhile, sadly. Comes from Hong Kong, I believe.) I will get you some pictures. But anyhow, I used artscow.com to print the cards. They have a couple viable options. It just depends on how authentic you want to go. I think you can get a mini(1.5" x 2.5") deck for $8 and shipping. They are just about an inch smaller than normal poker cards. So, not bad. But the site has promo codes all the time. Right now, they offer 35% off your order. As far as multiple decks, I only ordered one set. It takes two decks to make one Pazaak deck. 40, alone, make up the main deck. So, that pretty much shoots one deck of 52. Then, 12 blue, red and blue/red. once you add the yellow advanced cards, it adds up quick. I also ordered "blanks" in each color to write on with a marker, in case of a lost card or if one wanted to create a new card. To get around needing multiple decks, my plan is this(tested with a regular deck of cards and using a marker to make them Pazaak friendly).... Main deck remains unchanged. Take the 40ish side deck card and just shuffle them together. Then, deal them out amongst the two players. It is fair and it isn't like I had to travel the galaxy and pay $275 for a 1+/-2 card from a dealer. So, it is more like a real card game you would buy in the store. Also, I believe you could probably play 4 players with ease, if you wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 you and your players might want to consider live streaming your game someplace. I'd watch that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinsix Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 Something tells me you would be lonely in that feed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinsix Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Update: The cards/mat have arrived! I ended up bailing on artscow.com. They messaged me with some sort of error and I just cancelled the order, rather than fight through the issues, as I ended up finding TGC after I placed my order with artscow.com. It worked out better, anyhow. TGC makes all sorts of customized gaming products. I highly recommend them. They did the mat and the cards. And I could have gotten a custom box, as well, for like $2.79. Regretting not, already. But I will undoubtedly be ordering more cards, so I will add it to that order. Check them out: http://thegamecrafter.com On to the cards! I am rather pleased with how everything turned out. I did go with the more accurate backs and not the red with the logo. Traditionalism won out. The mat came printed on both sides. If you printed a mirrored version, it would give you the whole table. If anyone is interested in doing so, I can flip it for you and I can also change the name to anything you want. Just let me know. It is a 2 minute job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellojello Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 The only thing my son wants for Christmas is a real Pazaak deck. This is a god-send. Since I am not really personally familiar with Pazaak or KOTOR, I have a few questions: - How many of each card is required for a complete set? - There are two backs; which one goes on which cards?? - I'm planning to go with the Game Crafter website you linked to. I was thinking "poker" sized cards would be best (?). Are these images already sized appropriately for that template, or did you have to make any tweaks after you switched vendors?? I'm not really that handy with graphics software, so I'll need to find someone else to tweak the size/etc. if that's needed. Also, thank you so very much. Really appreciate you sharing this -- you've made an 8-year-old kid's Christmas!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellojello Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Oh - I forgot one question. Is the mat required to play the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinsix Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 The only thing my son wants for Christmas is a real Pazaak deck. This is a god-send. Since I am not really personally familiar with Pazaak or KOTOR, I have a few questions: - How many of each card is required for a complete set? - There are two backs; which one goes on which cards?? - I'm planning to go with the Game Crafter website you linked to. I was thinking "poker" sized cards would be best (?). Are these images already sized appropriately for that template, or did you have to make any tweaks after you switched vendors?? I'm not really that handy with graphics software, so I'll need to find someone else to tweak the size/etc. if that's needed. Also, thank you so very much. Really appreciate you sharing this -- you've made an 8-year-old kid's Christmas!! For simplicity, here is the link to my original order(minus the mat, as people don't want a mat with MY name on it.). The mat is not required to play, anyhow.It has 40 "table" deck cards and a good mixture of "side" deck cards for 2-4 people to play, if desired. http://www.thegamecrafter.com/games/tgcpz01 There is no markup on this deck. ZERO PROFIT. Just make that kid's Christmas great. As far as the backs, I included two back, but you only use one. The grey one is for "purist" players who want their cards to look like what is in KOTOR. The back with the red. Pazaak logo on it is just something I created in case people wanted something on the back of their cards. It is a matter of preference, really. PS: If anyone wants an edited mat with a specific name on it, I can accommodate that, as well. Graphics are my thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFu Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I was about to create an entire custom deck from scratch until I found this thread! I was hoping to buy a few decks of these for my friends and myself. Just a couple of questions: 1. Are they still smaller than poker cards? Or are they about the same size (I'd love it if they were standard poker card size.)? 2. What is the material/matte of the cards, and is that adjustable? For example could I get them printed on plastic cards or with a gloss? Regardless, amazing work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggomonkey Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I actually had some decks made up a couple years ago. I had been meaning to do so for a long time, but couldn't get good graphics for the cards. http://imgur.com/a/6LvJz Here is a link to my album If there is interest in the cards. I had to improvise with the card backing, so it kind of sucks. The cards are faithful to the in-game graphics too. Hope that between these and the Original Poster's work this makes Pazaak cards easier to get. I had mine printed here: http://www.printerstudio.com/personalized/custom-playing-cards-gifts.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipublib Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 This website - http://www.pazaak.org/guide#rules - says each player should have a 40 card main deck plus a 10 card side deck. To have enough cards for two players I would only have to buy one deck from TGC? There it says the deck has 93 cards. Can you please give a detailed breakdown of exactly what cards are in the package? The backs of the cards will be grey? Also, how much do mats cost, and could there be two in every package, without names? What does the 1 +/- 2 yellow card do? I don't remember that from the games. Shouldn't it be 1 & 2? It's on the third row of your Photobucket page. Never mind, I found the answer here: http://www.pazaak.org/manual Any idea how much it costs to ship to Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Koi Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 What are the dimensions of the cards? I get the sense that they differ from standard playing cards but am not entirely sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobatheVet Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Is there a way you could make a mat with no name on it. I'd like to order a couple of these but I want the matts too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFu Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Just wanted to make a note that I ended up purchasing 4 of these decks back in January (a few of them were gifts) and they are amazing. Exactly what I was looking for. I had to dig up this thread just so I could find the link and purchase more of them. I've been playing Pazaak with a normal deck of cards for about 10 years, it's amazing to have an actual deck. Here's the link again: https://www.thegamecrafter.com/games/tgcpz01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattig89ch Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 The only thing I could think to improve this, would be to change the mat so that it doesn't just cut off as it does. But instead has a curved edge on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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