TiE23 Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 The part when Anikin jumps out of the speeder and Obi-Wan says "I hate it when does that":cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent_Thunder Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 First of all... I thought that there was too much CGI, and most of it wasn't all *that* great (though alot of it was), but this is a trailer, and I think the trailer is showing alittle more CGI simply becuase of the fact that it *is* a trailer (it showing off for the msot part... ). Also, I think the poor CGI that can be seen in some parts of the movie will be fixed (such as some of the backgrounds...). But at the same time; I believe some of the CGI will remain alittle akward... such as the too green yoda... But that's ok, since the special effects won't make the movie.. But over all... I LOVED the trailer... The dialog was awesome... and cheesy in some parts... but it's Star Wars... I honestly think that this movie is taking back some of the Original Triliogy that the Phantom Menace lost. I really liked all the lines Palpitine had... especially the one about " you don't need guidance, I foresee you becoming the greatest of all jedi..." Very cool... Also, I liked the way Palpy held his hands while he was saying that... Very similar to the RotJ Palpitine... It looks like Dooku will be a very cool character as well... Almost like Darth Vader was in the Ot. Anyway... It looks like there is a good story to EPII and good acting, AND good lines... It could very well be the return of OT.. I defiantly can't wait to see it this May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nykel007 Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 All I have to say is COOL!!!!!!. I'll definatly be the first ones in the theater, again! Things I noticed: Lsaber are green+ blue except for M Windu, what is he the only one with some originality? The new jedi council member behind Obi+ Anakin looks fimilar...hummmm all in all, I can't wait for this movie and of coarse JK2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubei2501 Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 About CGI.... let me just say off the bat that I loved the trailer, and I've watched it about ten times already.... You know all that CGI does seem like a bit much. I mean, it's very apparent that all that stuff is fake. The original trilogy seemed so much more real, mainly because they used real models...... Oh well, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracken Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 Originally posted by nykel007 Things I noticed: Lsaber are green+ blue except for M Windu, what is he the only one with some originality? Sam Jackson specifically asked GL for a purple lightsaber, and George gave it to him. After all, what's he going to say to SAM JACKSON: no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Krayt Tion Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 You can count on more CGI being in the official release... lots more. And after that, more more more in Episode III. George Lucas loves to push new technology into the medium, he almost always has with the movies he's done. This was the case in the original trilogy, which blew people away thanks to IL&M. This has been the case and will continue to be the case with the digital prequels. No other real footage/CGI combination on film that I have seen comes even close. I think the CGI looks absolutely spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTheGaffer Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 Yeah come on he is SHAFT! Originally posted by Cracken Sam Jackson specifically asked GL for a purple lightsaber, and George gave it to him. After all, what's he going to say to SAM JACKSON: no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTheGaffer Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 They are maned gun orbres with clone troopers in them. Originally posted by basketFC cool... the turrets on the republic gunships are mini-version of the deathstar... they even have the same laserbeam (not as powerful though ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eternity Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 I think the CGI looks absolutely spectacular. I think the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNNER Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 Originally posted by Eternity It's up, as Gunner has said!! /edit: never mind. :| What did I say? It was a great couple minutes. This baby is going to rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracken Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 I hear a lot of people saying that there's "too much CGI," and that "it wasn't that good." Lemme just ask if we all are watching the same trailer? Cuz the CGI I saw was absolutely necessary considering the sheer scope of what was going on. Also, I thought the quality was phenomenal! Where have you seen better CGI, at least on the grand scale that it was employed here. <MINOR SPOILER> About CGI Yoda: it's necessary for Yoda to be nearly all CGI, as he actually FIGHTS Count Dooku at the end of the movie, which would be nearly impossible for a puppet. My guess is that having him be completely CGI was GL's way of maintaining some sense of continuity. </MINOR SPOILER> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScientist Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 I didn't know Jar Jar was going to be in AOTC (probbly old news but I don't keep up with it) but if you look you can see him with a group that is standing around listening to someone on a hologram saying "they are using a bounty hunter named Jango Fett to create..." all I can say is too bad. [Edit minor grammer errors] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedialphaknight Posted March 12, 2002 Author Share Posted March 12, 2002 wut I find interesting, is well, I think the cgi is necessary just for like huge battles and all true it doesn't need to be everywhere but still, yeah those saber fights are something eh? I like, hopefully someone can make a mod that has dual saber and two saber fighting now, THAT would be sweet If you think about it Episode 3 will prolly have the most jedi fighting since Anakin turns baddy and wants to slice and dice jedi, god that will be a good one I can't wait to see him transcend into darth vader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woad Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 Mace was definatley not the only Jedi with a purple saber! Watch the trailer again, easily half of the jedi in the big battles have purple ones. If you ask me, there is far too much of those purples and not enough of that beautiful blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_FinnSon Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 If I may interject, all this not "feeling like Star Wars" business should be more thoroughly examined before the movie has this "other" image or feel labeled to it. Think about the difference in A New Hope and Empire strikes back. Excuse me, but if I saw ANH in '77, ESB would be the image farthest from what I'd expect. It's an entirely different era in the prequels. As ESB is different from ANH, so shall AotC be different from TPM. Maybe Episode III will bear more resemblance to ANH. You people should see these movies as part of the saga and not look at weaknesses of each movie too much or try to compare them to each other; together they make sense, but as individual movies they only tell part of the story, which is either boring, childish or entertaining(depends on people). If you really must, then you could watch TPM much like you watch ANH: both of them introduce all major characters/organizations of the trilogy, create tensions between them, but don't answer to every question that is brought up during the story. Only after that story starts to get more complex, so AOTC will be much similar to ESB which answered to some of those big questions that earlier episode brought up and then set up the stage ready for final chapter, which is practically a big showdown. But, Episode III won't be like RotJ, because Lucas has said many times before that it will be the most darkest of all episodes and he thinks it will also be least favorite of them all. There won't be any big end celebration like in RotJ, but instead we see Empire raising its evil head and death of thousands of Jedi. Then you will know, why Lucas made TPM intentionally light, almost childish(although in its core it's much darker than ANH was); he tried to soften the "punch" that we will later get right into face. don't get me wrong i want CGI in the movie, But Just not every were i look. there doesnt need to be CGI through out the whole film, it's like he's trying to shove it down your throat. It would be kinda impractical and time consuming(they aren't THAT good yet) to make everything CGI. What makes those scenes so visually complex and intense, isn't CGI alone, but instead a mixture of CGI, models AND live-action footage. About CGI Yoda: it's necessary for Yoda to be nearly all CGI, as he actually FIGHTS Count Dooku at the end of the movie, which would be nearly impossible for a puppet. My guess is that having him be completely CGI was GL's way of maintaining some sense of continuity. I remember someone mentioning earlier that Lucas first talked with Frank Oz about actually using Yoda puppet and was it even possible to do fight scene with it, so looks like CGI Yoda was most practical solution in this case. Besides, Yoda is also doing a lot else in this movie, which calls for wide range of movement, so they saved a lot of money when going CGI version of him, which I think looks awesome. BTW, to those of you who didn't know, ILM already made walking CGI Yoda for TPM(at the end, when he talks with Obi-Wan and allows him to teach Anakin). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darky Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 As mine eyes gazed upon Episode I this very evening () I was thinking something very similar. And what you said made a lot of sense. I was looking at the "feel" of the movies, and if I came across as saying something else, this is what I meant: George Lucas has a purpose for making these films "look" and "feel" like they do. Episode II may not "feel" like ANH or the other classic trilogy movies, but then again, when Empire was coming out, I'm sure someone said, "This doesn't feel like Star Wars." Of course, at that point, the Star Wars Trilogy wasn't complete. Now, applying this to our present situation, Episode II may not feel like the rest, but that's okay. The rest of the trilogy isn't out yet. Each of the six movies feel disctinctly different and they all contibute to the story of Anakin, which is really what it's all about, as a whole. His rise, his fall, his redemption. But that's a whole other topic. I don't know how else to say it. ESB doesn't feel like ANH. AotC doesn't feel like ANH, et cetera. That is okay! The picture as a whole will make sense of the feelings of it all, and that's what I meant when I said Episode III may feel (or at least look like) ANH. They are closer together in the timeline, and I'm hoping that the transition between the feel of the Classic trilogy compared to the new trilogy is blurred greatly. Boy oh, boy, that's a lot of rambling. One more thing. On Episode III, as it's been said, George already has the feel set for it, and has for quite some time. I can't wait for it, because I'm a big fan of the really dark SW moments. I remember one particularly chilling quote of Lucas. "The third one is a tragedy. It's extremely, extremely dark. It is not a happy film by any stretch of the imagination." In fact, I expect it to be so chilling and dark, that I'm anticipating black armor and the breathing apparatus by the end of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracken Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 Originally posted by Woad Mace was definatley not the only Jedi with a purple saber! Watch the trailer again, easily half of the jedi in the big battles have purple ones. If you ask me, there is far too much of those purples and not enough of that beautiful blue No, chief, they were all blue. All of the Jedi had blue or green sabers except for Mace. Some LOOK purple, but I'm guessing it's because ILM had to darken them so they'd show up against the sand. It's the same reason why Luke's saber in ROJ was green: lighter blue doesn't show up well against a sandy background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 Some of those battle scenes remind me of some Jedi Knight MP games I've been in... kinda cool in a way! Atleast we have Jedi Knight Outcast to hold us over until Attack of the Clones comes out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cracken Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 You mean because everyone was running around, wildly failing about hoping for a hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 No, you must be thinking of playing on the Zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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