armed201 Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 Unfortunately thats the best vid card I can get at this current time. I have had it for 2 years. Will it work with JK2? I have 3dfx tools so I tweaked the voodoo 3 graphics capabilities higher than a retard on crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coligeon Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 Heh, that is kind of funny since I just replaced my voodoo 3 3000 pci last week with a new geforce gts-v for this game, but that wasn't the only reason. Your video card should work fine, it just isn't on the little list Lucasarts sent out. All that is implying is that they tested the game with those chips and know that it will work. Since voodoo is no longer in business, they probably feel it is not good to waste time on a product that is disscontinued. I just got my new card so I can make sure JO runs great and I needed a new one anyway, agp too. Hope it works out for ya ^_^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StAtilXl Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 get a new card... AGP 32 mb at least or geforce 4 if u have the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armed201 Posted March 15, 2002 Author Share Posted March 15, 2002 I would but my computer motherboard only supports cards up to things like voodoo 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fin Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 I wouldn't count on that Voodoo 3. A 32mb card should be minimum, but that is only my guess regarding the texturesizes that are used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coligeon Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 Like I said above, the card will work, but I can't tell you how well. The only other advice I can give is to play quake 3. If you haven't try downloading the demo. Since JO is running on nearly the same engine, it will compare somewhat. Give it a try. On my voodoo 3 for quake 3 I got on average from 30 to 50 fps which is ok. Now with my new card I get 70 and up the whole time for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormHammer Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 If you check the Official Site's System Specs it says this... Graphics Card:16 MB OpenGL compatible PCI or AGP 3D Hardware Accelerator required. So there you go..if you have a card that matches that, then JKII should run. I won't vouch for how well it will run, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squalliss Posted March 15, 2002 Share Posted March 15, 2002 If I am correct, JO will use 64mb of texture memory on video cards, so people who are running 16mb cards - I advise an upgrade right away. Even people with 32mb should upgrade, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD_ToRMeNt Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 It should run, but don't expect decent framerates. If there is a lot of action on the screen your FPS will polly drop down to an unplayable level even with all the settings turned down. It also depends on your CPU. And what about that mother board only supporting up to voodoo 3? Perhaps you are getting confused over AGP and PCI slots. I think ATI makes a decent PCI card with 32 megs of RAM (or more I forget) and the radeon chipset that should work in place of a v3 (and is more then twice as good). Honestly, I don't know why people liked Voodoo. I guess they just didn't know any better. They whent out of buisness for a reason and they always did poorly when compared to ATI or NVidia in FPS. They were cheap, that's about the best I can say for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armed201 Posted March 16, 2002 Author Share Posted March 16, 2002 I only have an agp 1, so things like voodoo3 are the only things I can get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD_ToRMeNt Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Hmmm you might look and see if there is a BIOS update for your board that might make it x2/x4 compatable. I also keep thinking that the newer AGP cards have to be x1 compatable but I'd have to look. What is your CPU? You might want to build a new computers anyways. If you're on a budget buy a Duron and salvage what parts you can (CD-ROM, Floppy, RAM, Soundcard, ect...) out of the comp you have now. You could build a comp that would run JK2 nicely for under 300 USD. http://www.pricewatch.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coligeon Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 All video cards are agp 1 compatible to my knowledge. The difference between 2 and 4 is very minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediGunny Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 But if he has a older MB that ONLY supports AGP 2x than it may not have the right voltage to run a newer 4X card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armed201 Posted March 16, 2002 Author Share Posted March 16, 2002 WD TORMENT, how do I find out what my motherboard bios is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgirion Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 I hope my old 32 mb geforce 2 MX 400 can run JO without any lag... *crosses fingers* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiles4 Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 I think you guys are confusing AGP 1x/2x/4x with the AGP 1.0 and 2.0 compliancy specs. From what Armed's saying it sounds like he has a AGP 1.0 spec slot that, coincidentally, can only manage the AGP 1x speed. Sounds like has a Socket 7 board. The only non-voodoo card I was able to run successfully in an AGP slot like that was an original GeForce2 MX. Worked great. Most likely, none of the new video cards will work in that board. And, my guess is that JO will be unplayable on your machine regardless of what video card you put in it. I don't know why people liked Voodoo This has got to be one of the most clueless statements I've ever heard about the true pioneer of 3D gaming hardware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armed201 Posted March 16, 2002 Author Share Posted March 16, 2002 chiles, would a geforce 2 mx 400 work on my agp 1.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armed201 Posted March 16, 2002 Author Share Posted March 16, 2002 oh,and I once tried a geforce 2 TI and it didnt work, so would a geforce 2 mx really have any better luck at working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Originally posted by armed201 Unfortunately thats the best vid card I can get at this current time. I have had it for 2 years. Will it work with JK2? I have 3dfx tools so I tweaked the voodoo 3 graphics capabilities higher than a retard on crack. If I were going to buy a new card right now, I would buy the GF4 minimum 64 meg and would try for the 128 meg version. That is an expensive card...all lines save the MX versions which I would stay away from because they are crippled GF4's. The best bang for the buck is the ATI Radeon 8500 card. It's faster than the GF3 cards, perhaps not the GF3 Ti500 but all the others. U can find it as little as $138 on http://www.pricewatch.com and that is the 64 meg version by the way. Now if you have the moola...get the GF4 4200 at least. I think the GF4 4600 ($377 even at Pricewatch) is a little ridiculous as the 4400 would be the most I would pay...unless I could throw money away and I can't. That's not to say that your card will not run JKO but you might have to set some of the features down on it. Like I said...the best deal is the ATI Radeon 8500! I have a GF3 (no Ti, mine was just before that and it's not an MX version either). Now if you happen to be a lucky person with a Voodoo 5 6000, JKO would run almost as good on it as a GF3 Ti500! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD_ToRMeNt Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Yes, I know that Voodoo was one of the first to really work in true 3D. But as I said they whent out of buisness for a reason. They just weren't cutting it against ATI and NVidia, not to mention they relied to heavily on a graphics lib (Glide) that only they had. Most devs would rather have to work in just OpenGL or Dx and not in combination with glide. That just adds more work. The V5 just couldn't compare in the FPS field with ATI and NVidia. It wasn't that way at the beginning but it was that way at the end. The V5 got owned in benchmarks against the Radeon and GF3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlacKnight Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Originally posted by Bowen U can find it as little as $138 on http://www.pricewatch.com and that is the 64 meg version by the way. Now if you have the moola...get the GF4 4200 at least. I think the GF4 4600 ($377 even at Pricewatch) is a little ridiculous as the 4400 would be the most I would pay...unless I could throw money away and I can't. Dont' get the gf4mx it will run at at about the same speed as a top of the line gf2 and you won't have all the hardware support such as vertex shaders etc. that a regular gf4 does. you're better off spending a little extra and getting a decent gf3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Yoyo Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Last month I upgraded from a Voodoo3 2000 PCI to a GeForce3 TI 200 AGP. I can begin to tell you what a difference it made. Stay away from the MX. They are cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armed201 Posted March 16, 2002 Author Share Posted March 16, 2002 chiles, are you sure a geforce 2 mx would work in my system, preferably the 400 version? I tried getting a geforce 2 ti and it didnt work cause of the compatability thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediDante Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Well I used to have a Voodoo 4 4500 32MB PCI then I upgraded to a Geforce 2MX/400 64MB PCI, I know I know it's PCI! But my CPU does not have an AGP slot! But I think since I can run Q3,EF,and TA good so I could prob run JO good! Also I can Run MOHAA on 1024x74632bit with everything on high and get about 25FPS a sec. I also have 512MB ram and a 766mhz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD_ToRMeNt Posted March 16, 2002 Share Posted March 16, 2002 Honestly dude, it sounds like you need buy/build a new comp to play JK2 decently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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